BRISTOL86 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 it's not a problem Bill, these 2 have been brought in as consultants for the drainage problems.Tedandralph.jpg Wouldn't really know about that sir.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Been thinking for some time now that there is no way this stand will be ready in time for the start of the new season. It looks a million miles away from being finished Kind of sums the club up really, nothing ever runs smoothly and to plan. Whether its a ticket fiasco or this....we always do things the hard way Look forward to using the facilities in time for Christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Is the project up to four months behind as some claim? Are those who claim this, Civil Engineers? Or just picking numbers out because the build sequence is different to what was originally envisaged? The major thing that is going to happen in the next month, is the construction and placement of the massive girder at the front of the Dolman. Once this is done, one assumes from what we have seen this winter, the gap in the South Stand will take very little time to be completed. Installation of seats is not a major problem and neither is the addition of the front of Dolman when the last game is played on 17th or 24th May. Most important of the interior fittings are the new club offices and toilets for the stand. I am not a gambling man, but if I was, I would bet on it all being ready for the first week in August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Can't imagine they are that far behind schedule, we've had a really mild winter so it isn't like they've lost a month to snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 As long as they don't announce that we're not getting promoted I'm fine with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Can't imagine they are that far behind schedule, we've had a really mild winter so it isn't like they've lost a month to snow. No, but there's other potential causes of a delay: shortages of materials (steel, concrete) and bad project management being just two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 No, but there's other potential causes of a delay: shortages of materials (steel, concrete) and bad project management being just two. Never mind, I'm sure they'll bung everyone a few food vouchers and ensure you get to an away game late! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Can't imagine they are that far behind schedule, we've had a really mild winter so it isn't like they've lost a month to snow. Wrong size steel was ordered and the relocation of the electrics took longer than expected. As others have said the stand was supposed to be up by the end of January so they must be at least 2 months behind schedule by my reckoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Wrong size steel was ordered and the relocation of the electrics took longer than expected. As others have said the stand was supposed to be up by the end of January so they must be at least 2 months behind schedule by my reckoning. Sounds like that's down to Barr and not the club, I'd guess there is a plan B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Don't be so quick to assume fella. This project has been behind since November, and is at least 3, possibly 4 month behind schedule now. That's not easy to make up with a bit of overtime here and there. Here's the Project Manager : https://uk.linkedin.com/in/peterpjsmith Not sure how someone with a degree in History should be a) working as a 1st team scout at a Championship level football club, or b) be given responsibility for a multi-million pound huge and unprecendented construction project? Cheers for that Harry, jeez, this guy must be the luckiest bastard alive to have held down these roles without any experience in any of those fields. How on earth do you get jobs like this, shit, there are people out there who have years of experience in the field and wont even get to be a site manager for putting a tin roof on a barn, this guy gets a multi-million pound project to oversee and he specialises in conference training???? First team recruitment player analyst from organising seat arrangement in hall, that is some switch, I can't wait to see his next job from there, the Large Hadron Collider team in Switzerland could do with this guy at the moment, he seems to be able to do anything (but not for more than 12 months it seems) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 I believe its a cause of regret that they ordered specially designed retro East End style urinals for the South Stand gents toilets... Was gonna be a surprise for us City fans from the 60s/70s who will remember the old facilities well, seems the designers got the retro styling a bit too authentic and club officials are concerned about a predicted 'back slash from fans' .. Wading through rivers of urine wasn't so much of a problem years ago when most eastenders wore steel toed boots and Doc M's ... Its feared this may no longer be the case now that so many ex-boot boys are wearing suede Hush Puppies and such like. Contingency plans to be announced are that season ticket holders for the new South Stand will be issued (free of charge) with Bsport Red ankle-length wellington booties which is hoped will mitigate the situation. WTTJungle obviously misheard part of the conversation. Heard it from an ITK supporter with impeccable sources, by the name of Catchynia or summit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 I'm sure he used to post on this forum years and years ago Percy Parrot wasn't he? A regular on OTIB for many years. He came up with the idea for Red and White nights on this forum iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Cheers for that Harry, jeez, this guy must be the luckiest bastard alive to have held down these roles without any experience in any of those fields. How on earth do you get jobs like this, shit, there are people out there who have years of experience in the field and wont even get to be a site manager for putting a tin roof on a barn, this guy gets a multi-million pound project to oversee and he specialises in conference training???? First team recruitment player analyst from organising seat arrangement in hall, that is some switch, I can't wait to see his next job from there, the Large Hadron Collider team in Switzerland could do with this guy at the moment, he seems to be able to do anything (but not for more than 12 months it seems) If his core skills are in Conference training, maybe Darryl will give him a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Percy Parrot wasn't he? A regular on OTIB for many years. He came up with the idea for Red and White nights on this forum iirc. The stadium rebuild project manager is Percy parrot?