ricardob59 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Celtic lose to Porto in UEFA Cup final and have a party. Rangers lose to Zenit St Petersburg and have a riot. I know which club I'd prefer to have visiting my City. Maybe someone should arrange an EDL march on the 12th and make a real day of it. Celtic - sometimes anti-social, but always anti-racist. Having lived in Scotland for 3 years now, I can tell you that the Green half of Scotland are certainly no angels.... If the Porto game was in Manchester I can assure you it wouldn't have been so peaceful.. Both teams have a reputation, and to site one better than the other is crazy...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardob59 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 As an Irish man who has lived in England for the last 30 odd years and a season ticket holder with BCFC for many years - I will not be attending this match. I would feel utter putrid sickness at having to listen to two sets of supporters singing 'No Surrender' and other right wing, sectarian ditties throughout a football match. Northern Irelands historical or current 'troubles' have **** all to do with Bristol City FC, it's supporters and the city of Bristol. A message to the naïve individuals whose flippant gloating in the loose belief that 'it's just a bit of banter'. I have 3 young sons who are all born in England, love football, support the nation they were born in (even when the old man is draped in green), but I will not take them to a match where their fellow countrymen suggest that to be 'English' you should come out with half crap mentioned in this thread. I respect those Rangers fans who support their team without the need to refer to religion, sectarianism, dislike of anything Irish and are just proud Scots. I hope they have a good time in Bristol, but enjoy a crushing defeat to Bristol City. Grebes, I am with you 100%. IF City fans decide (in the majority) that an allegiance with the Gers is what they want then this season ticket holder since the 70's is gone! AFAIK BCFC is not and has never been a sectarian club with any allegiance either way and long may it continue. My old man is from Derry, from Magherafelt and a season ticket holder since he came over in the 50's to get away from the issues and to bring myself and my siblings up without religious vitriol ( thanks dad) so I don't want to see OUR club showing allegiance to either side, it's (as you said) nothing to do with us. It's comments like this that promote the worst side of the sectarianism.. Yes it happens.. I know dealing with it day to day up here.. But this is a football match, go support your team in the normal way and enjoy the football... These comments just show how some folk see what they want and bring it to a forum.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Celtic lose to Porto in UEFA Cup final and have a party. Rangers lose to Zenit St Petersburg and have a riot. I know which club I'd prefer to have visiting my City. Maybe someone should arrange an EDL march on the 12th and make a real day of it.Celtic - sometimes anti-social, but always anti-racist. Sorry, but you are wrong with that. The clip below goes back 25 years admittedly, but you cannot claim that the fans at Parkhead have ALWAYS been anti racist. Rangers first black player, a very skilful and talented winger by the name of Mark Walters got horrific abuse at Parkhead, you can hear monkey chants and booing every time he gets the ball. The number of bananas on the pitch is just sickening. There were a lot more than those shown in this clip, as well. Walters got this at all away grounds, but Parkhead was always the worst. www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWYpmF1j288 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snufflelufagus Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Really well timed when we're still trying to get permission for Ashton Vale. A few thousand p1ssed-up sectarian Jocks should go down really well with the dog-walkers and their friends in high places. Seeing as it looks like being a village green it should be advertised as such. All our nice friends from Scotland are welcome to pitch tents here on the Friday night. Seeing as its an early kick-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Monk Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 It's a Pre-season friendly guys, hardly a high stake game against the matalan Catalan. Most rangers fans, and Celtic fans for that, don't care whatsoever about religion (1% of OF fans religious apparently) and those that sing those songs only really do so to wind up either side, nowhere near as hostile as some of you think it'll be, especially for a friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leftwingfullback Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Celtic lose to Porto in UEFA Cup final and have a party. Rangers lose to Zenit St Petersburg and have a riot. I know which club I'd prefer to have visiting my City. Maybe someone should arrange an EDL march on the 12th and make a real day of it. Celtic - sometimes anti-social, but always anti-racist. It's obvious you hold Celtic close to your heart, but you need to see that both Celtic and rangers are bad. It's like trying to say, bristol city has no hooligan element at all. There is a massive list of why people dislike Celtic, for example "no bloodstained poppies on our shirts". Que the "family back in Ireland" etc etc. Isn't that the whole point though? Football shouldn't be about all this. You need to accept, that Celtic are not 