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Well by your stand point Carey was not a amateur, so doesn't deserve praise. So I am guessing the same goes for Atyeo who was a pro for a couple of seasons. I think that is how logic works. Unless of course you didn't realise Atyeo was at one point a pro, and now that stand point starts to look a little iffy.

John Atyeo's situation was completely different. He could have left City to join much bigger first division teams, but he chose to stay with City. Although there was an official maximum wage in those days, he would have earned much more at another club through unofficial means. In all probability he would have also got more England caps.
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I can't believe I haven't seen one of these threads. Our all time capped player is leaving the club. A club legend and a hero.

You will always be Mr Bristol City to me.

Thank you Louis Carey..... You having given me countless memories that I will keep forever.

 

I can't believe you haven't seen one either.

 

There have been numerous over the season and another on this very page.

 

http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/162801-all-the-best-fonts-carey-marv/

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Everyone has a right to am opinion even if it disagrees with your own. Strange as it may seem I agree with Robbored! Carey is not an amateur who has given years of voluntary service to City. He had been well paid particularly in recent years when he has hardly played. Although a good player, he should have been released by City at least two seasons ago.

 

A truly weird statement.  City's record appearance player has not had his contract renewed, so bringing the curtain down on his career with his home town club during which time he has had more highly rated forwards in his pocket than I have had hot dinners.  Someone starts a thread thanking him for his time here and all you can do is make a churlish remark saying he should have left two years ago! :facepalm: :facepalm:

If he had left two years ago he should still have been thanked and appreciated for his time here, but no, because you think he overstayed his welcome you diss his contribution over the years, un bloody believable!

 

When I am discussing football with my grandkids in a few years time and they ask me about our record appearance player, I won't say we should have got rid of him two years before we did, I will tell them about the part he played in our promotions, how well he read the game and how he marked top class strikers out of the game. 

 

I will also tell them how he dropped a barbecue on his foot, had a ridiculous moustache and a silly hat.

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One simple point. As you've never met me and don't know my history of supporting City , don't make comments about me needing to question my allegiance to our club.

Maybe what I have written and what you have read are two different things? 

 

The simple point surely is that Carey has made a massive contribution to our football club. Lengths of contracts, when he should/should not have been released don't come into it.

 

Is that not difficult to see?

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I may be controversial but there are times at any football club where a long standing servant though seen to be a hero can actually cause harm to a club. In my mind he has never been the same since he went to Coventry. I think he was a catalyst with Johnson losing his way. Someone needed to make a stand and let him go. I have seen the influence a player can have even as low as the Suburban League. Everyone thinks he is the hub of the club but in  fact he is the centre of a clique which causes trouble from within. Let's see the progress made next season. He has been a fabulous servant but there will only ever be one Mr Bristol City and that man is Johnny Atyeo.

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I can't believe you haven't seen one either.

There have been numerous over the season and another on this very page.

http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/162801-all-the-best-fonts-carey-marv/

The fact that at different stages, there have been Louis threads shouldn't blind you Noggers.

The fact that we both - yes me too! - think he probably shouldn't have been retained the past two seasons shouldn't either.

The fact is, this is the final goodbye for one of the most club-orientated, decent, professional and likeable players we've ever had at AG.

We should be able to say, cheerio Louis and thanks for all you've done.

Seriously, every City fan should think that.

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John Atyeo's situation was completely different. He could have left City to join much bigger first division teams, but he chose to stay with City. Although there was an official maximum wage in those days, he would have earned much more at another club through unofficial means. In all probability he would have also got more England caps.

although big john supposedly played shit on purpose to get city city relegated to get then manager sacked! (An old guy I knew hated him for that) my point is all legends have there detractors!

P.s well done Louis!!!

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The fact that at different stages, there have been Louis threads shouldn't blind you Noggers.

The fact that we both - yes me too! - think he probably shouldn't have been retained the past two seasons shouldn't either.

The fact is, this is the final goodbye for one of the most club-orientated, decent, professional and likeable players we've ever had at AG.

