crusader Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Johnston better than Cotts, said this long before our promotion last yearhowever too soon to sack Cotts on the basis our players arent good enough therefore Cotts will struggle for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamski Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Johnson did a good job for us, but his inability to build a decent midfield once we got up was his downfall, our lack of goals was a real issue, much of this can be put down lack of creativity in the mid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Alan Dicks on that basis.Or Harry Thickett? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Cough - Henry Thickett - cough. Second in the top league and lost 1-0 in the FA cup final.True but Harry Thickett is dead, so he'd be a controversial choice for our next manager, though on reflection we gave it to Coppell once and for all the interest he showed in it, he may as well have been.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 True but Harry Thickett is dead, so he'd be a controversial choice for our next manager, though on reflection we gave it to Coppell once and for all the interest he showed in it, he may as well have been..True Gray. We tried the living dead though with our last manager... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 True but Harry Thickett is dead, so he'd be a controversial choice for our next manager, though on reflection we gave it to Coppell once and for all the interest he showed in it, he may as well have been..Ever wonder if it was watching David James in training that made him scarper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_merde Posted October 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 I've never felt the way watching Bristol City as Gary Johnson made me feel.Genuinely the greatest the club has ever had in the modern era, both for supporters and results.Sure, performance were not always great, but the atmosphere in the club when he was here hasn't been repeated.I wonder if we'll see his like at the club again in my life time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Yep, how often others forget. Still the most successful Bristol City manager.Indeed. Alan Dicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 I've never felt the way watchinFantasticol City as Gary Johnson made me feel.Genuinely the greatest the club has ever had in the modern era, both for supporters and results.Sure, performance were not always great, but the atmosphere in the club when he was here hasn't been repeated.I wonder if we'll see his like at the club again in my life time.Completely agree with you n-m.Fantastic though the new stadium is/will be,I still thought the East End during that time was absolutely brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Too early?Too silly. Worked well for Yeovil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Who would win between those two teams? (The tactics are different so I've adjusted the 11s slightly)Basso V Fielding = BassoOrr V Little = Orr(Old) Carey V Ayling = draw??McCombe V Flint = draw(Young) Fontaine V Williams = drawMcAllister V Bryan = BryanMarv V Smith = draw??Little Lee V Pack = LeeNoble V Freeman = FreemanMcCindoe V (Bryan) = BryanTrundle V Codger = Codger more effective and will be better long term IMO Very similar teams I think, ability-wise. I'd say this team are marginally more talented but have fewer leaders. Just shows what an unbelievable job GJ did with that team as they could easily have been bottom as we are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Who would win between those two teams? (The tactics are different so I've adjusted the 11s slightly)Basso V Fielding = BassoOrr V Little = Orr(Old) Carey V Ayling = draw??McCombe V Flint = draw(Young) Fontaine V Williams = drawMcAllister V Bryan = BryanMarv V Smith = draw??Little Lee V Pack = LeeNoble V Freeman = FreemanMcCindoe V (Bryan) = BryanTrundle V Codger = Codger more effective and will be better long term IMO Very similar teams I think, ability-wise. I'd say this team are marginally more talented but have fewer leaders. Just shows what an unbelievable job GJ did with that team as they could easily have been bottom as we are now. I tried to do this myself - its really difficult because of the change in formation e.g. judging Little against Orr I think Orr was a better defender but Little is a better footballer. What I did notice about yours was it was 3-3, if I do it and don't allow draws I come up with 8 - 3 in favour of the old team but by the time I get to the last 3 the new team only has 1, which I found interesting as the only person I would have from our current defensive line-up over the old team is Flint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 I tried to do this myself - its really difficult because of the change in formation e.g. judging Little against Orr I think Orr was a better defender but Little is a better footballer. What I did notice about yours was it was 3-3, if I do it and don't allow draws I come up with 8 - 3 in favour of the old team but by the time I get to the last 3 the new team only has 1, which I found interesting as the only person I would have from our current defensive line-up over the old team is Flint. Id have Freeman, codger and Bryan at the least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombsy Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Harry Rednap would be a good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Yep, how often others forget. Still the most successful