100% holy and pure, like rangers fans need to do likewise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leftwingfullback Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Sorry, but you are wrong with that. The clip below goes back 25 years admittedly, but you cannot claim that the fans at Parkhead have ALWAYS been anti racist. Rangers first black player, a very skilful and talented winger by the name of Mark Walters got horrific abuse at Parkhead, you can hear monkey chants and booing every time he gets the ball. The number of bananas on the pitch is just sickening. There were a lot more than those shown in this clip, as well. Walters got this at all away grounds, but Parkhead was always the worst. www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWYpmF1j288 That is Awful, truly truly awful. Why would any human do that to someone they had never met before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Celtic - sometimes anti-social, but always anti-racist. What an absurd statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Because we don't want City supporters to show support for either sides possible allegiances? No idea what you are reading but that's all I asked for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Celtic - sometimes anti-social, but always anti-racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Think I was one of the only people that wanted Rangers and Celtic in the English leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Casual Connoisseur Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Yes that did make me chuckle!! It nearly made me vomit, utter bull 5hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 It's comments like this that promote the worst side of the sectarianism.. Yes it happens.. I know dealing with it day to day up here.. But this is a football match, go support your team in the normal way and enjoy the football... These comments just show how some folk see what they want and bring it to a forum.. Utter rubbish. Grebes and ciderups posts were both spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WBCA Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Getting A Nasty Shock-The Bradford Ointment Story. Read how a pre-season friendly between Bradford City and Glasgow Rangers turned into a day of violence with over 50 arrested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Sorry, but you are wrong with that. The clip below goes back 25 years admittedly, but you cannot claim that the fans at Parkhead have ALWAYS been anti racist. Rangers first black player, a very skilful and talented winger by the name of Mark Walters got horrific abuse at Parkhead, you can hear monkey chants and booing every time he gets the ball. The number of bananas on the pitch is just sickening. There were a lot more than those shown in this clip, as well. Walters got this at all away grounds, but Parkhead was always the worst. www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWYpmF1j288 Surely just banter???? ;-) Thought I'd get some comeback on some Celtic fans treatment of Walters. Totally out of order of course. As Grebes has said if City fans want a connection with Rangers then I won't be part of that either. I don't want an City association with Celtic either btw. Hopefully the game will go without incident and will earn us a shed load of cash. Not from me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest i hate rovers Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Nice friendly, doubt if you'll make much money as I'd imagine Rangers fee is quite steep. Still, get a full house in and hopefully (for you lot) some of the neutrals / casuals will come back again for the league games on here again disco dan!!! you are a sad sag arent you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest willie pullar Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Getting A Nasty Shock-The Bradford Ointment Story. Read how a pre-season friendly between Bradford City and Glasgow Rangers turned into a day of violence with over 50 arrested. Been a few of The Rangers pre season games like that over the years, Sunderland , Newcastle etc where slashings/stabbings were happening . Don't think it'll happen in Bristol though with 12.30 k.o. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Having lived in Scotland for 3 years now, I can tell you that the Green half of Scotland are certainly no angels.... If the Porto game was in Manchester I can assure you it wouldn't have been so peaceful.. Both teams have a reputation, and to site one better than the other is crazy...... Spot on. 2 cheeks of the same arsehole. On their last few visits to Manchester, sections of Celtic's fanbase took it upon themselves to sing pro-IRA songs in the city centre (which of course was bombed by said organisation in 1996), which as you can imagine went down like a fart in a lift with the locals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 There won't be trouble - with any big support there's always idiots but tarring our fans with the same brush is just a generalised standard reaction suited to the media. Comparing our club with MK Dons - really? A franchise club that stole another club's identity forcing them to start up AFC Wimbledon from the very bottom of the pyramid. AFC Wimbledon didn't have to start from the bottom of the pyramid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballwinningcentrehalf Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Hate the tit for tat that comes out whenever Celtic and Rangers are mentioned, usually just by the ignorant that 'follow' one side and not actual supporters. This is a great friendly for City. Rangers will bring thousands are create a brilliant atmosphere. I don't anticipate trouble. Both sides have idiots, but also not many sides will take the numbers to away games and friendlies like them either. I've said it a few times, but I've been to a lot of Celtic games in England and I've always suffered more sectarian insults and abuse directed at the travelling fans then I've heard dished out (and of course I've heard some given out so I'm not proclaiming anyone's innocence). