Betelgeuse Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 3 and a half years is crazy! End of the season then take stock would have been the best bet. If he does a good job then maybe offer a 2 year deal in the summer but 3 and a half deal from now? Ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciderhead433 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Who were you expecting a top manager. At this little small minded club. Get behind the new manager he might surprise us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Jim Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 LANSDOWN OUT, DAWE OUT, LANSDOWN JR OUT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 your tweet just got a mention on Radio Bristol JT ah, I turned it off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS34Red Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 I remember watching that JL interview the other day. Now everything he said that day must have been a complete lie. He said the pillars were not dependant on SOD, well not it most definitely seems they were dependant on him. Everything has now been ripped apart by this decision. The board bottled their long term plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Cotterill said he got another - seemingly late - offer to manage 'a Northern club'. Perhaps the board had to then at least match the length of their contract offer. Agree though it's too long. Isn't that the kind of philosophy that has landed us in this mess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowley Birkin Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 The fact he's been given three and a half years can only mean he's on the minimum wage, or there abouts, and he must do as he's told, otherwise they wouldn't of sanctioned it. Must be on a pittance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Sounds like the board really wanted their man and Cotterill could name his price almost. Staggering. I really hopes it works out but at the rate we are going we will be looking for someone else whilst still paying off SoD and Cotterill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS34Red Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 If we're relegated this season then he will be gone and we got 3 years of his contract to pay up. What's his wage gonna be 150k a year? So that's close to half a million to pay him off if we go down. Well done board. Another costly mistake waiting to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rich_s Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 OMG! Just don't like the bloke. He has always struck me as a bit of shark and conman and I believe he may have hood-winked the board. A 3.5 year contract in this day and age is incredulous. Hopefully there's some small-print which states what the notice period is for both parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Taunton Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 He'll be here no longer than 18 months at most. If there's no improvement or god forbid we go backwards even more he will get the bullet. If he does well then he will be touted by another club and be on his merry way. Not one to stick around long is SC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EDoubleD Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 That is a long contract considering where we are in the league and his record. What happens if we go down? We're basically stuck with him...let's just hope he's a good appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaner89 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Not dis appointed with SC being appointed, cuz the board obviously see something in him and it was expected anyway... But three and a half years. If he is crap like most people think, this decision will cost them big time. Extremely stupid decision on the contract terms!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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!james Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Just seen these tweets from Michael Calvin journo who works at the Independent and has written a few books: @CalvinBook Blimey. Steve Cotterill on a three and a half year contract. Bristol City, there, giving hope to all basket case clubs @CalvinBook and if he is on what I have been told he is on, they really are away with the fairies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNBT Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Can't believe he's on that long a contract was expecting a 2 year at the most, better sort it out or that's another load cash wasted on paying him off. The board really do need sacking with their ridiculous decisions before we don't have a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Hands up anybody who believes he will still be with us in 3 1/2 years ? Hmm ,thought so,so another contract to pay up before it's time . How the hell did SL make his fortune with decisions like these,beats me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Perhaps the board have given him a 3.5 year contract because they think he'll be so good a Premiership club will poach him in a years time. As he's on a long contract City will get a big compensation package. (I don't really believe this - just clutching at straws) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Hands up anybody who believes he will still be with us in 3 1/2 years ? Hmm ,thought so,so another contract to pay up before it's time . How the hell did SL make his fortune with decisions like these,beats me. Peter carried him. Peter was the brains and brawn and champion of it. Lansdown was the one to keep him in check and keep the business turning over. Or so I've heard from long-term employees there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Just seen these tweets from Michael Calvin journo who works at the Independent and has written a few books: @CalvinBook Blimey. Steve Cotterill on a three and a half year contract. Bristol City, there, giving hope to all basket case