City1970 Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 The club have gone backwards both on the pitch and off the pitch since that dreadful day. The owners and management now tell us we are in transition. The last time I saw this club in transition was when eight players ripped up their contracts and the club went on to be bottom of the football league. It was at this time when I saw real transition, we had a manager who had passion for the club and more importantly we had players who had passion for the club. Unfortunately we have neither at this moment in time. People say we have wealthy owners which is probably true, but it does not guarantee success as we are finding out with the club in massive debt. Commitment and passion from the owners, players, management and supporters will help turn our club around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 We have a businessman in charge of the club and not a football man. Throw money at it...........it doesn't work. Use plan B...........nope, ain't got one yet. How about 5 pillars.......? Yep, that sounds like a cute business catchphrase, lets try that. 5 pillocks more like (Lansdown x 2, Burt, O'Driscoll, Pemberton) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 The engine driver lost interest in a battle, and us quite frankly, and has other things to play with now, after many promises and poor decisions that has left us on the shelf. Rudderless and leaderless on and off the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 When we reached the playoff final, who were the other three teams in those play offs? Palace, Hull & Watford. Notice anything odd about the play offs in May 2013, Three of the teams were Palace, Hull & Watford. What have they done right that we haven't. Yes Hull having been promoted had parachute payment money for team rebuilding, but Watford & Palace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 All that's happened is, frustrating though it may be, we've found our usual level again. Took a while thanks to SL's backing but back to where we've spent most of our history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 We have a businessman in charge of the club and not a football man. Throw money at it...........it doesn't work. Use plan B...........nope, ain't got one yet. How about 5 pillars.......? Yep, that sounds like a cute business catchphrase, lets try that. 5 pillocks more like (Lansdown x 2, Burt, O'Driscoll, Pemberton) Pretty much sums up our board for me in 4 very to the point sentances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanbcfc89 Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 When we reached the playoff final, who were the other three teams in those play offs? Palace, Hull & Watford. Notice anything odd about the play offs in May 2013, Three of the teams were Palace, Hull & Watford. What have they done right that we haven't. Yes Hull having been promoted had parachute payment money for team rebuilding, but Watford & Palace? London clubs are always able to get the best loan players or young players coming through very helpful in sustaining championship football every season these clubs have a stven caulker in there team every year maybe 2 or 3 of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusader Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 We got rid of Johnson far too early. If there was dressing room unrest he should have been given time to weed them out Club needs stability, not change managers or shout for managers to be changed every two seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 London clubs are always able to get the best loan players or young players coming through very helpful in sustaining championship football every season these clubs have a stven caulker in there team every year maybe 2 or 3 of them Yep, Hull, that famous suburb of London Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 The decline started immediately after the play off final because Johnson despite the boards full support failed to realise that City would be found out the following season if he didn't seriously strengthen the squad over that summer. He failed to do that. Consequently the well know 'second season' phenomena kicked it and essentially the club have slumped downwards ever since, despite 3 different managers before ODriscoll. At least now we have a man with a long term plan even if it means pain before gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 We got rid of Johnson far too early. If there was dressing room unrest he should have been given time to weed them out Club needs stability, not change managers or shout for managers to be changed every two seconds The club didn't sack Johnson soon enough ffs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 We got rid of Johnson far too early. If there was dressing room unrest he should have been given time to weed them out Club needs stability, not change managers or shout for managers to be changed every two seconds He should've gone a lot earlier than he did, he failed to improve the squad and push forward even with the wads of cash he had at his disposal.. the dressing room spirit he built was torn down by himself and as a result the football was getting progressively worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 What happened after play off final? We over achieved outrageously and ever since we have tried to overachieve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 The decline started immediately after the play off final because Johnson despite the boards full support failed to realise that City would be found out the following season if he didn't seriously strengthen the squad over that summer. He failed to do that. Consequently the well know 'second season' phenomena kicked it and essentially the club have slumped downwards ever since, despite 3 different managers before ODriscoll. At least now we have a man with a long term plan even if it means pain before gain. I agree with most of that Robbored but in the second season we were still in with a shout of the playoffs until the Birmingham and Derby away games late into March, after that it went downhill from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 The club didn't sack Johnson soon enough ffs! Yes, they should have sacked him during his first season as you rightly suggested at the time. We'd be top 4 prem now if they did......