AshtonGreat Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 1. You obviously have a problem with informed journalism. 2. Don't recall Mark Thomas doing Comic Relief 3. No 1. Informed journalism wouldn't have a bias The other two points didn't counteract my evidence I think you forgot to mention broadcasting the 'socialist' opening Olympic ceremony by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 1. You obviously have a problem with informed journalism. 2. Don't recall Mark Thomas doing Comic Relief 3. No I think you forgot to mention broadcasting the 'socialist' opening Olympic ceremony by the way. 1. Informed journalism wouldn't have a bias The other two points didn't counteract my evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 I bet you're one of those that moan about Ferguson, who couldn't be bothered to get off ones backside and vote, if you don't use a right to vote you have no right to moan about the outcome surely! You do people who worked dam hard to ensure everyone had the right to vote a disservice, shame on you. Ferguson? And I didn't moan about the outcome. That's just it...there's no point moaning because all the parties are as bad as each other and so voting won't change a thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 1. Following Thatcher's death, they showed a documentary that was completely biased against her. According to the programme, everything she did was wrong.2. Comic Relief - seven hours of left-wing comedy and social mores that could hardly be described as right wing 3. Have you watched EastEnders lately? This whole thread is probably the most depressing I've ever read on here. If I wasn't an atheist I'd say "god help us". In particular point 2 of the above post. Concerning point 1, did the poster miss the 'state funeral' and the accompanying establishment/media fawning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 This whole thread is probably the most depressing I've ever read on here. If I wasn't an atheist I'd say "god help us". In particular point 2 of the above post. Concerning point 1, did the poster miss the 'state funeral' and the accompanying establishment/media fawning. Sorry, I don't really understand your point. Another poster described it as ludicrous that the BBC could be considered left wing. I merely made the point that they had done things that could definitely be considered left wing and then backed it up with evidence. The media 'fawning' you mention may have been carried out by Tory newspapers but the rest of it - including the state funeral - was merely out of respect for one of the country's longest-serving PMs. Anyway I'm not getting into a political debate - I don't care that much either way. I was just responding to what the other poster said because I felt he wasn't accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 Sorry, I don't really understand your point. Another poster described it as ludicrous that the BBC could be considered left wing. I merely made the point that they had done things that could definitely be considered left wing and then backed it up with evidence. The media 'fawning' you mention may have been carried out by Tory newspapers but the rest of it - including the state funeral - was merely out of respect for one of the country's longest-serving PMs. Anyway I'm not getting into a political debate - I don't care that much either way. I was just responding to what the other poster said because I felt he wasn't accurate. Sorry, I thought you were joking describing comic relief as left wing. Mark Thomas is what would be described as a leftie comedian and he wouldn't be seen dead doing CR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 1. Following Thatcher's death, they showed a documentary that was completely biased against her. According to the programme, everything she did was wrong. And, they were 100% correct imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 This is a myth, people still flock to Paris, New York, Rome. In fact it would probably boost tourism, imagine it Buckingham Palace, this is where the parasites used to live, lets go in & have a look around and use the bog while we're at it, you are easily fooled if you think BILLIONS, don't believe all that you read! Like i said, numb nuts.. lot of them on this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 And, they were 100% correct imo. A matter of opinion, of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 A matter of opinion, of course As he said - IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedo Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 Close our borders Eject all non-British citizens (regardless of race creed colour or religion) Whoever does this gets my vote. It feels wrong to degrade myself enough to reply to someone with such a serious case of the morons but here goes... I love hearing this shit from football fans. It's normally "All foreigners out. Unless you can kick a ball, then you can stay" Idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 As he said - IMO... Yeah I know, I was just affirming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 It feels wrong to degrade myself enough to reply to someone with such a serious case of the morons but here goes... I love hearing this shit from football fans. It's normally "All foreigners out. Unless you can kick a ball, then you can stay" Idiot. Exactly "all foreigners out" then the rest of the world sends all there Brits back!! Hey presto, we have 10 million more people on our hands! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS15_RED Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 why is he an idiot? because his opinion is different to yours? I have white,black,muslim,german,scottish and English in my family so I am by noooo means racist...BUT,i firmly believe we must stem immigration to this country,full stop. not a british patron or married to one? then you get no nhs at all,we are too soft and generous for our own good... ok, rant over What a brilliant post, it'll be interesting to see how the loony lefties try to counteract it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS15_RED Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 Double post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderJar Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 What a brilliant post, it'll be interesting to see how the loony lefties try to counteract it.Can I start my approach from the loony left with two words Dariusz Dziekanowski.