22A Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheatus59 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Shame he couldn't get them to play ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedYoshi Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Why no highlighting of Derrick Williams, hey? Hey?! HEY!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Shame he couldn't get them to play ! He did. It was like watching an England friendly He learnt a lot, the players learnt a lot, but it was deadly to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 200 passes across the back four and smash it up field to the smallest bloke on the pitch. Twas wonderful to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fka dagest Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I can't think of much to thank him for. Mind you I expect it was Keith Burt who signed those players or at least that was the logic used by some when Cotterill started making good signings. SOD was pretty much an all-round disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 "Adrian" Flint can't have been up to much .He never played a game . Any relation to our own Aden ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 He did. It was like watching an England friendly He learnt a lot, the players learnt a lot, but it was deadly to watch. And near fatal results. At least he gave us "stupid question". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I can't think of much to thank him for. Mind you I expect it was Keith Burt who signed those players or at least that was the logic used by some when Cotterill started making good signings. SOD was pretty much an all-round disaster. True but , and give me a little leeway here , if he hadn't had been sooooo bad then this season wouldn't have been soooo good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 What's far, far, far more telling is he took that lot on our longest ever losing run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs3 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 What's far, far, far more telling is he took that lot on our longest ever losing run. Just goes to show what a terrible manager he is. What is also telling is how so many people was taken in by his pseudo intellect and tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall King Blox Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 bought a bag of chips today....didn't eat them all....sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray White Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 The only good thing about SOD as manager was watching jet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 He did. It was like watching an England friendly He learnt a lot, the players learnt a lot, but it was deadly to watch. He learnt he wasn't as good a manager as he thought. The players learnt....??....nope....lost me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Monkeh Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 So the players signed this season were burts doing but last season was sods doing? Sorry not thanking him for anything sod was the worst thing to happen to this club he was an awful manager with no bottle and every player under him regressed All the stats back that up despite people trying to rewrite history If there was a list of bad managers at this club sod would be too followed by pulis in a distant second and Osman in 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 And near fatal results. At least he gave us "stupid question". I miss SOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 He did. It was like watching an England friendly He learnt a lot, the players learnt a lot, but it was deadly to watch. Deadly means good in Ireland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 He might have signed the players, yes credit for that, but he certainly couldn't get them playing as a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Deadly means good in Ireland It's like the example of important punctuation: JIMMY SAVILLE IS DEAD GOOD. JIMMY SAVILLE IS DEAD. GOOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rag Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 I have only just managed to erase the most dismal period of Supporting BCFC from my mind, then there's this thread. Thanks a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 200 passes across the back four and smash it up field to the smallest bloke on the pitch. Twas wonderful to watch.yes but 70% possession sounded good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ten minutes of rough Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 What's far, far, far more telling is he took that lot on our longest ever losing run. Come off it he obviously has an eye for a player, give the bloke some credit for that at least. What failed him was his persona, unlike the present incumbent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Come off it he obviously has an eye for a player, give the bloke some credit for that at least. What failed him was his persona, unlike the present incumbent. burt had an eye for a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 To what extent SO'D has contributed to our success this year is a very interesting point, and you can't dismiss the notion out of hand that we owe him some gratitude. It strikes me that: After McInnes we needed an overhaul: O'Driscoll did that. We needed to clear out a lot of deadwood and sign some good players: if O'Driscoll had not signed Fielding, Flint, Williams and Pack, would we be where we are today? We were always going to go through a bad patch as the team was rebased: all clubs in the position we were in do that. It happened after Tinnion, when Johnson had to lead us through a very grim period before we turned the corner, and you can look at a club like Southampton which had to 'take its medicine' in League One before being able to progress. O'Driscoll got the whole club thinking differently and, I think, actually thinking more positively as whole. Yes, he appears to have been a poor man-manager; yes, he couldn't handle the media without making a fool of himself; yes, his team was far from attractive to watch; but I believe that if he had stayed things would have improved, even if we would not have got anywhere near where we are now. Don't get me wrong, I think he had to go when he did, but I certainly don't think that we would have been relegated if he'd stayed, and I think we would have still made some progress in the second half of last season. To sum up, O'Driscoll was not a good fit for the club and could not have lasted, but I don't think we would have won the Division this season without what happened during his tenure, so I think we should thank him for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ten minutes of rough Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 He might have signed the players, yes credit for that, but he certainly couldn't get them playing as a team. Perhaps not having the time could have been the problem, rarely managers are given time to build a team, they have to hit the ground running, hardly the Ferguson model is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 To what extent SO'D has contributed to our success this year is a very interesting point, and you can't dismiss the notion out of hand that we owe him some gratitude. It strikes me that: After McInnes we needed an overhaul: O'Driscoll did that. We needed to clear out a lot of deadwood and sign some good players: if O'Driscoll had not signed Fielding, Flint, Williams and Pack, would we be where we are today? We were always going to go through a bad patch as the team was rebased: all clubs in the position we were in do that. It happened after Tinnion, when Johnson had to lead us through a very grim period before we turned the corner, and you can look at a club like Southampton which had to 'take its medicine' in League One before being able to progress. O'Driscoll got the whole club thinking differently and, I think, actually thinking more positively as whole. Yes, he appears to have been a poor man-manager; yes, he couldn't handle the media without making a fool of himself; yes, his team was far from attractive to watch; but I believe that if he had stayed things would have improved, even if we would not have got anywhere near where we are now. Don't get me wrong, I think he had to go when he did, but I certainly don't think that we would have been relegated if he'd stayed, and I think we would have still made some progress in the second half of last season. To sum up, O'Driscoll was not a good fit for the club and could not have lasted, but I don't think we would have won the Division this season without what happened during his tenure, so I think we should thank him for that. You make some very good points...however I'd like to make a point if I may, regarding your last sentence. In short...I think SoD was the perfect fit for our Club at the time, as Like you allude, he got the Club working and thinking differently. What he put in place has enabled us to move forward under another manager. He even alluded to that fact, that the next manager will benefit. I didn't like it when he left, but in hindsight, it was probably the best move. No one expected us to have the season we've had, lets all be honest on that. But SC and KB have added to the quality that SoD brought in and carried on his philosophy. On paper we needed to take that one step back to take two forward. I really believe our Club can make that jump from 'sleeping giant' now...because it's owner woke up and realised things had to change. SoD made those changes as requested by SL and the board. SC and KB have taken it a step in the right direction. Long may it continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 It would be interesting to see how Cotts would have coped if he'd taken over when So'D did, I doubt if he'd have had any success for the first year either, he certainly took over at the right time and was able to build further on the foundations already laid down. I wonder if he'd have been given any longer than So'D was to turn the team around given that many supporters didn't support his appointment initially? The way things happened has worked out well for the club and I think both managers deserve some credit. The main reason we were in a mess in the first place was the succession of poor appointments following Johnson's departure and the ongoing problems we had with the stadium project. The squad So'D inherited was a complete mess, how many of those players are playing at Championship level or better now, only about four I can think of (Heaton, Gherkin, Skuse, Albert)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the b's Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 head coach if you please not manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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