BS4 on Tour... Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 ......just in case anyone wants to vote http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/north-london-birmingham-tyne-wear-6493531 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Think i would have to go with the Glasgow derby, a whole new level of hatred.......fuelled by religion suprise suprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Liverpool and United Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Old Firm for me. In lower league English football though ours is right up there with the fiercest. What can often be a fairly mundane atmosphere at AG always becomes a different beast on derby day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Liverpool and Unitedput your Scouse tinted glasses away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedJim Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Old Firm goes far beyond football, by far the biggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Bill Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Wimbledon and MK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 ......just in case anyone wants to vote http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/north-london-birmingham-tyne-wear-6493531How old is that photo?Pitch invasion? …it reminded me of Horse of the Year Show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Predictably and self indulgently, all the Man U and Liverpool fans in Sussex and Surrey and have voted for Manchester Red *****s v Liverpool Red *******Old Firm is one of the biggest derby matches in the world, let alone the UK. Man U v Liverpool is like a children's tea party in comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 put your Scouse tinted glasses away!Been to a couple and by far the worst I have seen. Bristol derby doesn't even compare. Old firm maybe but only judging on ones I have been too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 put your Scouse tinted glasses away!What do you mean??? It's the match all us neutrals look forward to the most don't you know!..... I'm only a neutral as I despise them both with equal measure. Has to be the old Firm derby. I'd also make a case for Newcastle v Sunderland being up there as it remains particularly hostile even with Skys TV cameras pointing at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Southampton and Portsmouth is pretty tasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Yes they're cartoons, but they are angry cartoonsStopped reading at that point - **** me, no wonder I rarely buy a newspaper any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsham Ed Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I can't see me and the wife on that list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Mangotsfield v Yate can be pretty nasty too, no segregation of crowds at that level. My predictive text actually changed Yate to Hate, so even my tablet made in Asia agrees by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 What a joke that poll is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Massively over hyped by the media, these days their games are snore fests with zero atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Massively over hyped by the media, these days their games are snore fests with zero atmosphere.Most of these games are a bore in fairness and def over hyped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChubStixx Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Man U and Liverpool?? Two clubs in two different cities. The plastics have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Ken Barlow and Mike Baldwin used to get really heated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Man U and Liverpool?? Two clubs in two different cities. The plastics have no idea. if only their fans were from just two cities.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vespa Red Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Had the "pleasure" of spending my holidays in the early to mid 80s up in Derbyshire (my sister was living just outside Derby at the time). There was a small domestic dispute at the time across the border with Nottinghamshire due to the miner's strike and union affiliation. Since that time, the games between Mansfield and Chesterfield became things of true hatred as I understand they can be to this day. To a lesser extent were the Hereford v Shrewsbury games although for different reasons. Neither got a mention in the article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Been to a couple and by far the worst I have seen. Bristol derby doesn't even compare. Old firm maybe but only judging on ones I have been too.weird as Livrpool don't really have any thing in the way of an active firm.Try Leeds v United, that's tasty, but the best one I've ever seen is Arbroath v Montrose, let's just say the amount of horse shit on the pitch was on a par with how many casualties had been hit with a brick or coin.Liverpool, :laugh:. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Southampton and Portsmouth is pretty tasty.Southampton are just gobby, any chance of trouble and they're gone, get what you're saying though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs3 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Arson, players houses vandalised ,players being attacked, pitch invasion , mass fights at Sunday morning football matches when hundreds of fans of both clubs turn up.Pubs being in smashed up during midweek. Every time the two clubs meet there is serious disorder. Fans fighting each other when watching England . Fans fighting each other in pubs and nightclubs each week . Fans fighting each other when on holiday in Spain.Ladies and Gentlemen I give you the Bristol Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finbarr_in_z Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Had the "pleasure" of spending my holidays in the early to mid 80s up in Derbyshire (my sister was living just outside Derby at the time). There was a small domestic dispute at the time across the border with Nottinghamshire due to the miner's strike and union affiliation. Since that time, the games between Mansfield and Chesterfield became things of true hatred as I understand they can be to this day. Went to one of these at Saltergate as a neutral in the early 1990's. Got to the top of the hill where the ground is & there was a massive brawl going on right in the middle of the road. Most of the locals seemed to accept that's what happens before these games. In the ground the atmosphere was absolutely electric. Never been to anything quite like it. Obviously the events of the mid-80's were still raw.Went again only a few years ago, and although not as bad (mainly kids not even born during the miners strike), it still was pretty tasty.This is a rivalry beyond football. It's about split communities and back stabbing. Very nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmabbuttshair Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Millwall v West ham Dundee v Dundee utd Cardiff city v Swansea city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodbarmyarmy Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Linfield v GlentoranMet a jolly nice chap from Belfast up at Middlesboro ... (of all places)Apart from popping over time to time to see Boro or Rangers, his main team are Linfield & over several pints before the game we discussed many things one of which was Ivan Sproule who now plays for Linfield and apparently is a hero because he scored a late winner against their arch enemies Glentoran ...I was amazed to hear of the hatred between these two Belfast teams - nothing to do with religion, they are both Proddy - just has to do with one being from North Belfast and one from East Belfast so purely territorial .... a true derbyHe made the game sound so appetising that I may just wander over there next time and take in the very heated atmos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Man Utd & Liverpool: Bristol City & Bristol Rovers: Looking at the current results, it's bullshit. Not saying our rivalry is the 'fiercest', but just google both teams names together and you'll find a differing contrast of pictures. Man U & Liverpool has the danger of throwing prawn sandwiches in comparison to how things are passionate and 'feisty' when Bristol City & Rovers meet. So what I'm saying is that survey has got some well manufactured and unmeasured bias Me, personally - from that list I'd say Millwall v W'Ham has got to be up there. None of this plastic 'rivalry' you come across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Man Utd & Liverpool: Bristol City & Bristol Rovers: Looking at the current results, it's bullshit. Not saying our rivalry is the 'fiercest', but just google both teams names together and you'll find a differing contrast of pictures. Man U & Liverpool has the danger of throwing prawn sandwiches in comparison to how things are passionate and 'feisty' when Bristol City & Rovers meet. So what I'm saying is that survey has got some well manufactured and unmeasured bias Me, personally - from that list I'd say Millwall v W'Ham has got to be up there. None of this plastic 'rivalry' you come across.Like I said I have been to both and Bristol is pretty tame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Cardiff and Swansea would have to be up there.Mind you, everybody hates everybody in Wales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 No mention of Preston/blackpool, Blackburn/Burnley etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 No mention of Preston/blackpool, Blackburn/Burnley etcHave some mates who follow Blackburn, they tell me the Burnley game is absolute bedlam. Quite tempted to go up with them some time to see what it's all about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Have some mates who follow Blackburn, they tell me the Burnley game is absolute bedlam. Quite tempted to go up with them some time to see what it's all aboutMark Hughes, who (as I'm sure you know) played in many big derbies for multiple different clubs, described it something along the lines of "the maddest derby ever" when he was Blackburn manager.People forget how close their grounds are and how much history there is between them, not only as football clubs but towns as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 No mention of Preston/blackpool, Blackburn/Burnley etcPretty nuts by all accounts. But the papers don't care about those teams, as they're not in the Premiershit.Man Utd vs Liverpool is frankly not even close.As for the North London derby, that's a Vicar's tea party. Went to a Bristol derby at the 'Gate in the 90s (the one on Sky, 1-1, kicked off at end) and the Arsenal fan I was with admitted the North London affair wasn't even close.Now, some of the South London derbies - Millwall vs West Spam, pretty much anyone vs Palarse...hmmm Oh - and Swindle vs Oxford is pretty fierce But none of these compare to some of the Turkish, Italian or South American