Well Done Nigel Farage And Ukip - The Plebs Have Spoken

[Esmond Million's Bung]

You surely don't want to go like for like with the Labour, Conservative and Lib Dem corrupt hypocrites do you?

You seem to be confusing individuals with the party policies. There's bound to be a few that are not fit to be in that position, they are relatively new to this and can't vouch for all. Good to see he has been outed, I bet he faces expulsion from the party, unlike the Tories and Labour who would give them Lordships.

Not at all Screech, but we know what to expect from the major parties don't we?, I am just fed up with the sound bytes for UKIP like 'refreshing', 'new breed', 'sea change' blah, blah, blah. They are just the same shit different colour nothing more and nothing less, they will be no better and without the screening process probably far worse than the crap we already put up with.

and with dicks like this guy even the tory press and nazi hunters won't have to much detective work, it'll get worse, I did warn you, fielding a rag tag bag of not properly screened candidates does not a credible alternative make IMO.

[Mr Mosquito]

the UKIP reminds me alot like the Nazi party tbh (the fact most of them are racist facists helps

It's time to stop invoking Hitler and the Nazis in arguments about our membership of the European Union 4th Reich. Any resemblance between Hitler and known warmonger and lawyer liar Tony Blair is purely coincidental.........

[Mr Mosquito]

Breaking news, the Tories have just announced the following ........

A

BILL TO

Make provision for the holding of a referendum in the United Kingdom on the United Kingdom’s continued membership of the

European Union.

Be it enacted by the Queen’s most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal,

and Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows:-

DRAFT European Union (Referendum) Bill

1. Referendum on the United Kingdom’s continued membership of the European Union

(1) A referendum is to be held on the United Kingdom’s continued membership of the European Union.

(2) The referendum must be held before 31 December 2017.

(3) The Secretary of State shall by order appoint the day on which the referendum is to be held.

(4) An order under this section may not be made unless a draft of the order has been laid before, and approved

by a resolution of, each House of Parliament.

(5) The question that is to appear on the ballot papers is—

“Do you think that the United Kingdom should remain a member of the European Union?”

(6) In Wales, a Welsh version of the question is also to appear on the ballot papers, as provided by order.

2. Entitlement to vote in the referendum

(1) Those entitled to vote in the referendum are—

(a) the persons who, on the date of the referendum, would be entitled to vote as electors at a

parliamentary election in any constituency, and

(b) the persons who, on that date, are disqualified by reason of being peers from voting as electors at

parliamentary elections.

3. Conduct of the referendum and further provisions

(1) The Secretary of State shall by order provide for the rules in accordance with which the referendum is to

be conducted.

(2) The Secretary of State may by order make further provisions about the referendum.

(3) An order under this section may make provision modifying or amending this Act or another enactment.

(4) An order under this section may not be made unless a draft of the order has been laid before, and approved

by a resolution of, each House of Parliament.

4. Interpretation

(1) In this Act—

• “enactment” includes—

(a) any provision of an Act,

(b) any provision of, or of any instrument made under, an Act of the Scottish Parliament,

© any provision of, or of any instrument made under, Northern Ireland legislation, and

(d) any provision of subordinate legislation (within the meaning of the Interpretation Act 1978);

• “the referendum” means the referendum under section 1.

5. Expenditure

(1) There shall be paid out of money provided by Parliament-

(a) Any expenditure of the Secretary of State in consequence of this Act; and

(b) Any increase attributable to this Act in the sums which under any other Act are payable out of

money so provided.

6. Short title

(1) This Act may be cited as the European Union (Referendum) Act 2013.

Promoted & printed by Alan Mabbutt on behalf of the Conservative Party, both of 30 Millbank, London SW1P 4DP

[marshy]

the UKIP reminds me alot like the Nazi party tbh (the fact most of them are racist facists helps

I think it's worth pointing out that Nazi stands for 'National Socialism' and that all of the people I know that voted for UKIP did so because of the 'I' in UKIP which stands for 'Independence' from the European federalist superstate and wish to return to the sovereignty of our own Parliament. Given the turmoil in the Tory ranks since the local elections with Cameron being blown about like a leaf in the storm no-one can now say that a vote for UKIP makes no difference.