We should be able to say, cheerio Louis and thanks for all you've done.

Seriously, every City fan should think that.

This is precisely it. It's not a debate about whether he constitutes a 'legend', whether his achievements are comparable to Atyeo's (different eras, not comparable IMO) or whether he should have left 2 years ago (when he only would have had miserly 600ish appearance) it's just a case of saying "all the best Louis, cheerio and we appreciate the effort you've put in at various points of your career". Some people seem to be pissed off simply because he made 646 appearances for the club the purport to love, with any other group of fans such an achievement would surely be cause for celebration, or at the least some polite applause
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In case you haven't noticed, this is a forum , i e

"A meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged"

Explain to me where the "debate" was asked for?

It was a simple "thank you" to a long standing servant to the club.

if you don't think he warrants it in your eyes then fine, just leave the thread!

Some people are just always looking for a row - now thats different from "debate".

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John Atyeo's situation was completely different. He could have left City to join much bigger first division teams, but he chose to stay with City. Although there was an official maximum wage in those days, he would have earned much more at another club through unofficial means. In all probability he would have also got more England caps.

Really?  So JA is okay, because he was on a salary cap and chose to be semi professional, and Louis Carey it is not okay to deem him as a legend and worth a good send off because he was a professional?

 

Going by you standards, we could say, JA, let the club down by not fully committing to them in a full time role.  Of course we would not say that because of the blood sweat tears put in.  So what is different with Carey?

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I see that no-one has mentioned his refusal to sign a CIty contract and subsequently moved on to Coventry CIty. He was lucky he g ot resigned at AG. It wa his pal TInnion in charge at the time.

We all make mistakes in life, but you just seem to be one big one!

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I see that no-one has mentioned his refusal to sign a CIty contract and subsequently moved on to Coventry CIty. He was lucky he g ot resigned at AG. It wa his pal TInnion in charge at the time.

And if he hadn't been resigned there wouldn't be a thread marking the fact that our record appearance player has just been released. But he was
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I see that no-one has mentioned his refusal to sign a CIty contract and subsequently moved on to Coventry CIty. He was lucky he g ot resigned at AG. It wa his pal TInnion in charge at the time.

Nice to talk about if and buts, but ifs and buts are not facts, he re-signed.  Also we have the issue that local lads were not getting the wages guys signed from outside the club were getting, he made a stand, and quite rightly so imo, the board didn't budge, so he did the only thing open to him.  I would expect anyone in any walk of life to take the same attitude if being discriminated against due to where they come from.

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And if he hadn't been resigned there wouldn't be a thread marking the fact that our record appearance player has just been released. But he was

I'm just pointing out that IMO Carey chose to leave the club when they didn't offer him a deal that he thought he was worth. John Atyeo was a one club man.

Huge difference.

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I'm just pointing out that IMO Carey chose to leave the club when they didn't offer him a deal that he thought he was worth. John Atyeo was a one club man.

Huge difference.

 

As was pointed out to me once by TRL, that statement is factually incorrect, he played 2 games for Portsmouth as well, not so good on the history of your own club, but of course your specialist subject is the history of the good old gas.

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Agreed,

 

Not the best footballer, not the best defender, hell, not even the best captain, but, he put his body on the line every time he stepped over that white line, and as a captain, seemed to know who to give a bollocking to, who to put a arm around.

 

Not my favourite City player in all the years I have watched,but, I am glad he was here,I am glad I got to watch effort, blood spilt,broken noses and broken Skull, that alone,puts him well above many of the players to grace the Gate.

 

What ever the future holds, good luck to you Louis

 

Always had time for the fans, always jovial, and a real family man from what I have witnessed away from football.

 

Nothing spectacular, but one up there with legend status.

I think he was a better footballer than many make out. Because of his commitment his skill was often overlooked. I think he was a player who could of played in any position on the field. At his peak he did have pace and used to go past opposition players with ease. I would often have a go at him for not running with the ball more often and believe it was probably a confidence thing. Whether he compares with John Atyeo is irrelevant as I think he is a Bristol City legend; a top footballer.

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