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Yes, they should have sacked him during his first season as you rightly suggested at the time. We'd be top 4 prem now if they did......... No they shouldn't have sacked him then. He had a 5 year contract remember? That said I'm surprised Lansdown Sr didn't see throughout Johnsons limitations earlier than he did and when he did actually sack him the damage was already done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 The decline started immediately after the play off final because Johnson despite the boards full support failed to realise that City would be found out the following season if he didn't seriously strengthen the squad over that summer. He failed to do that. Consequently the well know 'second season' phenomena kicked it and essentially the club have slumped downwards ever since, despite 3 different managers before ODriscoll. At least now we have a man with a long term plan even if it means pain before gain. I'm genuinely staggered that you compare O'Driscoll favourably to Gary Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 I'm genuinely staggered that you compare O'Driscoll favourably to Gary Johnson Don't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 At least now we have a man with a long term plan even if it means pain before gain. Long term plan!? Invented by under-achievers who want to avoid scrutiny. There is only one kind of plan in football - it's a one year plan. The aim is promotion. The objective to win as many games as possible. Simple. It's not rocket science. Football is a sport, not a business. Some smaller clubs, like Orient and Fleetwood, are showing what passion, team-spirit and big hearts can. Sadly our club has lost its soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksy Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 I think Coppell walking out can tell you a lot about the problems that we now see happening at Ashton Gate. People don't usually walk away from a good Job ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Don't be. The best manager this club has had since Alan Dicks versus a dreary Midlander who's taken us to the bottom of League One and failed to win in 20 games. Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyRed Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Long term plan!? Invented by under-achievers who want to avoid scrutiny. There is only one kind of plan in football - it's a one year plan. The aim is promotion. The objective to win as many games as possible. Simple. It's not rocket science. Football is a sport, not a business. Some smaller clubs, like Orient and Fleetwood, are showing what passion, team-spirit and big hearts can. Sadly our club has lost its soul. This. For all the long-winded explanations espoused on this forum - six short sentences say it how it is... great post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanbcfc89 Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Yep, Hull, that famous suburb of London When we reached the playoff final, who were the other three teams in those play offs? Palace, Hull & Watford. Notice anything odd about the play offs in May 2013, Three of the teams were Palace, Hull & Watford. What have they done right that we haven't. Yes Hull having been promoted had parachute payment money for team rebuilding, but Watford & Palace? Read the comment from 22A he said that hull being succsesfull since those play offs in 2008 is to be expected due to parachute payments but how have palace and watford matained top half play off status since 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanbcfc89 Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Yep, Hull, that famous suburb of London And withywood red your an idiot aswell for liking that post shows you dont take consideration of points made in previous posts before making a judgement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 On BBC Radio Bristol last night......2 quotes made regarding their team's performance.... Gary Johnson....... "No manager is happy with a draw" Sean O'Driscoll....... "We'd have been delighted with a draw" That speaks volumes in my book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanbcfc89 Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 On BBC Radio Bristol last night......2 quotes made regarding their team's performance.... Gary Johnson....... "No manager is happy with a draw" Sean O'Driscoll....... "We'd have been delighted with a draw" That speaks volumes in my book Says it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Long term plan!? Invented by under-achievers who want to avoid scrutiny. There is only one kind of plan in football - it's a one year plan. The aim is promotion. The objective to win as many games as possible. Simple. It's not rocket science. Football is a sport, not a business. Some smaller clubs, like Orient and Fleetwood, are showing what passion, team-spirit and big hearts can. Sadly our club has lost its soul. Spot on, fans need a well run club with leaders and do`ers; not journeymen with no heart in OUR CLUB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 On BBC Radio Bristol last night......2 quotes made regarding their team's performance.... Gary Johnson....... "No manager is happy with a draw" Sean O'Driscoll....... "We'd have been delighted with a draw" That speaks volumes in my book Johnson seemed happy to draw many home games in his final 2 seasons in charge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Johnson seemed happy to draw many home games in his final 2 seasons in charge... Yep. And many of those home draws came from ridiculously late goals being conceded too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Yep. And many of those home draws came from ridiculously late goals being conceded too. Agree but saying a draw isn't a good result sometimes is just rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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