[screech]

Not at all Screech, but we know what to expect from the major parties don't we?, I am just fed up with the sound bytes for UKIP like 'refreshing', 'new breed', 'sea change' blah, blah, blah. They are just the same shit different colour nothing more and nothing less, they will be no better and without the screening process probably far worse than the crap we already put up with.

and with dicks like this guy even the tory press and nazi hunters won't have to much detective work, it'll get worse, I did warn you, fielding a rag tag bag of not properly screened candidates does not a credible alternative make IMO.

I agree with you, they are all the same no matter who gets in. I haven't voted for any of them bar Blair first time around, what a mistake I made there. Vowed after that I wouldn't vote again. I suppose the only reason I kind of stand up for UKIP a little is because Farage is an excellent communicator with a clear strategy, a far cry from Cameron, Clegg or that odious tw.t Millipede.

Had my local MP Mark Harper on my doorstep recently wanting a vote for his Tory colleague, he obviously didn't remember our last encounter at my door, suffice to say, the Labour candidate did remember.

[Mr Mosquito]

I think it's worth pointing out that Nazi stands for 'National Socialism' and that all of the people I know that voted for UKIP did so because of the 'I' in UKIP which stands for 'Independence' from the European federalist superstate and wish to return to the sovereignty of our own Parliament. Given the turmoil in the Tory ranks since the local elections with Cameron being blown about like a leaf in the storm no-one can now say that a vote for UKIP makes no difference.

Indeed, there is now turmoil in the Tory ranks and it's the massive increase in the popularity of UKIP that has caused it. The truth is that we could be out of the hopelessly corrupt and criminal led European Union project next month if the Tories repealed their 1972 European Communities Act. No need for any referendum on EU membership because the Tories - as the main party of government - could take us out of the EU next week if they really wanted to.

[Barrs Court Red]

Its another reason why I just wouldnt vote tory. Too many backbench no bodies willing to disrupt the party in the pursuit of some hearty bsckslapping down the local conservative club.

The only thing that can save us grom the political class is an army coup'. They could cull the whole lot shortly after, and we could start again.

[Eco]

Its another reason why I just wouldnt vote tory. Too many backbench no bodies willing to disrupt the party in the pursuit of some hearty bsckslapping down the local conservative club.

The only thing that can save us grom the political class is an army coup'. They could cull the whole lot shortly after, and we could start again.

That's strange, always had you down as a Tory !

[Barrs Court Red]

That's strange, always had you down as a Tory !

Yeah I wont lie you wouldnt be the first to think that, And I do agree with many of their policies (in broad terms), but the party itself is out of touch and extremely self serving. To me that is not the traits you want in government.

Maybe one day I'll write a manifest o gor a laugh, you might be surprised by its content!

[Esmond Million's Bung]

it would appear the plebs in Scotland have spoken as well.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/nigel-farage-in-bid-to-woo-scots-voters.2013058317

[marshy]

it would appear the plebs in Scotland have spoken as well.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/nigel-farage-in-bid-to-woo-scots-voters.2013058317

When you read the article it seems like, once again, Farage is the only one talking sense. Understandable that the thought of equal rights to healthcare, education, and public services doesn't go down too well north of the border.

[Barrs Court Red]

UKIP are now at 19% in the polls.

The scarey thought is they might be invited to form part of a coalition government

[bucksred]

Indeed, those Southern European countries are now in deep trouble due to their membership of the European Union project and it's Euro currency area. Greece is now governed - not by a democratically elected governement - but by EU installed technocrats. Cyprus - a rich and stable island when under the Cypriot £ - is now in terrible difficulty due to it's membership of the Frankfurt based €Euro currency area. Spain and Portugal now have record unemployment because - like Britain - they can't trade with their former colonies how they used to because of EU interference in free trade.

Those countries are now subjugated by unelected despots of the EU Commission. The same fate awaits Britain if we don't get out of the EU. I'd rather have our own people in Westminster that I can vote out running this country rather than the unelected despots of Brussels. UKIP all the way for me, let's get our country back from the clutches of Brussels and it's enemy alien EU Head Quarters.

Gobster those countries have lived beyond their means for years, the EU allowed them to paper over the cracks. Well its all come home to roost. Every single developed economy now carries huge debt. If any of us run our own financial affairs like our elected representitives we'd all be in jail.