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheech Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 **** me lads, i thought it was controversial to shout God save the Queen in Scotland. But jeezo you lot are almost worse for getting your drawers in a twist than that ******* manky other half of glasgow. You will find most Gers fans will vote to stay in the Union but not all as not all are interested in being brittish. I would say 80-90% of our support would vote to stay. Switch to the other half of Glasgow and you'll find about 80-90% voting for independce as most believe the brits are big bad men for taking half there Ireland. They were born in Britian but u ask most of them they'll tell you there Irish because there great grand pappy was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 Sorry, I don't really understand your point. Another poster described it as ludicrous that the BBC could be considered left wing. I merely made the point that they had done things that could definitely be considered left wing and then backed it up with evidence. The media 'fawning' you mention may have been carried out by Tory newspapers but the rest of it - including the state funeral - was merely out of respect for one of the country's longest-serving PMs. Anyway I'm not getting into a political debate - I don't care that much either way. I was just responding to what the other poster said because I felt he wasn't accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 Speak up a bit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 What I would prefer is a democratically elected figurehead of our state without a family of hereditary parasites in tow, prancing around in diamond encrusted gold hats. Hang on????????? Dont we have a democratic elected figure as it is???? What is David Cameron then?? Ummm we are a democratic country. WHat is it you want? Us to be exactly like USA? A Mr. President in a uk style Whitehouse??? No thanks. The Queen is nothing more then a figurehead. Somebody that brings in a boat tonne of tourism. (especially from america) To get rid would be foolish and sad imo. But hey its a free country right? So you have the freedom to express that view of yours. Unlike other countries, you wouldnt be damned for treason etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 What a brilliant post, it'll be interesting to see how the loony lefties try to counteract it. Loony lefties???? So anyone with a different view to yours is loony. Should I call you a right wing racist?? Or would you call that a generalisation ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 I don't have a problem with a constitutional monarch - it seems to work in more than half of the 'old' EU countries. IMHO, the best argument for the monarchy is "President Thatcher". On the other hand, we don't need all the hangers-on and flunkies - Holland, Belgium, Dennmark, etc. seem to do very well without them. Chop out the wasters and I'd put up with the monarchy as the least worst solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Salisbury Red & Ashton Great, Amen my brothers amen. I have lots of friends who work in media city for the BBC one of whom used to co-produce a prominent news programme when living in London, working at BBC HQ, they most definitely have a labour slant, I'd like to say more about some financial goings on she told me about but I fear it may cause the forum some problems. Given that most prominent people at the BBC are reasonably intelligent, surely it follows that most are therefore likely to have a left-wing slant? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 I have to say, that's f&ck!n rich coming from a City fan. I don't see your point..........is it intentionally oblique? I put on my comment to engender debate......so it achieved my aim. I heard that an american tourist once asked a tour guide.." Why did they build Windsor Castle so close to Londons main airport"??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Given that most prominent people at the BBC are reasonably intelligent, surely it follows that most are therefore likely to have a left-wing slant? :-) I realise you're trying to be provocative, but no it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 The notion of cuts is propaganda trotted out by left wing press and the left wing BBC. Public spending is static instead of increasing 20% year on year as it did under Tony B Liar and Gordon the Moron. We would all be 12 to 15 percent better off had the Labour morons not plundered pensions by removing tax credits on dividends to pension funds - FTSE fell by 5% as a result and your pension contributions needed to rise by 3%. Everyone loses if the stock exchange falls, not just 'the rich'. And then they sold off half the gold reserves at cut price, pissed the money against the wall, caused a run on the pound and tied us closer to the Euro - neat. Simple, real economics but go on believing the clap trap in your left wing chip papers. If you have worked in Whitehall and studied politics as you claim in another post, you'll also know that you're being very disingenuous. The Tories haw managed to halt the usual year on year increase in public spending (they promised they were going to reduce it, but we'll ignore that for now) but taking inflation into account (no matter how low) that is a real-term cut in spending. It's also very much dependent on sector and location. If you're a local authority in the north of england for example, you've seen massive cuts in funding as a result of the move to localised business rates. This isn't a political issue for Dave and George though because that led to an increase in funding throughout most of the Tory heartlands in the Thames Valley and south east. Similarly if you're a wealthy business owner or MP (or both), your tax burden has decreased significantly and your wages have gone up, but that's paid for by cuts to public sector pensions and by taxing people for having a guest bedroom. So, yeah; if you look at very broad brush-strokes across an entire economy they've just about held it together despite not delivering most of their promises. However if you look at the effect of their policies on average working class people then there most certainly have been cuts On the royals, I dislike them but would keep them. If we got rid of them they'd still be filthy rich but the thousands of low-wage workers in London and Windsor that make a living from them wouldn't be. Having lived in America before, I can promise you that they'd be less interested in visiting us without a royal family, though I'm sure we'd still get a reasonable number of tourists to come poke around an opened-up Buckingham Palace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 This government is about restructuring and not borrowing anymore Pezo, it renounces the whole Labour ethos of borrow, borrow and borrow some more, they are also slowly trying to change the benefit set up & address the ridiculous immigration problem and strain it's put on the NHS etc. All problems caused by the war criminal and his cronies! If Labour end up at the political helm again, I'll be off. This has to be one of the biggest lies I have ever seen - this government is borrowing more year after year than any government before it like every other government has done before it, no government in the last 50 years has borrowed less than the one before it! Labour put us down this path and the Tories are following it though because the political backlash it they actually tried to address the problem would be complete and utter breakdown in society. They say they want to do stuff about immigration but can't do anything about eu migrants which is the vast majority, at the same time we have an immigration policy for the rest of the world that already ensures only skilled migrants come here. These are problems caused by the war criminal but if you think the Tories would have done anything different I believe you are mistaken - same as if you think that labour would be doing anything different now you are mistaken. We have 2.2 main party's in this country that offer differences and then do exactly the same as each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 'un' Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Divied and rule, recipe for success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk-news/2013/jul/19/there-is-now-republican-movement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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