ashton_fan Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 This has just come out, the FA are looking for ways to accommodate 'B' teams for Premiership clubs, it could either be good or bad news for the blues depending on the outcome: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27289819 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 This cannot happen for the sake of the history of the Football League and the history of the conference and non-league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 no no no no no and no again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM91 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 absolutely hideous idea. If this is done for the sake of the national team then I for one shall stop watching the already intensely dull international football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Bristol Red Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 the first game at UWE Bristol Rovers Vs Bristol City B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Utter rubbish again ! Why can't they stop trying to squeeze every last drop of life blood out of our national sport ? There already exists a league for this and players can always go out on loan to benefit smaller clubs . The only good point is that the gap would be even wider between us and the Gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 This would be disastrous. Premiership reserve teams playing at that level would hinder the promotion prospects of non league teams into League 2. I haven't any interest in Rovers but there are a lot of well run non league teams who deserve to have the realistic opportunity of progressing up the league pyramid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 no no no no no and no again So if i read this correctly you're against the idea Monkeh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Agree with everyone here, what a horrible idea. Commission just trying to copy the Spanish idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityFarAndWide Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Would that mean our "B" Team could relegate them further? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Them with their noses in the trough won't be happy until the top four clubs in the premiership have it all. They continue to squeeze the smaller clubs out of existance. Football is the dream that one day it could be our turn for glory .Kill that and you kill the sport . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 This would be disastrous. Premier League reserve teams playing at that level would hinder the promotion prospects of non league teams into League 2. I haven't any interest in Rovers but there are a lot of well run non league teams who deserve to have the realistic opportunity of progressing up the league pyramid. The way it works in other countries is that the 'B' teams cannot be promoted and the promotion spots would filter down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red10 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 The way it works in other countries is that the 'B' teams cannot be promoted and the promotion spots would filter down They can't be promoted to the same division as their first team but they can rise through the pyramid, Barca B are 3rd in the second division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manon Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Horrific. So the elite would be allowed to trample all over the lower echelons just because english talent is not getting through? The likes of cheltenham, Bury, and even the Gas should be treated with exactly the same respect as the top clubs of this country. One has no more right than the other. How about dealing with the core issue here by sticking a proper cap on foreign players per team, so that the domestic talent is naturally allowed to progress... Oh I forgot, that would mean the EPL losing it's perceived attractiveness and it's global no 1 status. In short, it all boils down to money at the top (again), with little thought for everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted May 6, 2014 Admin Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Would expect it to take years to get voted into place But the problem is this does happen in leagues around Europe already - as our friends in Tillburg will know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Most of the top teams have young foreign players in there reserve teams anyway. This wouldn't solve anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcityman Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Horrific. So the elite would be allowed to trample all over the lower echelons just because english talent is not getting through? The likes of cheltenham, Bury, and even the Gas should be treated with exactly the same respect as the top clubs of this country. One has no more right than the other. How about dealing with the core issue here by sticking a proper cap on foreign players per team, so that the domestic talent is naturally allowed to progress... Oh I forgot, that would mean the EPL losing it's perceived attractiveness and it's global no 1 status. In short, it all boils down to money at the top (again), with little thought for everyone else. You have it spot on. This is nothing to do with improving England prospect, more to do with pandering to the big 5/6 clubs and it's shareholders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Bristol R*vers could become the Bristol City "B" team simples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Awful idea. It doesn't matter that this happens in other countries, those other countries don't have over 100 different professional football clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityFarAndWide Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Which one of you posted this : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Rather than do this, why not pump more money into the Reserve/U21 leagues and make them into a summer tournament a.la the WSL. Generate television interest, more exposure for younger players etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night84 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 It wouldn't reserve teams though, the clubs would