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 The stadium rebuild project manager is Percy parrot?! Unless I'm very much mistaken, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Unless I'm very much mistaken, yes. Percy?? Parrot???? **** me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Unless I'm very much mistaken, yes. Am I completely mistaken or was he also working for the club in the not too distant past on match days sorting out the mascots etc? He was always hanging around the tunnel in a suit and had a radio on him.... Or, have I completely mistaken him for someone else?!?! Either way, has old Percy got the project management gig through contacts rather than qualifications? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Percy?? Parrot???? **** me Let's hope he doesn't get caught with his hand in the Trill! (I'm sure he wouldn't, just to be clear). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Jesus, a bloke on here who knows jack shit spouts off and all of a sudden theres a witch hunt. I've been project director for a number of large scale projects and I've never had any formal training in project management (and I wouldn't want it, its bloody boring). The reason I've been in that position is to represent the client - not the contractor. This would be the same arrangement, it aint rocket science to work that out. Recruitment player analyst - managing a data base. Nothing more and nothing less. Before assassinating someone on some random blokes post, people should use a bit of common sense and perspective.Exactly this. Barr have their own project manager. Pete Smith will just be the interface between the client and contractor, which will have more importance in our case since Ashton Gate remains a live sports stadium and not purely a construction site. I'd be more worried if there wasn't a Bristol Sport/BCFC project manager as there would be no structured line of communication and things would be getting pulled in all directions by the various interested individuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFiGO!?! Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Percy?? Parrot???? **** mePercy?? Parrot???? **** me Isn't it so that contractor's payment is on completion of the separate stages of the project? Meaning it is in the contractor's interest to get the various stages achieved as promptly an efficiently as they can before progressing to the next. Kinda think that any blame for delay shouldn't necessarilly be aimed at the club. Barr have a decent enough CV. Like the coach company used by CATS, it isn't necessarilly in the club's hands. The cluster **** that would result in not providing supporters' with South Stand season ticket seats is one not worth comprehending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky89 Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 I've never known a build go to schedule. I've been following the FC United new stadium. It's only 4,500 capacity and was due to finish in October, then Christmas now by the start of next season . . . Not to mention the monumental cock ups with the Northampton and Oldham stands that are still incomplete!!! I think Peterboroughs opened much later than planned, too? We won't have a 27,000 capacity stadium ready by 2016/17, I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Never mind, I'm sure they'll bung everyone a few food vouchers and ensure you get to an away game late! Maybe they`ll chuck everyone a tenner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Porter Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 All though possibly the stand can function without everything finished ie, the bars etc lets not forget that the club would need to gain a safety certificate to allow us lunatics to use the new stand. I would presume that means the immediate area around the stand would need to be finished also, so it's not just the stand that's needs to be complete or 90 % complete its the whole area I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Isn't it so that contractor's payment is on completion of the separate stages of the project? Meaning it is in the contractor's interest to get the various stages achieved as promptly an efficiently as they can before progressing to the next. I doubt if this is stage payments, probably monthly valuations. But any client's PM or representative should be looking at the payments made compared to the original forecast valuation and a significant variation should send loud alarm bells ringing. I can't believe Chris Booy isn't heavily involved from the Bristol Sport side, or is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Negan Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 "Steve Cotterill has demanded that the gap between the stand remains until the end of the season so if his team are held to a draw or are beaten he can blame it on the wind" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Dolman Pragmatist Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Presumably if the South Stand was significantly delayed beyond the start of next season, they would have to delay demolishing the Williams, putting the whole building project back a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Presumably if the South Stand was significantly delayed beyond the start of next season, they would have to delay demolishing the Williams, putting the whole building project back a year.otherwise we will be looking at 10k capacity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 I've never known a build go to schedule. I've been following the FC United new stadium. It's only 4,500 capacity and was due to finish in October, then Christmas now by the start of next season . . . Not to mention the monumental cock ups with the Northampton and Oldham stands that are still incomplete!!! I think Peterboroughs opened much later than planned, too? We won't have a 27,000 capacity stadium ready by 2016/17, I'm sure. That one out UWE is taking a while as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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