Monkeh Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Cant agree with you on Williams, he is the best defender here positional and distribution wise, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Distribution I could kind of agree sometimes he has poor games with his passing but they are very few and far between. Positioning I don't think he gets caught out of position at all I think that is one of his strong points. I would expect city to bring in a centre half who can play left sided yes, but he's only 21/22. Going to struggle to get someone that young to compete for his place IMO. Well, we seem to agree his is a position City are likely to strengthen. I don't expect Cotts. to sign players to sit on the bench, they'll need to be of the standard to actively challenge what we've already got. It's then up to Williams - like every other player - to prove he's got what it takes to deserve to remain the first choice, and, who knows, he may well do just that. But I do expect the competition brought in for his position to be very strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Cant agree with you on Williams, he is the best defender here positional and distribution wise, You're right, we won't agree. For me he's the least accomplished of the 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Williams has never played in the Championship, has he? Nope...but he's played in the Prem for Villa ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Nope...but he's played in the Prem for Villa ;-) True. Once, came on as a sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Williams has never played in the Championship, has he? Nether has flint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 True. Once, came on as a sub. In the team that won this tournament too ;-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%9313_NextGen_Series Not too shabby...very underated player imho...goes about his job without fuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS30 Reds Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 I only say we will bring someone in as the only other cover we have is Cunningham who wouldn't be trusted there if Williams was injured for a long period of time. I do disagree and I would probably go out on a limb and say that i'm the most confident in Williams out of our back 3 to be able to handle championship football. Well, we seem to agree his is a position City are likely to strengthen. I don't expect Cotts. to sign players to sit on the bench, they'll need to be of the standard to actively challenge what we've already got. It's then up to Williams - like every other player - to prove he's got what it takes to deserve to remain the first choice, and, who knows, he may well do just that. But I do expect the competition brought in for his position to be very strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Nether has flint No, but we're discussing Williams and I was particularly responding to devoncider's assertion that he 'is a very solid Championship player.' The difference with Flint is he was outstanding in just about every game last season, so we can have a reasonable confidence he will at least comfortably hold his own one division up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityFarAndWide Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 I am still unsure of what my own expectations are for us next season however if we had the front line that is suggested above I don't think it would be good enough even for a moderate/realistic expectation (consolidation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 I do disagree and I would probably go out on a limb and say that i'm the most confident in Williams out of our back 3 to be able to handle championship football. Fair enough BS30, it's all about opinions and it'll be interesting to see how Williams responds to increased competition next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 No, but we're discussing Williams and I was particularly responding to devoncider's assertion that he 'is a very solid Championship player.' The difference with Flint is he was outstanding in just about every game last season, so we can have a reasonable confidence he will at least comfortably hold his own one division up. But so was Williams he never had a poor game Last season ether Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flintsaysnonono Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Williams hardly put a foot wrong all season... and thinking of trying to replace him? He young, Hungry for football and enjoying being at City... has a good partnership with Flint and Bryan... if its not broken then do not fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devoncider Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Williams has never played in the Championship, has he? No he has not. What I meant was in terms of the standard I feel he is - that of a competent Championship player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devoncider Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 For me Williams is a classy CB, does everything right and often without due credit, a no frills kinda player. He's still learning and I really think if not the sky, certainly high clouds are the limit for this guy - we haven't seen the best of him yet. Top end Championship player/lower end Prem player as and when he peaks IMHO. Only Caulker sticks out in my mind as a better defender in my time at the gate (2001 onwards) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 I am happier with Williams in the team than I was with Liam Fontaine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devoncider Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 I am happier with Williams in the team than I was with Liam Fontaine! You & me both Bat Fastard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJH Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 We're going to need more than 4 Centre Halfs is we're playing 3 at the back, allowing for injuries and such (admittedly we were quite lucky last season.) And not sure Osborne is Championship quality, and I'd arguably sign a new left sided Centre Half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 I am happier with Williams in the team than I was with Liam Fontaine! No brainer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 I don't see why