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Hate the tit for tat that comes out whenever Celtic and Rangers are mentioned, usually just by the ignorant that 'follow' one side and not actual supporters. This is a great friendly for City. Rangers will bring thousands are create a brilliant atmosphere. I don't anticipate trouble. Both sides have idiots, but also not many sides will take the numbers to away games and friendlies like them either. I've said it a few times, but I've been to a lot of Celtic games in England and I've always suffered more sectarian insults and abuse directed at the travelling fans then I've heard dished out (and of course I've heard some given out so I'm not proclaiming anyone's innocence). Celtic... shite. Rangers.... shite Greenock Morton.... Ace. Religion... shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hortonred Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Celtic lose to Porto in UEFA Cup final and have a party. Rangers lose to Zenit St Petersburg and have a riot. I know which club I'd prefer to have visiting my City. Maybe someone should arrange an EDL march on the 12th and make a real day of it. Celtic - sometimes anti-social, but always anti-racist. How about their hate of the English or doesn't that count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Just on the price, apparently Notts County are playing Galatasary in a friendly and are charging £12 for it. Probably because there is a better chance of not seeing Sneijder, Drogba etc but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GregRFC Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Bristol City and Scottish teams in general have always afaik had elements of trouble in the sense that both sides of the border are up for a ruck, so on those grounds then the potential is there, it's got naff all to do with media perceptions and standard reactions As for the MK Don's thing. Trying to buy a place in the SPL but then being admitted to the Scottish Lowest Division, because you were riding on the coat tails of the previous club. No, I cant see why I would make the comparison between MK Dons and yourselves. The only difference is that you've not moved away from the ground and haven't been forced to relenquish claims to the previous clubs history. I've not checked but what is 2012 company's situation with Rangers previous honours, have they been bought back, instantly giving yourself a history, despite the new club never having one? (I am fully aware of our past, we arent any different, I'm curious to know more) For starters - we are the same club, a new company does not equate to a new club as ruled by every governing body worth their salt. If it's good enough for UEFA, the SFA, FIFA, SFL, SPL, ECA then it's good enough for me. The fact is we were run into the ground by a corrupt businessman and the fans have had to suffer for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GregRFC Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 AFC Wimbledon didn't have to start from the bottom of the pyramid. They weren't a kick in the arse off it. Fact is - MK Dons STOLE Wimbledom and they shouldn't be considered as a real football club by any real fan. They are a sham with a pathetic manager, pathetic fans and a pathetic owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 How about their hate of the English or doesn't that count. There's a difference between hating someone for who they are and hating a nation for what they did. Amazes me how some people think that despite it's colonial past the whole world should still be thankful to Britain/England for 'civilising' them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 They weren't a kick in the arse off it. Fact is - MK Dons STOLE Wimbledom and they shouldn't be considered as a real football club by any real fan. They are a sham with a pathetic manager, pathetic fans and a pathetic owner. I think you'll find they were 15 leagues above the bottom of the pyramid. I agree with the rest of your post though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 There's a difference between hating someone for who they are and hating a nation for what they did. Amazes me how some people think that despite it's colonial past the whole world should still be thankful to Britain/England for 'civilising' them. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leftwingfullback Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 There's a difference between hating someone for who they are and hating a nation for what they did. Amazes me how some people think that despite it's colonial past the whole world should still be thankful to Britain/England for 'civilising' them. Again. Why hate a nation, where the current people of that nation, had absolutely nothing to do with any of it? shall we still hate Germans for the Second World War? