timothy bird Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 I think we did pay about the same for both players. But we virtually gave pitman away. + signd davies who we didn't need.-ive nothing against davies btw just don't think he's substantially if at all better than pitman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 I think we did pay about the same for both players. But we virtually gave pitman away. + signd davies who we didn't need.-ive nothing against davies btw just don't think he's substantially if at all better than pitman. If we didn't sell pitman he would of walked out for free last week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 There is a difference between being lazy and having the intelligence to know when to make runs, instead of wasting energy chasing lost causes (which the majority of City fans will love you for). This is true. For some reason City fans love players who chase things around but when you get a player who is a little bit lazy but with proven quality, like Davies, then they turn on him. You need a mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timothy bird Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Possibly he may have walked out last week. But we.l never know. Possibly davies will walk out next week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Possibly he may have walked out last week. But we.l never know. Possibly davies will walk out next week! Davies can't walk out he is under contract Pitman was out of contract this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timothy bird Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 And if davies goes is he more likely to go at a profit or a loss? I know which I think is the more likely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timothy bird Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Contracts mean nothing! If davies wants a move he'll get one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 If we didn't sell pitman he would of walked out for free last week Perhaps. Then again, perhaps not if he had been playing under O'Driscoll (which he may well have been). Probably worth the gamble considering the alleged pittance we got for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 SOD said he wouldn't have sold him. He understood him as a player - looked like he was lazy but was an excellent finisher. I saw him as a good reader of the game, not a headless chicken. I was gutted when he left… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timothy bird Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Always scored goals +he always will. Seems that's not enough for some people. Their was a idiot on another site saying he was a lazy fat **** who wouldn't score 10 goals in lge 1 if the chances wernt given him on a plate! ( think it was del boy using a false name ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Always scored goals +he always will. Seems that's not enough for some people. Sometimes just scoring goals ISN'T enough. I went and saw Spurs the other week and Defoe started. He was completely ineffective, in fact Spurs might as well of been playing with 10 men. No wonder successive managers have seen best to bring him off the bench. I feel similar about Pitman. Doesn't offer enough over 90 mins, but usually a threat when he came off the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_Lemon Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Having a £20 bet on him to finish top scorer when the odds come out. It's bound to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 He's a 4-4-2 striker or a number 9 as they say. If Bournemouth struggle and adopt a 4-5-1 formation he will struggle. He's a good goal scorer but he isn't a versatile forward. Just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Pitman is fine in a team near the top of the table who make lots of chances Waste of space if your near the bottom and get over run most games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Pitman is fine in a team near the top of the table who make lots of chances Waste of space if your near the bottom and get over run most games I think you have just about described every striker (with the possible exception of John Charles who was as good a centre half as he was a striker) that ever put on a jock strap, Pitman is no different, he needs the service and never got it from our shitty non productive midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 I think you have just about described every striker (with the possible exception of John Charles who was as good a centre half as he was a striker) that ever put on a jock strap, Pitman is no different, he needs the service and never got it from our shitty non productive midfield. I think he needs a forward along side him. He can't pay in a 4-51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockneyrobin Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 He will score between 15-20 goals if he plays a full season. I can't believe people have said that he only scored goals as a substitute because of tiring defences. I think the quality of some of his finishes would say otherwise.