Barrs Court Red Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 The freedom hating commie is even less electable than Red Ed, but seems set to win a landslide over Andy Burnham, a man who I could easily see as Prime Minister. Why? I just can't understand the shortsightedness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 The freedom hating commie is even less electable than Red Ed, but seems set to win a landslide over Andy Burnham, a man who I could easily see as Prime Minister.Why? I just can't understand the shortsightedness.Can't say I know a load about politics but wasn't AB involved in the fight for justice for Hillsborough seemed a really decent bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Whilst my politics are generally right of centre on most issues (with the exception of workers rights, which I am with Lenin), it is such a shame that the Tories will have zero opposition electorally if this man gets elected as Labour leader. There is going to be a political vacuum - and THAT can be quite dangerous for all sorts of reasons. TFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 P.S. Am I the only person who thinks Liz Kendal is a 'bit of a fox'?? TFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 The freedom hating commie is even less electable than Red Ed, but seems set to win a landslide over Andy Burnham, a man who I could easily see as Prime Minister. Why? I just can't understand the shortsightedness. I think the point they're missing is that it's futile (whatever your political persuasion) appointing a man/woman who appeals purely to your core vote and core values. As a socialist (though not a Labour Party member by any means) his anti-austerity position is refreshing because it's the first time someone from a major party has actually gone against the grain and suggested there might be a different way of running the economy other than cutting public expenditure to the bone and facilitating 'wealth creation' in the richest 5%. Outside of that though, his plans are financially unsustainable and his brand of politics appeals only to Labour Party members so will simply result in a stronger Tory party. I'd personally like to see Burnham win but with Corbyn and his outlook given a bit more consideration than Millibands method of simply reacting to everything the Tories did with a slightly less right wing mirror policy. His 'Red Ed' tag is laughable in retrospect when you look at what he proposed to do and most of his policies, when it all shook down he was more right wing than Blair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 "Mmmmmmmm". TFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jimmer Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 After another 4 years of Conservatives I actually think that Corbyn will have a pretty strong case for the average British voter. At the rate we are going in 2020 this country is going to be a pretty bleak place for young people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 P.S. Am I the only person who thinks Liz Kendal is a 'bit of a fox'?? TFRI would but that's not saying a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Anyone remember the Michael Foot era for Labour? Corbyn wins and it'll be a Tory Government for the next 15 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CyderInACan Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Isn't that the case for internal voting for any political party? I'd hope (though as I type this I realise how stupid it sounds) that people wouldn't be so petty as to interfere with an organisations internal democratic processes in that way I think the tories vote within the parliamentary party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshy Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 I've thought for some time that the Lib Dems have a wonderful opportunity to move into the slightly left of centre slot that Labour seems intent on abandoning, if only they had the drive to do it. Unfortunately for them they have just elected as leader yet another politician with a background of university, lecturing, councillor etc. and no experience of the world of business. To boot he is another religious nutter, Lord give me strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 P.S. Am I the only person who thinks Liz Kendal is a 'bit of a fox'?? TFR No, I definitely would! As for Corbyn - I'd love to know how many of the new Labour party members are actually Labour. It's a cluster**** we've got coming up, Tories will have free reign to do whatever the hell they want. Gulp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Too old, although we need experience in midfield we should aim higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Be good to have a non-self-serving, conviction politician in a powerful position at Westminster. He probably is unelectable in terms of a General Election but at least it will be refreshing to hear someone properly get stuck in to the Tories, the super-rich, war-mongerers etc and stick up for the public sector, which is currently being decimated. I predict he'll actually strike a lot of chords with a lot of people over the above issues, but the right-wing media are going to abolsutely tear him a new one unfortunately and a fair few of his views are a little idealistic and not backed up with enough substance at the moment. He'll be interested at least, unlike Miliband. Burnham unfortunately comes across as ponderous and dull, though total respect to him for opening the Hillsborough inquiry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Be good to have a non-self-serving, conviction politician in a powerful position at Westminster. He probably is unelectable in terms of a General Election but at least it will be refreshing to hear someone properly get stuck in to the Tories, the super-rich, war-mongerers etc and stick up for the public sector, which is currently being decimated. I predict he'll actually strike a lot of chords with a lot of people over the above issues, but the right-wing media are going to abolsutely tear him a new one unfortunately and a fair few of his views are a little idealistic and not backed up with enough substance at the