Every time we get a left of centre party they tax the rich and social spending explodes. Everytime you get a right of centre government, they cut social spending and cut taxes. None of them EVER attempt to live within their means, and every single one of them have their sacred cows which they wont cut, with the result that debt successively explodes, and the corruption seemingly endemic in the Meditterranean area, just makes things 10 times worse. France & Belgium will be next. Slovenija is a former communist era economy and its wont be a surprise any of them go tits up, the last will be Poland, Czech Republic, Estonia and Latvia. The Germans have already taken the hard unpopular decisions over their economy cos of the state of the former East German economy.

Add the utterly divorced from reality unelected EU Apparachniks to this and the whole of Europe wil blow apart. Followed by the US who under Obama are rackin up even bigger levels of debt.

We all need to understand that the days of the State providing everything are coming to an end...

[bucksred]

Nigel Farage was not educated at Eton. I idolize Nigel Farage because he's made some quite brilliant speeches in the vipers' nest that is the EU parliament. To me, Nigel Farage is a true national hero for standing up against the tyranny of the EU.

Gobbers, you dont wanna trust this ***** anymore than any of the others my friend. His party won 5 seats on Bucks county Council on an anti HS2 ticket. Well quite a few of did some research, and you wont be surprised to know that UKIP are in favour of HS2, just like the three main parties and Greens. However during the election campaign they strangely didnt have any copies of their official manifesto..and had amneisia when asked exactly that. My point is UKIP are no more honest than the rest, they are less pompous, AT THE MOMENT, but they aint had to govern anywheres yet. A large number of voters used them as a protest vote (Certainly everywhere along the HS2 routes they did)

These five councillors will I suspect go when the next election is on. Well at least three anyways, including the ward I live in, cos at least 50% of the voters wanted to give the Government a bloody nose cos of the waste of money HS2. Tory came third behind UKIP, an independant (Ex Tory who resigned over HS2 about 150 votes behind), the Liberal Democrat came sixth behind the Greens, another independant, and Liebour (Who have never got more than 200 votes EVER!)on a two figure vote...

One thing I will say though. Why does everyone say UKIP are a racists party??? They have some dubious candidates, without doubt, but seriously the supporters and most candidates are very far from it. The Left, liberal people and Euro nuts really need to moderate their language. Just because they aint in favour of what you want does not make them any less a valid party.

And no, I didnt vote UKIP. I dont really agree with them anymore. They got valid points, and views. I just think its too late to leave now..Farage is certasinly less of a pompous ass than Cameron, Clegg and Nobhead Millidunce...

[Calculus]

UKIP are now at 19% in the polls.

The scarey thought is they might be invited to form part of a coalition government

By who though? A deal with Lab or Lib Dem seems totally out of the question and the Tories would be mad to offer anything.

My prediction is that UKIP will do well enough at the next Euro elections to force everyone into committing to a yes/no referendum after which they'll die a death whatever the result.

[Barrs Court Red]

Fingers crossed. Ive heard some disturbing things.

[CiderHider]

My town is overrun with Eastern Europeens, and I mean OVERRUN! If I walk down the street I see them getting drunk, getting pregnant, using our schools and Doctors without offering anything in return, this feels entirely wrong in the pit of my stomach. They drop thei kids off at school at 5am when they goto work, they are half starved and a lot of them with serious behavioral problems and the teachers have to sort it out. My sister is a teacher and she spends half her time on distuptive foreign kids who muck it up for the Brits, our own kids are suffering, our NHS is suffering, socially we are suffering

They dont pay tax,and what little they may pay is insignificant to what they take, and its not about money, its about the social changes they are bringing about, Jesus we are an Island, we dont need or can afford this shit, we have no resources and they will bleed our generosity dry then piss off again, ******* parasites.

they dont pay TV license, they dont integrate they are here for they own gets because for some reason we aloud it to happen, and now we have to remove them...all.... which is totally not possible, so the referendum will be bullshit, nothgin will change unless we force it.