have to have two distinct squads which they wouldn't be able to transfer players between outside of transfer windows. That being said, I think it's a massive smack in the face for L1 and L2 clubs thinking they'd want to play 'B' teams where ever they were from. Where will there home grounds be? Sure as hell not the Etihad and Emirates. My idea would be to remove Premier League And Championship from the League Cup and let their B teams play in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semblar Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 They can't be promoted to the same division as their first team but they can rise through the pyramid, Barca B are 3rd in the second division. I know with Barca it's not a realistic prospect - but what would happen if the A team got relegated? Would the B team get relegated too, even if they were topping the division? This certainly sounds like something which would cause far more harm than good for "lower" teams... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Believesham Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 I know with Barca it's not a realistic prospect - but what would happen if the A team got relegated? Would the B team get relegated too, even if they were topping the division? This certainly sounds like something which would cause far more harm than good for "lower" teams... I believe so - also I think the B team could potentially replace the A team if they got promoted when the A team got relegated. I don't think promotion places are filtered down, if they are, they shouldn't be! There are hundreds of issues around the legality of registering players and how FFP would affect 'B' teams (why should a middle sized team with a B team get financial bonuses of ticket sales for league games in League 2) Ridiculous FA thinking out loud and publishing everything they can to cuddle up to the premier league What happened to feeder clubs (I am not a fan*)? or even spread players across the level at which they are performing - wages are the big problem, kids with promise that aren't on resonable money for the level they can perform at. Until this gets balanced out, premiership clubs should get used to paying most of a player's wages while he is out on loan. Not pricing clubs at the heart of communities in some cases out of the game. * - I reckon you should only be allowed to loan 2 players from one club at once anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WessexPest Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Total dog of an idea. While it's tempting to want to see another tier shoved between Rovers and us, we need to consider the far bigger picture here. I've never bought into this idea of the Premiership being "The Greatest League in the World" (trademark Sky) and even if it is the paucity of English players means it leaves me cold anyway. Where English football truly is peerless, though, is in the strength of the Pyramid from top to bottom. You can go five, six divisions down depending on the game and still get a proper football experience and good crowds & atmosphere. Then there's the FA Cup, which still manages to produce its fair share of shock results season in, season out, despite the yawning chasm between the Premiership moneybags and the rest. I went to Melksham Town v Devizes Town one Good Friday in the 1990s (I couldn't even tell you how many leagues there are between them and the FL) and there were a good 300 people in attendance. This is being missold to the fans as a way of bolstering the fortunes of the England team. Now, anything that benefits the England team is OK by me WITHIN REASON, but even if this was guaranteed to make us competitive and not utterly painful to watch I would be bitterly opposed to it. Anyway, I fail to see how it is going to benefit the England team. The way you do that is by giving more young English talent the opportunity to play at the highest level. No, this is all about pandering to the whims of the big clubs. It will be disastrous if it happens - I can see it being a slippery slope to bringing an end to relegation and the FA Cup - a wonderful tournament that has already been treated like absolute dogsmuck by the powers that be and the top clubs - will be completely neutered. Watch this suggestion re-open the possibility of the Glasgow clubs joining the English league too. What happened to the Combination League? Bring back the reserves there if necessary. Besides, the Premiership big guns have such massive squads now and play so many games that they have ample opportunity to give the young'uns a run-out - for example, a lot of clubs field reserve sides in League Cup ties. If you want a radical notion, how about scrapping the qualifying rounds of the FA Cup and having all teams, from Manchester City to the smallest team in the pyramid, enter at the same time. The grassroots clubs would get a crack at the big boys, and the greedy sods at the top could finally give something back to the grassroots. This proposal is beyond cretinous. The Premier League almost killed English football at the grassroots level. I hope we're not about to let Dyke et al finish the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 The bigger Premier League teams already stockpile players. This will make it far worse. What a terrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloggie Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Have this in the Netherlands now......Ajax, PSV and Twente have their second teams in the Dutch "2nd Division".....like Spain they cannot be promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloggie Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 and the Dutch haven't done too bad in International/European football over the last 30 years given the population is less than Greater London..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 I see they've consulted 300 people but seem to have missed out on consulting those who really matter, the fans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 Have this in the Netherlands now......Ajax, PSV and Twente have their second teams in the Dutch "2nd Division".....like Spain they cannot be promoted. Can they be relegated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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