people are writing Williams off he's only 22 and featured in the most successful defence last season. He brings us very good balance with him and Ayling both ball playing defenders either side of Flint who is more of our no nonsense get it away or give it to one of our better ball players. Osbourne is decent with the ball at his feet aswell, we need another young guy in the same mould as Flint I feel, a no nonsense defender, who can step into that position if Flint gets injured or ( unthinkably) loses form. 5 centre backs should be enough as Ayling and Williams injury records have been very good for us and as said before Cunningham can play that left sided ball playing centre back if needed! It's no secret we are after a goalkeeper someone with competition to Fielding so we should expect to see that improved. Joe Bryan is key to this clubs future, if we want to to his continuous improvement he will stay as left wing back starter with Cunningham backup. Right wing back is tricky, Mark Little I feel as good as he was in League one, may not be quite the rounded player for the championship, I would like to see us try to get Tavernier, or Kane as someone mentioned before, to compete for that starting berth. Central midfield is difficult, Smith for me is seen as a key part of the future of this team and will continue from where he left off last season but who he plays with is difficult. Pack has never played before in the championship, and it remains to be seen if he is of the quality of it, but is clearly in the managers future plans after his contract extension. I would hope to see us sign another player to give Pack good competition, as well as a solid defensive midfielder for more tricky opposition this season. In the hole seems simple Freeman should continue where he left off, it is hard to see anyone wanting to come to us and just sit behind him all season. Up front is tricky, Agard has never featured in the championship but will be there to compete with whatever other striker we sign in the goal scorer mould, and I would expect to see another target man brought in to provide competition for Wilbraham. (Gallagher/Smith?) I feel that Bryan, Smith and Freeman, are KEY parts of our future, and will even be parts of our team if we managed to reach the prem In the next few years. Williams, Ayling, Flint, Pack also have very important futures with us I feel and seem to be enjoying life here and working hard. I would also like to see us continue in a similar transfer strategy of the last few summers, mainly players under 24 that we can develop. So for me my shopping list would be: 1XGoalkeeper 1xYoung no nonsense Centre Back 1xRight Wing Back 1x Defensive Midfielder 1x Centre Midfielder 1xStriker (Goalscorer mould) 1xYoung Target Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Didn't cotts say he was better then Cahill was when Cahill was Williams age? He should know he is his coach and has coached both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Anyone know if we've got a fresh batch of young players ready to challenge for a place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Talking of players that seem to have been written off, it seems strange that someone who could potentially be sharing the field with Gareth Bale, Aaron Ramsey etc, is being dismissed as not good enough for our squad. http://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/article/burns-trains-with-wales-senior-squad-2481478.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tins Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Talking of players that seem to have been written off, it seems strange that someone who could potentially be sharing the field with Gareth Bale, Aaron Ramsey etc, is being dismissed as not good enough for our squad. http://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/article/burns-trains-with-wales-senior-squad-2481478.aspx On the other hand Wales have a very poor pool of strikers to choose from! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristolCity!!! Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 First 11: Fielding (dont understand why we need another GK Fielding played every min last season and we can get a emergency GK loan any time so dont see the point). Ayling, Flint, Williams--Young/Hungry/Decent Little, Smith, Darren Ambrose(Elliot's Replacement),Bryan Freeman--Except Ambrose all as above Ambrose adds that bit of class and been there done it. Smith(our big signing), Agard(hope not nice to see us sign a new Maynard from somewhere) Where will we finish? 10th-14th. Would be a good first season back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappers Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Think our signings will be carefully thought out, balance of old pros, and younger promising players, and all with a definite plan, not just clubs in bag. Stick with what worked, and look longer term too. One name I have heard is Lee Camp from Bournemouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresaGreen Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 One name I have heard is Lee Camp from Bournemouth. Oh you read the evening post then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon uk Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 I am happier with Williams in the team than I was with Liam Fontaine! They sure do look similar though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon uk Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 As an aside, every summer on here there is usually huge panic, which whips into a frenzy about who we haven't brought in yet, but this year it doesn't seem to be happening! I kinda miss it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Difference is Williams can definitely become a good premiership quality cb. We have a real gem in him and took advantage of a rare case of a very good youngster at a premier club wanting game time to progress their career but couldn't see it where he was. It is a must to hang on to him of which I think we will have no problem as I think he loves playing for us. I hope we tie him up until 2019 too. I genuinely believe Flint, ayling and Williams could hold their own up until the premiership as they all have the potential to get better and grow as a unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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