So say we get out of the EU, how the FORK are we gonna enforce the changes? Go house to house handcuffing them and sending them back? Including the Irish? HAhahahah, too funny, it will never happen, they will envoke all kinds of laws and human rights shit to stay

The NHS has become the IHS free for Africans and Polish, Asians to visit and get well without paying, this is a joke. ******* close the borders before its too late.

[Monkeh]

UKIP are now at 19% in the polls.

The scarey thought is they might be invited to form part of a coalition government

labour are at 40% in the polls so would have an outright majority

[CiderHider]

Quick question, say we get our reffy and vote ourselves out of EU, what will happen to the Europeens in England?

Can I suggest myself to remove them by force, i'll do it for free and with pleasure too.

This is the problem and why any reffy vote will be full of shit.

MAKE SURE THE REFFY INCLUDES THE REMOVAL BY FORCE IF NECESSARY OF ALL NON BRITISH FROM THESE SHORES!

Haha, like that will happen..., we cant even boot out a known terrorist, how we gonna boot out ******* Irish and Polish?

So, i hope UKIP will make this happen, if not then I will vote for a party strong enough to do this.

**** you liberal labour *******, this is your fault we are having to take this stance here, if you had the balls to fight for our rights when you signed up for this shit we would not be in this mess.

I want Blair's cabinet to stand trial for their crimes, in a matter of a few years they have destroyed this great country.

\If no party can rectify the problems, then its time we, the people of England removed the government, parliament and its MP's

Our corrupt government is so quick to help Syria overthrow it government and others in the middle East, what right did they have?

Maybe I'll ask help from certain states to help remove our government in time, maybe we do need help, maybe its up to us to bring about change and stop this country becoming an even bigger joke than it is.

[Eco]

Quick question, say we get our reffy and vote ourselves out of EU, what will happen to the Europeens in England?

Can I suggest myself to remove them by force, i'll do it for free and with pleasure too.

This is the problem and why any reffy vote will be full of shit.

MAKE SURE THE REFFY INCLUDES THE REMOVAL BY FORCE IF NECESSARY OF ALL NON BRITISH FROM THESE SHORES!

Haha, like that will happen..., we cant even boot out a known terrorist, how we gonna boot out ******* Irish and Polish?

So, i hope UKIP will make this happen, if not then I will vote for a party strong enough to do this.

**** you liberal labour *******, this is your fault we are having to take this stance here, if you had the balls to fight for our rights when you signed up for this shit we would not be in this mess.

I want Blair's cabinet to stand trial for their crimes, in a matter of a few years they have destroyed this great country.

\If no party can rectify the problems, then its time we, the people of England removed the government, parliament and its MP's

Our corrupt government is so quick to help Syria overthrow it government and others in the middle East, what right did they have?

Maybe I'll ask help from certain states to help remove our government in time, maybe we do need help, maybe its up to us to bring about change and stop this country becoming an even bigger joke than it is.

If we kick out all the Europeans living here there might be some fallout from EU countries where the English are currently residing.

[CiderHider]

If we kick out all the Europeans living here there might be some fallout from EU countries where the English are currently residing.

English people working in EU would just need to apply for a work permit the same as Irish and Polish here.

We need skilled people, and they should be welcomed, but what we dont need are low skilled workers displacing young people trying to get their first job.

I see so much problem in my Town, all the factory's are Polish, all the Job agents are Polish and they only employ Polish.

Its worth noting this is England, not Poland, we are not obliged to look after them and fund their alcoholism

[Stephen Lewis]

Well, as you're in France - as per your reply No. 16 above - Britain under a UKIP administration and leaving the EU may make life a little difficult for you in France. Hence, you're levelling of the classic Cultural Marxist German Frankfurt School 'RACIST' tag at UKIP.

.......and you still haven't given a straight answer as to who you'd vote for were you living in Britain.

Is it no longer a secret ballot in the UK then?

[Aizoon]

The real truth is when UKIPs rag bag far right/racist backgrounds are exposed, it will say more about the people who will still vote for them than the party itself.

You're probably right, but who else can an anti-EU person vote for? Politicians of all three major parties see the EU gravy train as their retirement fund. They won't derail it...

[Gazred]

Quick question, say we get our reffy and vote ourselves out of EU, what will happen to the Europeens in England?

Can I suggest myself to remove them by force, i'll do it for free and with pleasure too.

