eric04 Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Be interested to know the length of the contract offered to Tangs. In Carey's case it'll be a year. Heaton will be the 1 year clause he has the option of taking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Not at all convinced that either Heaton or Nyatanga will necessarily accept their offers. Lot of talk on the Burnley forum yesterday about them coming in for Heaton now that Jensen has been released and Grant has gone back to Derby. I wouldn't be staggered to see the likes of Barnsley, Huddersfield or Doncaster offer Nyatanaga a deal, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 My gut feeling, and it nothing more than a guess, would be that both Heaton and Nyatanga attract interest from Championship clubs and therefore won't accept their offers from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammyOne Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Good news. The 3 best players worth keeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 I don't think we should be keeping Nyatanga or Carey to be honest. If we can't find better than either (considering Carey's likely to play about a dozen games) for what we're going to be paying them we need to improve the scouting drastically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC101 Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 I'm happy with Nyatanga being offered a new contract. With some good coaching from So'D he can be a strong point in our team next season. Heaton I'm very happy with, very good keeper to have in League One, and I wrote about Carey in the other thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Glad to have Heaton and Carey. Tangs has been much improved as well under SOD so I think the club have made the right decision. oh deary me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammyOne Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 My gut feeling, and it nothing more than a guess, would be that both Heaton and Nyatanga attract interest from Championship clubs and therefore won't accept their offers from us. Nyatanga yes; Heaton, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Glad to have Heaton and Carey. Tangs has been much improved as well under SOD so I think the club have made the right decision. Yeah the 7 goals we shipped in the last 2 games, is evidence of that improvement, whatever next he might even be good enough to play international football perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC101 Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Yeah the 7 goals we shipped in the last 2 games, is evidence of that improvement, whatever next he might even be good enough to play international football perhaps. He already does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 He already does. Woosh (the sound of one of Nyatanga's telling defence splitting passes). Still one successful bit of turd polishing accomplished, just Foster, Fontaine, Killkenny, Pearson, Wilson..................................................to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timothy bird Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Anybody who is not going to renew their season ticket because a player they don't like has been offered a new contract. Good by. Thanks for your fantastic support. Don't slam the door while your having your tantrum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammyOne Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Anybody who is not going to renew their season ticket because a player they don't like has been offered a new contract. Good by. Thanks for your fantastic support. Don't slam the door while your having your tantrum! What happens if you have a tantrum but there isn't a door to slam nearby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Anybody who is not going to renew their season ticket because a player they don't like has been offered a new contract. Good by. Thanks for your fantastic support. Don't slam the door while your having your tantrum! Whatever are you talking about?, I am yet to see ONE post stating what you are inferring, if there is such a post show us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 So this is what I can see happening... Heaton will move on the eve of the new season leaving us high and dry as we will only have a 16 year old kid as back up. Nyatangle will hoof everything and panic consistantly, at least he is consistant. we will struggle to sign a partner for him as no one will want to be lumbered. Carey will have a BBQ and play around 3 games this season before coaching the under 7's part time and job sharing with Kitman Scotty. Kilkenny will stand and point and constantly adjust his captains armband. Season ticket anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Fontaine will find god, with one of his passes, Foster will go on a run down the wing, and never be seen again and Pearson is strawberry blonde OK and Wilson and Nyatanga will become Wales new central defensive pairing. Taylor will score in a brothel and SOD will buy a laser pen to play when Killkenny is injured or suspended or when substituting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timothy bird Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Esmond. Several people on different threads have said they will not renew their season cards because carey has been given a new contract! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timothy bird Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Actually I think theirs a post just above by red m. Who is saying something very similar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Esmond. Several people on different threads have said they will not renew their season cards because carey has been given a new contract! Have you ever heard the saying 'the straw that broke the camel's back'?, I would say 4 years of misery, 41 miserable points, 84 goals conceded, 44 at home during 11 home defeats, a humiliating, gutless and almost certainly unnecessary relegation and the only thing to cheer us up during the summer was the thought of at last a good clear out of dross and less than half fit players and BCFC couldn't even deliver on that, I suspect add all that together + stuff i've probably over looked in my haste and Carey for some, Nyatanga for others might just be that straw, just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Actually I think theirs a post just above by red m. Who is saying something very similar! There is a post by me yes, but I have not implied either way my intentions regarding renewing my season ticket. Maybe you have assumed, and we all know where that gets people. As you are interested, as far as I'm concerned I want the club to tempt me and they have to up their game quite a lot as Nyatangle or kilkenny have never done it for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Another season following the super reds then. Love is a funny thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 There is a post by me yes, but I have not implied either way my intentions regarding renewing my season ticket. Maybe you have assumed, and we all know where that gets people. As you are interested, as far as I'm concerned I want the club to tempt me and they have to up their game quite a lot as Nyatangle or kilkenny have never done it for me! Watch your tone M, next you'll be suggesting Skuse isn't a midfield general of the premiership ilk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timothy bird Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Bye then keyboard supporters. See you back down the gate when all eleven players meet with your approval! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Can't believe how much fuss is being made about 2 players. Nyatanga in particular may not even sign, didn't he hint that he hoped to stay in the Championship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorset_Cider Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 I'd be astonished if Heaton signed another contract. He's top end of Championship quality, maybe better than that. Depends on if he likes it here and we all know money is not the B'all and end All. Though some talk as if it it is........ we are all not totally driven by money......... I know I'd like more but it is not the only thing in life I have enough from my employment to see the bigger long term view and my employment has meant over 15 years of money and security So yes I could have jumped ship but the ship I'm on is still sailing and likely to for many years. Just money is not the only consideration! Hands up who feels the same...... there are always other considerations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Have you ever heard the saying 'the straw that broke the camel's back'?, I would say 4 years of misery, 41 miserable points, 84 goals conceded, 44 at home during 11 home defeats, a humiliating, gutless and almost certainly unnecessary relegation and the only thing to cheer us up during the summer was the thought of at last a good clear out of dross and less than half fit players and BCFC couldn't even deliver on that, I suspect add all that together + stuff i've probably over looked in my haste and Carey for some, Nyatanga for others might just be that straw, just a thought. If u read the posts most want Carey to go and tanga to stay Also the last game we shipped 4 he played at lb and it was the mistakes by Carey (apparently) that led to 3 of those goals But don't let facts get in the way of your rant I know it's hard for you to see his vast improvement from your arm chair in France but the fans who go to Ashton gate on a Saturday have and are happy with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 I know it's hard for you to see his vast improvement from your arm chair in France but the fans who go to Ashton gate on a Saturday have and are happy with it But what caused the vast improvement? Is it coaching? Was it the fact that his contract was expiring and he was no longer in a comfort zone and thought I'd better up my game if I want to stay in the Championship or be offered a renewal here? How do we know the upturn in form will continue? Frankly I judge Nyatanga on what he has produced over the course of his four years here and looking at those as a whole he has been poor, perhaps very poor. For that, and possible cynicism over the upturn in form I would not think twice about offering him a contract but instead wish him well at his next club. As I have said before if we offer him say £3k per week for 2 years with add-ons, by the time you add on employment costs (insurance, employment taxes, and all other items players will be provided with) we are very easily talking about a £500k+ commitment. In my opinion an upturn in form since Christmas is not enough to warrant that gamble and I thought smacks of us continuing to place misguided faith in players - something Lansdown himself said the club was guilty of and would not do again. Again looking at Nyatanga's performance over the whole of his contract would anyone have said he was a top League One player? Maybe over the past 10 games or so his performances on average would have been higher League One but in the other 90 (largely) I wouldn't have said he was a player that would take League One by storm. That is why I want him gone. I want the club to do as Lansdown said it would and stop being overly loyal to players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 If u read the posts most want Carey to go and tanga to stay Also the last game we shipped 4 he played at lb and it was the mistakes by Carey (apparently) that led to 3 of those goals But don't let facts get in the way of your rant I know it's hard for you to see his vast improvement from your arm chair in France but the fans who go to Ashton gate on a Saturday have and are happy with it OK as everybody knows you are totally incapable of having a discussion without the insults, but I won't sink to your level and try to carry a sensible discussion, don't you find it funny that the Nyatanga love in has started pretty much since SOD said he wanted him to stay?, take a look back in the weeks leading up to SOD's announcement and he was close to the top of virtually everybody's list of thank god his contract expires. it looks like Carey, Fontaine and possibly Nyatanga will all still be here next season, so the probability that they will all play together at stages during the season is high, you have been warned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedminster Born And Red Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 If people don't want to renew their season tickets then that is their perogative obviously. Football is not cheap and expendable income is in short supply for many people. And the entertainment at Ashton Gate has been poor since GJ's second season Managing us in the Championship. Basically we have been treading water and having to play a cautious style of football simply to stay in the Championship. I do find it bizarre, though, that some who can afford to go to football will not renew their season ticket and spend Saturday afternoons at shopping mall's with the missus simply because Player A or Player B has been retained. My thinking is that at least the club are trying to move in the right direction and implement some sort of structure in place in the Academy and Scouting areas albeit that takes time to produce results. The DOF appointment is the right move for the club albeit, again, we can't judge whether Burt is a success or not for a while. But who else would a club of our stature get? Redknapp? Or persuade Fergie to forego a place on the Man Utd Board? My take on the retained player situation is that SOD is the Manager, he's got his opinion on players which may differ slightly to mine if the truth be told but nevertheless he does have a reasonable track record at League 1 Level for sure, is better qualified than me or anyone else on this board to judge a player if I am being honest and therefore I cannot see any reason to throw my toys out of the pram and not renew my season ticket. I know the above probably sounds a bit too happy clappy for some but my advice to you is if you don't want to renew your season ticket then no problem - that is your right and I respect that. Just don't tell us five hundred times ad nauseum in your repeated rants between now and August!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 If people don't want to renew their season tickets then that is their perogative obviously. Football is not cheap and expendable income is in short supply for many people. And the entertainment at Ashton Gate has been poor since GJ's second season Managing us in the Championship. Basically we have been treading water and having to play a cautious style of football simply to stay in the Championship. I do find it bizarre, though, that some who can afford to go to football will not renew their season ticket and spend Saturday afternoons at shopping mall's with the missus simply because Player A or Player B has been retained. My thinking is that at least the club are trying to move in the right direction and implement some sort of structure in place in the Academy and Scouting areas albeit that takes time to produce results. The DOF appointment is the right move for the club albeit, again, we can't judge whether Burt is a success or not for a while. But who else would a club of our stature get? Redknapp? Or persuade Fergie to forego a place on the Man Utd Board? My take on the retained player situation is that SOD is the Manager, he's got his opinion on players which may differ slightly to mine if the truth be told but nevertheless he does have a reasonable track record at League 1 Level for sure, is better qualified than me or anyone else on this board to judge a player if I am being honest and therefore I cannot see any reason to throw my toys out of the pram and not renew my season ticket. I know the above probably sounds a bit too happy clappy for some but my advice to you is if you don't want to renew your season ticket then no problem - that is your right and I respect that. Just don't tell us five hundred times ad nauseum in your repeated rants between now and August!! Once more on OTIB I get the distinct odour of hysteria. I for one have not seen any postings advising people not to renew their season tickets, just one little bird suggesting that he has seen postings suggesting this, but then couldn't substantiate his claim, I have seen individuals stating they either will, will not or are undecided and that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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