clubs @CalvinBook and if he is on what I have been told he is on, they really are away with the fairies Bristol City, laughing stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 How can a group of able-minded individuals sit around a table and think to themselves 'Right, I think it would be a fantastic idea if we sacked Sean O'Driscoll and replaced him with Steve Cotterill, the bloke who Sean had to stop from relegating Forest. The bloke who fans' of the majority of clubs he's managed have highly criticised and someone they wouldn't wish on Bristol Manor Farm, let alone Bristol City. While we're at it, let's give him a four year deal.' The one good thing that does come out of this, is the fact we know who's to blame if we go down this year. They're held responsible for everything that goes on the pitch now, no more patience due transition, this time they've brought it upon themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Probably be 50K to 75K a year. Hardly earth shattering. Please remember it's not the same as paying Neil Killkeny 10k a week for 5.5 years. Sacking him after 18 months with cost SL next to **** all. It's no big deal. try closer to 3-4k a week, no way he will be on 50-75k a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 How the hell would he know how much Cotterill is being paid ? He wouldn't and he doesn't. The same way that John Percy from the Telegraph broke the news that we were appointing Cotterill when he tweeted it on Monday morning at 7:48am? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayOutWest Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 I was a bit surprised on the 3.5 year deal too. But, in the cold light of day, his job will be safe start of next season, regardless. Then if results are not coming, he would presumably be given until xmas next year. Well instead of 1 years compensation it will be be 2 years. I would imagine in the grand scheme of things 1 years salary for SC wouldnt be that bad. However if we are still a strong contender in this league next season, and I seriously hope we are, then a 3.5 year deal doesn't seem so bad. This season - Survival Next Season - Push for promotion Next Season - Push for promotion I am sure we would all take that right now, and if SC can deliver 3 seasons like that, then it will be a success from where we are. Stevo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Ok so we have to get behind the guy but a few thoughts before i decide to consider putting my criticism to bed.. 1. He says he wants to play high tempo passing game.. that sounds like another way of saying 'don't hold on to it, run like the clappers or hoof it' 2.Made me chuckle when he said 2 other good clubs were in for him as if thats supposed to make all the vast majority of doubters go.. 'wow, really, ok so we actually are really underestimating what we are getting here' ! Do me a fav mate and tone down the arrogance until you have won a few matches. 3. As for the 3 and half year deal - clearly the board believed him on point 2 and thought hang on.. we better up our offer from a one year rolling contract. They really do come across now as inept. Just waiting for my Stoke buddy to give me the heads up on him .. not expecting any pleasant surprises but will share what he says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longyears Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 As a contract specialist during most of my working life I can assure you that the contract length taken on its own is largely irrelevant. There will undoubtedly be clauses in the small print related to notice periods, severance provisions, performance related actions and many, many more conditions. Even the poorest lawyer would make sure of that. We also need to think that the man intends to move to Bristol with his family and all that entails. Would you expect anyone sane to make such a big life change without some longer term guarantees - I certainly never did. Finally - just to clarify - I am not overjoyed with his appointment so am not posting in his support, just pointing out common sense. I also have to admit that thinking about it yesterday I came to the same conclusion as other posters on OTIB - who was a viable alternative ? I couldn't think of one - and forget Warnock - was never going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Ok so we have to get behind the guy but a few thoughts before i decide to consider putting my criticism to bed.. 1. He says he wants to play high tempo passing game.. that sounds like another way of saying 'don't hold on to it, run like the clappers or hoof it' Hmmm, running with the ball, apart from Moloney and young Bob and Joe, is one of the things we don't seem to like to do. and they are three of our best players. Run the ball out of our half until you see the pass, don't stand around waiting for one to appear because as the game slows down all our midfielders get marked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 As a contract specialist during most of my working life I can assure you that the contract length taken on its own is largely irrelevant. There will undoubtedly be clauses in the small print related to notice periods, severance provisions, performance related actions and many, many more conditions. Even the poorest lawyer would make sure of that. We also need to think that the man intends to move to Bristol with his family and all that entails. Would you expect anyone sane to make such a big life change without some longer term guarantees - I certainly never did. Finally - just to clarify - I am not overjoyed with his appointment so am not posting in his support, just pointing out common sense. I also have to admit that thinking about it yesterday I came to the same conclusion as other posters on OTIB - who was a viable alternative ? I couldn't think of one - and forget Warnock - was never going to happen. Exactly. But 3 1/2 YEARS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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