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97Red Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Brilliant finisher, amazing at free kicks, but not the quickest man alive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 I think he needs a forward along side him. He can't pay in a 4-51 indeed it's called playing to his strengths, he and every striker we had at the club for 5 years has either been ****** up by egotistic managers or given little or no chance by playing a midfield that couldn't pass water and to be fair to these strikers it is more of a testament to their quality that they have managed to score the amount that they have, than quality of supply to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 indeed it's called playing to his strengths, he and every striker we had at the club for 5 years has either been ****** up by egotistic managers or given little or no chance by playing a midfield that couldn't pass water and to be fair to these strikers it is more of a testament to their quality that they have managed to score the amount that they have, than quality of supply to them. Or just been shit like stern John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Or just been shit like stern John I was thinking more about permanent signings, pretty much all of the loaners we have had during that period were shit and DMC even made Wood look ordinary by playing him wide left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 I think you have just about described every striker (with the possible exception of John Charles who was as good a centre half as he was a striker) that ever put on a jock strap, Pitman is no different, he needs the service and never got it from our shitty non productive midfield. No There are some strikers who are worth their place in the team even if they dont score (Suarez,Aguero) Others Offer nothing if they are not scoring (Defoe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 indeed it's called playing to his strengths, he and every striker we had at the club for 5 years has either been ****** up by egotistic managers or given little or no chance by playing a midfield that couldn't pass water and to be fair to these strikers it is more of a testament to their quality that they have managed to score the amount that they have, than quality of supply to them. That's a fair call i would say. The midfield simply hasn't been strong enough for too long and when ever they played 4 in the middle we were over run. Every manager was unable to play to his strengths as the midfield was never addressed. Then came our defence becoming weaker season by season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Everybody has suddenly changed their tune? When he left, most people on here were glad to see the back of him (apart from me and Nogbad) I've always rated Brett, with the right midfield in the Bournemouth side next season he will easily be top 5 of the leading scorers in the Championship. A very, very good player. I haven't seen a striker who can finish better since I've been following City. Sometimes I wonder if it's the fans that's the cause of our ' failures ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Everybody has suddenly changed their tune? When he left, most people on here were glad to see the back of him (apart from me and Nogbad) Wrong. I constantly stated on here how much we were wasting his ability, as did many others. It was far from only two people supporting his cause, sadly a lot of people also deluded themselves into believing the stereotyped view of him being 'lazy' and offering little else, instead of actually acknowledging his various attributes. I'd say it was around a 40/60 split between those recognising his talent, and those who didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Wrong. I constantly stated on here how much we were wasting his ability, as did many others. It was far from only two people supporting his cause, sadly a lot of people also deluded themselves into believing the stereotyped view of him being 'lazy' and offering little else, instead of actually acknowledging his various attributes. I'd say it was around a 40/60 split between those recognising his talent, and those who didn't. Bags of ability. Most of the time looked like he didn't want to be playing, and much of a moaner. Still would trade him back for Davies and Baldock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Pitman is fine in a team near the top of the table who make lots of chances Waste of space if your near the bottom and get over run most games I don't agree, but at least this is a better argument than just saying 'he's lazy'. No There are some strikers who are worth their place in the team even if they dont score (Suarez,Aguero) Others Offer nothing if they are not scoring (Defoe) Suarez and Aguero more often than not do score. They are also not a fair comparison, or if they are, would you not have Defoe in our team? IMO a strikers job is to score goals. What if Liam Fontaine scored, but didn't do his job and we lost 4-1?... ...oh, wait... he doesn't do his job. And he doesn't score either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Bags of ability. Most of the time looked like he didn't want to be playing, and much of a moaner. Still would trade him back for Davies and Baldock. I would of moaned at these bunch of bottles too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaner89 Posted May 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Everybody has suddenly changed their tune? When he left, most people on here were glad to see the back of him (apart from me and Nogbad) I've always rated Brett, with the right midfield in the Bournemouth side next season he will easily be top 5 of the leading scorers in the Championship. A very, very good player. I haven't seen a striker who can finish better since I've been following City. Sometimes I wonder if it's the fans that's the cause of our ' failures ' I never wanted him to go either, which was my main reason for starting the topic really. I always felt he was our best goalscorer, and although we have a similar striker in Davies, Pitman was alway fit and never selected - Davies is always selected and never fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Everybody has suddenly changed their tune? When he left, most people on here were glad to see the back of him (apart from me and Nogbad) I've always rated Brett, with the right midfield in the Bournemouth side next season he will easily be top 5 of the leading scorers in the Championship. A very, very good player. I haven't seen a striker who can finish better since I've been following City. Sometimes I wonder if it's the fans that's the cause of our ' failures ' I never wanted him to go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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