moment. He'll be interested at least, unlike Miliband. Burnham unfortunately comes across as ponderous and dull, though total respect to him for opening the Hillsborough inquiry. I fail to see how any of what you describe is going to help the public in any way shape or form, it's the labour party eating itself once more and managing to find the most unelectable leader imaginable twice in a row AGAIN!, just like Foot and Kinnock revisited, you sadly couldn't make it up, the tory press will savage him from arsehole to breakfast time, from his perceived terrorist appeasement to his perceived anti semitism and with Gorgeous George Galloway threatening a return to the labour party, the party's over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Seems that all the major unions are backing him and with the all the militant left members jumping on board for the price of a pint each, it seems he's unstoppable. It's not good for the country & it's certainly not good for the labour party. On the other hand, it IS refreshing to see someone who's not a media-trained luvvy and who says what they think (whether it's the current cause celebre or not) actually enjoy their moment in the sun.The ABC campaign is split so I think he's going to win in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 ....... I've always liked brunettes, if I'm honest ........... TFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Seems that all the major unions are backing him and with the all the militant left members jumping on board for the price of a pint each, it seems he's unstoppable. It's not good for the country & it's certainly not good for the labour party. On the other hand, it IS refreshing to see someone who's not a media-trained luvvy and who says what they think (whether it's the current cause celebre or not) actually enjoy their moment in the sun.The ABC campaign is split so I think he's going to win in the first round. All great how about somebody who can actually win the next election?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Seems that all the major unions are backing him and with the all the militant left members jumping on board for the price of a pint each, it seems he's unstoppable. It's not good for the country & it's certainly not good for the labour party. On the other hand, it IS refreshing to see someone who's not a media-trained luvvy and who says what they think (whether it's the current cause celebre or not) actually enjoy their moment in the sun.The ABC campaign is split so I think he's going to win in the first round. And a fair few Tories also, it would seem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 And a fair few Tories also, it would seem! Yes, probably; that's why the rules are ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Yes, probably; that's why the rules are ridiculous! Another great decision by the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Apparently Putin is happy!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 I fail to see how any of what you describe is going to help the public in any way shape or form, it's the labour party eating itself once more and managing to find the most unelectable leader imaginable twice in a row AGAIN!, just like Foot and Kinnock revisited, you sadly couldn't make it up, the tory press will savage him from arsehole to breakfast time, from his perceived terrorist appeasement to his perceived anti semitism and with Gorgeous George Galloway threatening a return to the labour party, the party's over. Foot and Kinnock before my time I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Foot and Kinnock before my time I'm afraid. Substitute Foot for Corbyn and Miliband for Kinnock and the picture should become clear, unelectable but hey the labour knows best. Corbyn will strike a cord but when the choice comes, they will not trust him, Britain would be crippled by strikes just like socialist France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Foot and Kinnock before my time I'm afraid. Shame that, as you missed a barrel of laughs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Foot and Kinnock before my time I'm afraid. I would politely suggest you read up on both of them. Both of those idiots were prepared to unilaterally dispose of our nuclear deterrent, right when the cold war was at it's height, without any agreement from the Soviet Union (who had hundreds of warheads aimed at us at the time), making any commitment to do likewise. Perhaps they were happy for a communist takeover of this country - who knows ? Foot was a complete joke; the people of this country would never vote for him, and his disastrous election campaign of 1983 was proof of that, the worst Labour general election result of all time, from memory. Sending Britain back to the '70's where our economy was crippled by strikes was never going to happen. The same applies today, with Corbyn intent on the same objectives. Kinnochio eventually saw the light and tried to move Labour back to the middle ground, but he was tainted, and was never trusted again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Substitute Foot for Corbyn and Miliband for Kinnock and the picture should become clear, unelectable but hey the labour knows best. Corbyn will strike a chord but when the choice comes, they will not trust him, Britain would be crippled by strikes just like socialist France. Of course he will and they (the Labour party) will most probably vote him in (hope the Tories, fingers crossed). Surely there is no way, however, that the populace would Labour in on such a ticket: firstly, the Labour party would be diluted by defections (Burnham, Cooper and many others) and, despite the eager votes of our new arrivals to these shores, the old Labour vote would be dispersed so widely that the Tories would win with a landslide. Here's hoping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Perhaps if the other three stopped singing from the same hymn sheet then Corbyn would not be so far in front. All the others are pro austerity, pro trident renewal and are as bland as a glass of soft water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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