games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Think i would have to go with the Glasgow derby, a whole new level of hatred.......fuelled by religion suprise suprise.Fuelled by a hatred of difference.Put the average Rangers or Celtic fan on Mastermind with their specialist subject "My own religion" and they'd know **** all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Fuelled by a hatred of difference.Put the average Rangers or Celtic fan on Mastermind with their specialist subject "My own religion" and they'd know **** all.Absolutely, same could be said for any conflict based around religion. " My make believe God is better than your make believe God " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Mark Hughes, who (as I'm sure you know) played in many big derbies for multiple different clubs, described it something along the lines of "the maddest derby ever" when he was Blackburn manager.People forget how close their grounds are and how much history there is between them, not only as football clubs but towns as a whole.That makes it sound even more inviting. Nothing better as a neutral to watch other people get all wound up about something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Absolutely, same could be said for any conflict based around religion. " My make believe God is better than your make believe God " Surely Rangers and Celtic are actually both fans of the same God, but just have different ways of expressing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Surely Rangers and Celtic are actually both fans of the same God, but just have different ways of expressing it?obviously not, or they would all get along wonderfully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quedgeley Exile Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 This subject gets brought up every year some paper to sell copies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRIAN WILSON Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Millwall v West ham ANYONE Dundee v Dundee utd Cardiff city v Swansea city There you go mate, I have fixed it for you ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 St George School v Speedwell School back in the day was very tasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Merrywood v Hartcliffe also..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gornagain Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 What was FGR v Cheltenham like the other night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Think i would have to go with the Glasgow derby, a whole new level of hatred.......fuelled by religion suprise suprise.Hearts and Hibs have the same divide - not as well publicised though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 What was FGR v Cheltenham like the other night?Here's a photo from the crowd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Southampton and Portsmouth is pretty tasty.To many people's surprise so are Mansfield v Chesterfield and Southend v Colchester.Last time Chester played Wrexham in the Football league, the Police moved the kick off to mid day and increased their presence at the ground. Looking further afield; the Belfast rivals Glentorran v Linfield. It's usually shown on Sky and you see fans at one end waving Irish tricolours and Ulster Volunteer Force banners at the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 To many people's surprise so are Mansfield v Chesterfield and Southend v Colchester.Last time Chester played Wrexham in the Football league, the Police moved the kick off to mid day and increased their presence at the ground. Looking further afield; the Belfast rivals Glentorran v Linfield. It's usually shown on Sky and you see fans at one end waving Irish tricolours and Ulster Volunteer Force banners at the other.Colchester v Wycombe is becoming tasty too!Glentoran and Linfield are both proddy loyalist clubs, it's purely a geographical rivalry, you won't see a tricolour flag at that game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakoe Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Good grief!! Man U v Liverpool tops the poll?? Just proves that there are a lot of people whose opinions are based media hype, and who only ever watch football on sky. All a bit sad really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest caseyeverett300 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Most man united/Liverpool fans are plastic so no real passion only called a big derby because of the premiership and quality of the teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Surely Rangers and Celtic are actually both fans of the same God, but just have different ways of expressing it?I wonder how many actually go to church regularly of a Sunday. Or how many just use it as an excuse to kick off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 What was FGR v Cheltenham like the other night?Tofu everywhere.