Bristol City manager.Not even in the top two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webzcas Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Yeah, like Lee J, Styvar, Sproule, Williams...oh, hang on...I give you Styvar. But Ivan was a good player and great in his first season. The pace he had was second to none. Always remember that goal against Southampton. Lee J for all his critics was solid as well. Yes there was dead wood, but under Gary, we had belief and apart from Robbered, the fans were united for a time.Great memories and great times. Gary J is a city legend in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Id have Freeman, codger and Bryan at the leastHave we signed a new player called codger?BassoOrr Carey Flint BryanMurray Marv Smith McIndoeKodjia Trundle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Have we signed a new player called codger? It's what we call in this country "a nickname". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Id have Freeman, codger and Bryan at the leastMine was Freeman, Codger and Flint. I think as a left back McAllister was better than Bryan and as a left winger McCindoe was better than Bryan (I don't think either are better at left wing back - this was close). If we play our current formation then Bryan defiantly gets in there as well which would make it 6 - 4, not sure what else I would change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Yep, how often others forget. Still the most successful Bristol City manager.Nowhere near.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculus Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Have we signed a new player called codger?BassoOrr Carey Flint BryanMurray Marv Smith McIndoeKodjia Trundle Wouldn't have minded seeing Maynard and Kodjia together with Hartley supplying the ammunition. That combination would have taken some stopping..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 GJ most successful City manager? Behave, he is one of the luckiest managers ever I will give you that. Some of his signings were amongst the worst players I have seen play for City and with that came the dire football after the playoff season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Wouldn't have minded seeing Maynard and Kodjia together with Hartley supplying the ammunition. That combination would have taken some stopping.....I would've added both those players, I wasn't too sure if it was just our first season up teams we were comparing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 It's what we call in this country "a nickname".except that's not a nickname, a nickname is a shortened version of the original. It's an attempt to try and be funny by calling him codger when Kodjia is just as easy to write. Same blokes who think calling El Abd, 'El Bad' is hilarious I expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculus Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 I would've added both those players, I wasn't too sure if it was just our first season up teams we were comparing! Whoops - I should read more thoroughly. Seems that 4 at the back seems to be the preferred formation. Personally thought that Basso, Orr, McCombe, Carey and Macallister were the best back 5 unit of ours I've seen. Of the current crop think only Flint could challenge for a place and even then not really sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 For those people saying Johnson is 'nowhere near' the best City manager ever, I'm curious to know who you think has been more successful than a man who secured us back to back promotions and took us to within a whisker of the Premier League, massively defying the odds. But to save time, I'll answer that question for you: there's been only one manager and that's Alan Dicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 For those people saying Johnson is owhere near' the best City manager ever, I'm curious to know who you think has been more successful than a man who secured us back to back promotions and took us to within a whisker of the Premier League, massively defying the odds. But to save time, I'll answer that question for you: there's been only one manager and that's Alan Dicks. Terry Cooper, Joe Jordans first reign and if he keeps us in the league and we progress Steve Cotterill.GJ was a good manager up until the playoff final then he left us in a mess by signing average players on long contracts which held us back for years after his departure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 except that's not a nickname, a nickname is a shortened version of the original. It's an attempt to try and be funny by calling him codger when Kodjia is just as easy to write. Same blokes who think calling El Abd, 'El Bad' is hilarious I expect. No. A nickname means an altenative to the given moniker. It nend not imply it is shorter.In the case of codger, it is not pejorative, so I don't know why anyone would have a problem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Nowhere near....ThickettDicksCooperJohnson I think that's about right. How about for the worst managers? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 except that's not a nickname, a nickname is a shortened version of the original. It's an attempt to try and be funny by calling him codger when Kodjia is just as easy to write. Same blokes who think calling El Abd, 'El Bad' is hilarious I expect. Agree, rubbish. "El Bad", "Swindle", "Florist", "Crapdiff" all terrible. *bin emoji* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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