BCFC Jimmer Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I think they are probably being cautious after we took them to the cleaners last year. I have a friend in the industry who said they had taken some massive bets on City winning the title at the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Birmingham had a decent finish to the season 28/1 looks a decent bet. Just spotted that too....seems a little high to me Isn't the bloke who went down in HK still their owner though? Maybe they have some kind of penalty coming up that the bookie knows about, and we don't! They beat a few teams around the bottom 1-0 when they had nothing to play for...I hardly think they can be described as having momentum going into next season based on that. Plus they are a basket case in terms of finances and how they are run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'm more surprised to see Brentford so high. Warburton is a good manager so they'll have a tough time replacing him.It will be interesting to see how Brentford perform next season when they start using the chairman, Mathew Benham's, mathematical modelling method. Players will be recruited using statistical analysis of their performance and statistics will be used to tell the new head coach, not manger, what to say at half time. Benham has already tried this with a club in Denmark and performance is measured by analysts in a gantry. The coach is sent a series of text messages just before half time telling him how players have performed and he has to use this as the basis of the half time team talk. Warburton wasn't prepared to work like this, hence his leaving. (I prefer the Steve Cotterril method) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 It will be interesting to see how Brentford perform next season when they start using the chairman, Mathew Benham's, mathematical modelling method. Players will be recruited using statistical analysis of their performance and statistics will be used to tell the new head coach, not manger, what to say at half time. Benham has already tried this with a club in Denmark and performance is measured by analysts in a gantry. The coach is sent a series of text messages just before half time telling him how players have performed and he has to use this as the basis of the half time team talk. Warburton wasn't prepared to work like this, hence his leaving. (I prefer the Steve Cotterril method) I think they will be like us in our second season, decent but not as good as the season gone by, finally finishing 10th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 It will be interesting to see how Brentford perform next season when they start using the chairman, Mathew Benham's, mathematical modelling method. Players will be recruited using statistical analysis of their performance and statistics will be used to tell the new head coach, not manger, what to say at half time. Benham has already tried this with a club in Denmark and performance is measured by analysts in a gantry. The coach is sent a series of text messages just before half time telling him how players have performed and he has to use this as the basis of the half time team talk. Warburton wasn't prepared to work like this, hence his leaving. (I prefer the Steve Cotterril method) Anyone seen Moneyball with Brad Pitt? Sounds like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 It will be interesting to see how Brentford perform next season when they start using the chairman, Mathew Benham's, mathematical modelling method. Players will be recruited using statistical analysis of their performance and statistics will be used to tell the new head coach, not manger, what to say at half time. Benham has already tried this with a club in Denmark and performance is measured by analysts in a gantry. The coach is sent a series of text messages just before half time telling him how players have performed and he has to use this as the basis of the half time team talk. Warburton wasn't prepared to work like this, hence his leaving. (I prefer the Steve Cotterril method) And this is why I think it will work for them....they are doing something different. Clubs who have done well in this division recently, have carried momentum or recruited very wisely. The Championship is full of teams who have players just doing the rounds....you've only got to look at some very big Clubs in this division, who suffer from players just collecting a wage. Having a team of fit, young hungry players, with nothing to lose and everything to gain, playing for one another like this season and you'll do well. I've bet on us to go up again...just like I bet on us to win the league this past season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Cider Ed Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I find it amazing that anyone would have a punt on that before the transfer window is even open, and before we know who the last two teams will be. They must do since they always put up odds this early though. Ridiculous. Not a dig at the OP btw. It's interesting to see that we're obviously well thought of. This is the time you will find some value though. City were 18/1 for a short period about this time last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'm more surprised to see Brentford so high. Warburton is a good manager so they'll have a tough time replacing him. Looks like Martin Jol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Looks like Martin Jol. Interesting - I rate Jol but feel Warburton was a good fit. I like how Brentford are run but will be interesting to see how/if they sustain their upward progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I like how Brentford are run but will be interesting to see how/if they sustain their upward progress. The new 20,000 capacity stadium they are building at Kew Bridge will help. Like us, they are upwardly mobile at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 The new 20,000 capacity stadium they are building at Kew Bridge will