This is the problem and why any reffy vote will be full of shit.

MAKE SURE THE REFFY INCLUDES THE REMOVAL BY FORCE IF NECESSARY OF ALL NON BRITISH FROM THESE SHORES!

Haha, like that will happen..., we cant even boot out a known terrorist, how we gonna boot out ******* Irish and Polish?

So, i hope UKIP will make this happen, if not then I will vote for a party strong enough to do this.

**** you liberal labour *******, this is your fault we are having to take this stance here, if you had the balls to fight for our rights when you signed up for this shit we would not be in this mess.

I want Blair's cabinet to stand trial for their crimes, in a matter of a few years they have destroyed this great country.

\If no party can rectify the problems, then its time we, the people of England removed the government, parliament and its MP's

Our corrupt government is so quick to help Syria overthrow it government and others in the middle East, what right did they have?

Maybe I'll ask help from certain states to help remove our government in time, maybe we do need help, maybe its up to us to bring about change and stop this country becoming an even bigger joke than it is.

Without mentioning which nation she is from, my wife is not British and my son only half.....will you be coming to try and remove them along with everybody else?

[Portland Bill]

Quick question, say we get our reffy and vote ourselves out of EU, what will happen to the Europeens in England?

Can I suggest myself to remove them by force, i'll do it for free and with pleasure too.

This is the problem and why any reffy vote will be full of shit.

MAKE SURE THE REFFY INCLUDES THE REMOVAL BY FORCE IF NECESSARY OF ALL NON BRITISH FROM THESE SHORES!

Haha, like that will happen..., we cant even boot out a known terrorist, how we gonna boot out ******* Irish and Polish?

So, i hope UKIP will make this happen, if not then I will vote for a party strong enough to do this.

**** you liberal labour *******, this is your fault we are having to take this stance here, if you had the balls to fight for our rights when you signed up for this shit we would not be in this mess.

I want Blair's cabinet to stand trial for their crimes, in a matter of a few years they have destroyed this great country.

\If no party can rectify the problems, then its time we, the people of England removed the government, parliament and its MP's

Our corrupt government is so quick to help Syria overthrow it government and others in the middle East, what right did they have?

Maybe I'll ask help from certain states to help remove our government in time, maybe we do need help, maybe its up to us to bring about change and stop this country becoming an even bigger joke than it is.

Nigel Farage is married to a German.....................

[marshy]

Nigel Farage is married to a German.....................

I wonder if he'd met her before she was allowed in to the country, or was it an arranged marriage ?

[Esmond Million's Bung]

Congratulations on this one Nige, at least we all know now you are a proper politician, HYPOCRITE.

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/06/watch-nigel-farage-denounces-tax-avoidance-speech-last-month

[Paddy31]

The term 'RACIST' is from the German Frankfurt School of political thought. It is often used when a 'politically correct' middle class and WHITE Cultural Marxist is losing a political argument. Thus anyone opposing Britain's membership of the Cultural Marxist led European Union project is now labelled as 'RACIST'.

The Frankfurt School again?

And you are incorrect here. The term racist was first used in 1932 (racism in 1936) and is derived from the French word racisme. It was used to describe Nazi theories and replaced the words racialist and racialism which were used since the 1870's.

[Paddy31]

It's the common denominator between Nick Clegg, David Cameron and Ed Miliband - they're all Oxford University educated. It would be interesting to know which Oxford University lecturer/ professor has brainwashed/ programmed their minds into their total obedience to the European Union project. Tony Blair was also Oxford University educated. A whole political leadership class educated at the same University !!!!

And Farage was educated at Dulwich college.

Dulwich college is an independent school, which charges up to £11396 per term (over £33000 per year). Other Old Alleynians include Peter Lilley, Chris Mole, David Ford and John Spellar (all current MPs).

Farage is as much part of the 'educated elite' as any one. Just because he didn't get an offer from Oxford we shouldn't exclude him from the group.

And did you notice the story about his off-shore tax 'mistake'?

[Red-Robbo]

I can't think he'd be much good in charge of the country's finances now. Sets up a trust fund and apparently makes no money out of it and despite the fact that it is in a tax haven he hadn't even noticed the financial advantages of doing so! No wonder his career at a city bank ended!