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Like I said I have been to both and Bristol is pretty tame.7 arrests at the recent Liverpool v Man U game.sounds crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 The Bristol derby is certainly as fierce as pretty much any other in the uk. It obviously isn't as high profile as many of the "big team" games though. If you are talking purely about the nature of the fixture, then it is up there with the fiercest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 The Bristol derby is certainly as fierce as pretty much any other in the uk. It obviously isn't as high profile as many of the "big team" games though. If you are talking purely about the nature of the fixture, then it is up there with the fiercest. Even the Gloster cup games were tasty when I was younger,in fact at times it was absolute mayhem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Celtic v rangers, got to be. Unfortunately when you put religion into the mix you get pure hatred. Remember when rangers signed Jon Daly the Irish (catholic) striker 2 years ago. They booed him and made his life hell. Its on my bucket list to do before I die, Glasgow derby.City v rovers games are bad but probably seem worse than they are because we don't seem to play them very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Celtic v rangers, got to be. Unfortunately when you put religion into the mix you get pure hatred. Remember when rangers signed Jon Daly the Irish (catholic) striker 2 years ago. They booed him and made his life hell. Its on my bucket list to do before I die, Glasgow derby.No they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 No they didn't.yes they did, they also hated the fact he was on 10k a week and was useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 yes they did, they also hated the fact he was on 10k a week and was useless. The latter parts rightly irritated Rangers fans but his life was most certainly not made to be like hell. Not sure where you've got that from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 The latter parts rightly irritated Rangers fans but his life was most certainly not made to be like hell. Not sure where you've got that from.I have a few mates who are rangers season ticket holders so speaking from pretty good knowledge. Also whilst away with England have met many rangers fans who talked about this signing as a stain on there club. I really didn't appreciate the whole religion think, apparently he is only the second catholic to play for rangers. But hey I'm not that bothered to get in a slagging match about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 It all depends on your definition of fierce, is it about noise, passion etc or is it about violence? If you are talking violence then Celtic v Rangers and Hearts v Hibs would be the big two in Scotland. In Wales, Cardiff v Swansea, in England/Wales (not in any order) Millwall v West Ham, Bristol City v Cardiff, Arsenal v Spurs, Man Utd v Leeds, Man Utd v Liverpool, Man Utd v Man City, Chester v Wrexham, Chesterfield v Mansfield, Blackburn v Burnley etc all liable to violence.as for the Bristol derby....we love one another really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red white and red Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Plymouth v Exeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Plymouth v Exeter think Clevedon v Weston super mare is more fierce than Plymouth v Exeter!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Don`t know if it`s down to ground layout or something but it always goes off at Home Park but never at St James. You`d think it would be the other way round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 seem to remember the full back we signed john bailey who had played in the mersy derby many times, and I think played in the Glasgow version for rangers. said our games against the gas was as hostile as he ever played in!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Cardiff/Swansea when they were both crap and in the third division during the days when Thatcher had closed the mines in the mid 80s and through to the 90's was pretty horrendous. Remember several stabbings and all sorts of mischief. Likewise Millwall/West Ham usually goes right off doesn't it.It's more a one way hatred, but Leeds / Man U is pretty ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Cardiff/Swansea when they were both crap and in the third division during the days when Thatcher had closed the mines in the mid 80s and through to the 90's was pretty horrendous. Remember several stabbings and all sorts of mischief. Likewise Millwall/West Ham usually goes right off doesn't it.It's more a one way hatred, but Leeds / Man U is pretty ugly.the away end at the vetch field always felt pretty intimidating!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Rangers-Celtic for sure. Beyond that, ours is up there but Burnley-Blackburn is really quite bitter and though it never happens now, Leeds-Man Utd definitely definitely used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted September 26, 2015 Author Share Posted September 26, 2015 I have a few mates who are rangers season ticket holders so speaking from pretty good knowledge. Also whilst away with England have met many rangers fans who talked about this signing as a stain on there club. I really didn't appreciate the whole religion think, apparently he is only the second catholic to play for rangers. But hey I'm not that bothered to get in a slagging match about it. Rangers fans weren't bothered about Daly's religion: http://sportsnewsireland.com/soccer/soccer_irish/rangers-fans-dont-care-if-jon-daly-is-an-irish-catholic-2013-04-16/ and he certainly didn't get loads of abuse and his life wasn't 'made to be hell'And Rangers have had far more than 2 Catholics play for them. I could reel off a list of around 17 but the most high profile are John Spencer, Mo Johnston and Lorenzo Amaruso who captained the club.Not sure where you are getting all these Rangers 'facts' from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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