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 They weren't a kick in the arse off it. Fact is - MK Dons STOLE Wimbledom and they shouldn't be considered as a real football club by any real fan. They are a sham with a pathetic manager, pathetic fans and a pathetic owner. The move to MK was wanted by the Wimbledon chairman, recommended by a three man independent panel and approved by the FA. Should it have happened? No. Is it reasonable to carp on about MK Dons fans/manager years later, as if they should all stay in doors out of respect to Wimbledon fans? Nonsense. The fans are the same as other football fans (in the lower leagues): local people going to support their local team. Wimbledon had been run into the ground by their owners and a lack of fans. The move to MK was a solution, albeit not a great one. A precedent was set in Scotland by the move of Meadowbank Thistle from Edinburgh to Livingston in 1995, so hardly unheard of. If people want a version of football not tainted by money (restructuring when convenient, big clubs running roughshod over smaller clubs by whisking off their talented youngster for pennies to keep the true order intact), they're unlikely to find in professional football in the UK - or indeed, within their own club. The amount of holier than thou super fans, who are allegedly all about tradition amazes me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge Batch Red Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 The move to MK was wanted by the Wimbledon chairman, recommended by a three man independent panel and approved by the FA. Should it have happened? No. Is it reasonable to carp on about MK Dons fans/manager years later, as if they should all stay in doors out of respect to Wimbledon fans? Nonsense. The fans are the same as other football fans (in the lower leagues): local people going to support their local team. Wimbledon had been run into the ground by their owners and a lack of fans. The move to MK was a solution, albeit not a great one. A precedent was set in Scotland by the move of Meadowbank Thistle from Edinburgh to Livingston in 1995, so hardly unheard of. If people want a version of football not tainted by money (restructuring when convenient, big clubs running roughshod over smaller clubs by whisking off their talented youngster for pennies to keep the true order intact), they're unlikely to find in professional football in the UK - or indeed, within their own club. The amount of holier than thou super fans, who are allegedly all about tradition amazes me. Keep your plastic crap off our forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Keep your plastic crap off our forum. Thanks for the feedback. For the avoidance of doubt, I live in Milton Keynes, but have supported City since 1974. If City win 18 - 0 (unlikely I realise) on 24th August I'll be delighted. Guess living here may give me a bit more empathy with the locals and the dazzling hypocrisy of many fans of other clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 shall we still hate Germans for the Second World War? That's up to you. That's my whole point. Celtic fans who object to things like poppies on the hoops because of Britain's involvement in Ireland is entirely up to them. You don't have to agree with it to understand. If Germany had won and been an occupying force brutalising and repressing the British civilian population for 100s of years you may feel differently. Besides I think this is more about some Celtic fans dislike for flags, songs emblems and attitudes of Britain's colonial past stands for rather than the 'English'. (Let's not forget most Scots dislike England anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Again. Why hate a nation, where the current people of that nation, had absolutely nothing to do with any of it? shall we still hate Germans for the Second World War? No, for the 1970 and 1990 World Cups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City1970 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 We attract a team from the Scottish 3rd tier for a friendly ! Can`t we attract a bigger team from the Scottish top flight ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 You what now. The same club? Really okay, because you bought the assets of the Oldco and then wanted to distance yourself from any possible ramifications that the Oldco was subjected to. er, okay clearly makes you exactly the same? As per the Guardian Basically you wanted your cake and to eat it. You've taken the Fiorentina route and bought a history for the new company whilst, wanting to be disassociated from the old companies stuff. In short you cannot be the same and have a sort of Palimpsest whereby you are writing a new history over an old one, which never existed for the new club in the first place. Aside from that, then you know it's all gravy and it's definitely 'the same' Rangers, apart from being completely not the same The Rangers at all. Yay Rangers are the same club, the company that owns the club changed and that is where all the fines should have been handed to. Since being relegated to SD3 Rangers have won numerous cases such as the big tax case and an attempt by Craig Whyte to take away even more millions from the club he pretty much single-handedly ruined. The crook has since been issued a warrant for arrest As Greg RFC posted, if UEFA, the SFA, FIFA, SFL, SPL, ECA are prepared to acknowledge the fact Rangers are the same club I'd say that's much more reliable than a report written by a journalist in a newspaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 We attract a team from the Scottish 3rd tier for a friendly ! Can`t we attract a bigger team from the Scottish top flight ? Forget the division, one of the biggest clubs in Europe, fact and I don't even like them, ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge Batch Red Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 You what now. The same club? Really okay, because you bought the assets of the Oldco and then wanted to distance yourself from any possible ramifications that the Oldco was subjected to. er, okay clearly makes you exactly the same? As per the Guardian Basically you wanted your cake and to eat it. You've taken the Fiorentina route and bought a history for the new company whilst, wanting to be disassociated from the old companies stuff. In short you cannot be the same and have a sort of Palimpsest whereby you are writing a new history over an old one, which never existed for the new club in the first place. Aside from that, then you know it's all gravy and it's definitely 'the same' Rangers, apart from being completely not the same The Rangers at all. Yay Couldn't the same charges be laid against us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Why so many Rangers/Celtic fans on here and none for Dunfermline, Dundee, Hibs etc. Glory supporting still counts even if its abroad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 We attract a team from the Scottish 3rd tier for a friendly ! Can`t we attract a bigger team from the Scottish top flight ? What like Ross County? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest willie pullar Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Remember the last time city played a team from the spl , beaten by the reserves ! Yes I know , it was the first game of pre season . Just teasing ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Remember the last time city played a team from the spl , beaten by the reserves ! Yes I know , it was the first game of pre season . Just teasing ! The last time we played a spl team we beat Kilmarnock 3-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hortonred Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 There's a difference between hating someone for who they are and hating a nation for what they did. Amazes me how some people think that despite it's colonial past the whole world should still be thankful to Britain/England for 'civilising' them. How convenient. There are different types of hate. One type is alright the other is not. As for the crap you go on to say that I think the world should be thankful to us - exactly where have I said that. I think you have an astonishingly biased, simplistic and one dimensional view of history..But i guess it is useful to justify and support your one dimensional arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 I will ask and I think the answer is no. Has our support an allegiance either way? I woud be absolutely amazed if there were any. Bristol is a big city and has a fairly big Irish community so surely the club and it's support have no allegiance? I'm not fishing BTW, just asking as I really was unaware if there were one. I'm just a City fan. FWIW, I had a very good online chat wih Dave Lloyd when Del McInnes chose his 3 tunes, one of which was 'Penny arcrade' and questioned wether OUR club should be doing it. Dave was extremely gracious and expressed the club's innocence about the song. Personally, I would rather it not be played, as a catholic, but I wouldn't be aggressive about it. I do sense a pro 'Gers attitude amomgst our support and really do want to know if there's something I wasn't aware of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDBS36 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 I will ask and I think the answer is no. Has our support an allegiance either way? I woud be absolutely amazed if there were any. Bristol is a big city and has a fairly big Irish community so surely the club and it's support have no allegiance? I'm not fishing BTW, just asking as I really was unaware if there were one. I'm just a City fan. FWIW, I had a very good online chat wih Dave Lloyd when Del McInnes chose his 3 tunes, one of which was 'Penny arcrade' and questioned wether OUR club should be doing it. Dave was extremely gracious and expressed the club's innocence about the song. Personally, I would rather it not be played, as a catholic, but I wouldn't be aggressive about it. I do sense a pro 'Gers attitude amomgst our support and really do want to know if there's something I wasn't aware of? Dont support ethier but do support Bristol City, looking forward to seeing Rangers & their fans at the Gate, but if I had to choose one or the other it would be Rangers purly due to the fact that Celtic sing anti English songs & songs in support of the IRA, where as Rangers sing God save the Queen & pro British songs (not very good reasons I know) As to this 'Penney arcade' thing, to me & most City supporters its was/is just another song, same as 'Never Walk Alone' The religion thing is another thing that never bothers me, dont remember the last time I was having a drink & checked out what religion some one was As I said can wait for this game, or any other games that means big teams coming to the gate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 How convenient. There are different types of hate. One type is alright the other is not. As for the crap you go on to say that I think the world should be thankful to us - exactly where have I said that. I think you have an astonishingly biased, simplistic and one dimensional view of history..But i guess it is useful to justify and support your one dimensional arguments. That is my point - there is