help. Like us, they are upwardly mobile at the moment. They recruit well too, not out of their means but still bringing in quality. Being in London no doubt helps with recruitment though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Blimey those bookies must think we got Messi lined up We have, but on matchday he wears a wig and goes by the name of Luke Freeman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Rowett has done exceptionally well but their squad is still far away from being considered a title winning side, for me anyway. To be fair, I didn't say they were going to win the league! They beat a few teams around the bottom 1-0 when they had nothing to play for...I hardly think they can be described as having momentum going into next season based on that. Plus they are a basket case in terms of finances and how they are run. So, they beat who was put in front of them, on a consistent basis. I'd say that's pretty much all you can do, and I'd also go as far to say there is some momentum there....agree with the last part completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Gas 2nd fav's behind Pompy..........http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/league-2/next-season-winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Birmingham had a decent finish to the season 28/1 looks a decent bet. If Birmingham win the league I'll run naked down the waterfront. Save your money. Not gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'd wait til you can get odds on a double of Birmingham as champions with JET as the league's top scorer for them personally.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 We're probably only that high up due to how many teams have done the double promotion in recent years and how easily we won the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Come on Eileen Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I would expect all of Ipswich, Wolves, QPR, Forest, Brighton and Blackburn to finish above us. I'd love to be wrong though. Good call, not so sure about Brighton or Blackburn, but I do think the odds flatter us and are probably in expectation of some big money signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I would expect all of Ipswich, Wolves, QPR, Forest, Brighton and Blackburn to finish above us. I'd love to be wrong though. You will be don't worry. Surprised to see Burnley with such odds.. think they will be top half at best. City will finish 2nd.. said it before, saying it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtonboy Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'd wait til you can get odds on a double of Birmingham as champions with JET as the league's top scorer for them personally.. Ha ha! Brum will be lucky to get half a season out of him ( if he signs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFiGO!?! Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 We have, but on matchday he wears a wig and goes by the name of Luke Freeman.I was glad to see Barca's answer to Luke Freeman the other night. Pique's party pah bring your continental shit. He said no no no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City1984 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 16's at this point is screaming at me to lay. Wont take much movement to start the new season with a gert big green screen. Some interesting angles in that lot for some longer term trading positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastonboy Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 16's at this point is screaming at me to lay. Wont take much movement to start the new season with a gert big green screen. Some interesting angles in that lot for some longer term trading positions. What does that mean in English mucker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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eastonboy Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Cheers!!! Now clear as a bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 16's at this point is screaming at me to lay. Wont take much movement to start the new season with a gert big green screen.Some interesting angles in that lot for some longer term trading positions. There aren't. This is one bookmaker's first hack at some prices with a bucket load of margin and not even a complete field of runners. I wouldn't be at all surprised, in fact I'd say it's odds on, that all teams will be bigger prices than shown there to win the league when a proper exchange market forms. Yes, absolutely 16s would be a lay, but you can't lay when there's no market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City1984 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 There aren't. This is one bookmaker's first hack at some prices with a bucket load of margin and not even a complete field of runners. I wouldn't be at all surprised, in fact I'd say it's odds on, that all teams will be bigger prices than shown there to win the league when a proper exchange market forms. Yes, absolutely 16s would be a lay, but you can't lay when there's no market. Quite correct. I was speaking hypothetically and have not even looked at the exchanges or bookmakers but simply commenting on the odds quoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I find it amazing that anyone would have a punt on that before the transfer window is even open, and before we know who the last two teams will be. They must do since they always put up odds this early though. Ridiculous. Not a dig at the OP btw. It's interesting to see that we're obviously well thought of. I put a bet on city last season before any signings had been made and was glad I had a punt!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Quite correct. I was speaking hypothetically and have not even looked at the exchanges or bookmakers but simply commenting on the odds quoted. Fair enough As you were everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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