no one view. Some on here expect the whole world to be thankful to England, and if they aren't they seem to have a problem with that. It isn't black and white so for some to hold a different view - like Celtic fans not wanting a poppy on the shirt - is totally up to them. I won't be going but still hope its a great day out for those that do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 I will ask and I think the answer is no. Has our support an allegiance either way? I woud be absolutely amazed if there were any. Bristol is a big city and has a fairly big Irish community so surely the club and it's support have no allegiance? I'm not fishing BTW, just asking as I really was unaware if there were one. I'm just a City fan. FWIW, I had a very good online chat wih Dave Lloyd when Del McInnes chose his 3 tunes, one of which was 'Penny arcrade' and questioned wether OUR club should be doing it. Dave was extremely gracious and expressed the club's innocence about the song. Personally, I would rather it not be played, as a catholic, but I wouldn't be aggressive about it. I do sense a pro 'Gers attitude amomgst our support and really do want to know if there's something I wasn't aware of? Just for you Tim http://www.youtube.c...h?v=OarFG86LgEg Personally i think its bloody brilliant and dont give a toss about religon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 That is my point - there is no one view. Some on here expect the whole world to be thankful to England, and if they aren't they seem to have a problem with that. It isn't black and white so for some to hold a different view - like Celtic fans not wanting a poppy on the shirt - is totally up to them. I won't be going but still hope its a great day out for those that do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalky Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Just on the price, apparently Notts County are playing Galatasary in a friendly and are charging £12 for it. Probably because there is a better chance of not seeing Sneijder, Drogba etc but still. It's 10 pound to watch us against Clevedon Town FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Class!! My thoughts mucker. Imagine 5000 Gers fans singing that in the East End. It will be superb. Reading their forums they reckon they will double that easily? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Fair comment chaps. It was an innocent question. Arn, its a decent football chant I will agree with that! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUTOR Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 This documentary shows up Rangers and Celtic for a lot of things. Hatred for the English Twisted chants Racism Violence etc etc... I will admit it's quite bias but watching this I wouldn't want either team from Glasgow and their fans attending AG even if it just is a pre-season friendly. My step father recently went to Scotland and got called an English w*nker and other such insults all over the country. The last time Rangers came to England they rioted in Manchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Its a football match. No he's right.... I was looking forward to this game but the fear of being called an English wa*ker has made me change my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest willie pullar Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 The last time we played a spl team we beat Kilmarnock 3-2. Should have said half decent spl team , not cannon fodder like killie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 No he's right.... I was looking forward to this game but the fear of being called an English wa*ker has made me change my mind. Do the Scots do it differently, then? Just asking, like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Monk Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Any of you guys know when tickets are on sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 This documentary shows up Rangers and Celtic for a lot of things. Hatred for the English Twisted chants Racism Violence etc etc... I will admit it's quite bias but watching this I wouldn't want either team from Glasgow and their fans attending AG even if it just is a pre-season friendly. My step father recently went to Scotland and got called an English w*nker and other such insults all over the country. The last time Rangers came to England they rioted in Manchester. I have been to Scotland a number of times - Glasgow, Edinburgh, West Highlands, Borders, never had any bother at all. Some of the time I have been drunk and quite loud but still not been hassled. Scots are welcoming people and I think the Rangers game should be a great friendly match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Ahem, ahem folks. We are English. We haven't done that brain-dead sectarian thing for 400 years*. Let's not get dragged into any Scottish/Irish idiocy which has nothing to do with this club. Regardless of the poor quality of Scottish football, Rangers will be an interesting friendly simply because it'll pull a decent crowd. * OK. 220 if you count from the Gordon Riots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ateyomike Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 seeing their forum they are looking forward to coming down to play us think it is more than a pre season friendly like playing the sags last season but what a catch should be an interesting day but stay away from the waterfront the night before :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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