Bs4Red Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 SOD due to leave Liverpool with Klopps appointment imminent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 SOD due to leave Liverpool with Klopps appointment imminent 100% record while in charge . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 As expected. Where for him next I wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 As expected. Where for him next I wonder.That should have a thread all of it's own. What would be the charismatic SODs next/ ideal job be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 That should have a thread all of it's own. What would be the charismatic SODs next/ ideal job be?Stand up comedian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Rotherham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Stand up comedian?Obviously a deadpan one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Motivational speaking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Probably get another job offer coaching at a Prem or Championship Club...or wherever Rogers ends up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Maybe go back into the youth England set up, the guys an incredible coach just ask the city players about him. Had a long talk with Louis Carey and he said he's the most knowledgeable person he's ever met in regards to deep understanding of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Maybe go back into the youth England set up, the guys an incredible coach just ask the city players about him. Had a long talk with Louis Carey and he said he's the most knowledgeable person he's ever met in regards to deep understanding of the game.Why so small? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Why so small?stupid question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Funeral Home.. or is that too cheerful for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Why so small?That's what she said... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I thought the forum had slowed down again .I'd go for Steve Cotterill, he's a winner ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Maybe go back into the youth England set up, the guys an incredible coach just ask the city players about him. Had a long talk with Louis Carey and he said he's the most knowledgeable person he's ever met in regards to deep understanding of the game.Just a shame we had him when we did....talk to any player that's worked with him and they all say the same thing.Unfortunately he will be remembered by many on here, who only saw the results and what they perceived to be poor football.We didn't have enough time for the transition to take place....Football is a harsh mistress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Just a shame we had him when we did....talk to any player that's worked with him and they all say the same thing.Unfortunately he will be remembered by many on here, who only saw the results and what they perceived to be poor football.We didn't have enough time for the transition to take place....Football is a harsh mistress.Like Cotts now then eh..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Too bad Banksy's Dismaland has closed - it could've done with a miserable SOD as a face painter/trampolinist and part-time quiz master asking stupid questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Maybe go back into the youth England set up, the guys an incredible coach just ask the city players about him. Had a long talk with Louis Carey and he said he's the most knowledgeable person he's ever met in regards to deep understanding of the game.Yeah, let's get him back into his England job that he so happily departed in an instant as soon as Liverpool came calling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Like Cotts now then eh..?Yep...if you don't get the results....regardless of intentions....you get the boot. Too much at stake these days.Yeah, let's get him back into his England job that he so happily departed in an instant as soon as Liverpool came calling...How do you know he wasn't encouraged to go by the FA as it was too good a gig to say no too?Can't believe how so many fans dislike the bloke....he tried his best, worked his socks off behind the scenes...and brought JET here who so many adore.Tried to do the right thing...but results weren't to be....Players were gutted when he went....as they knew it was down to so many individual errors that cost him his job.....Can't understand the hatred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Yep...if you don't get the results....regardless of intentions....you get the boot. Too much at stake these days.How do you know he wasn't encouraged to go by the FA as it was too good a gig to say no too?Can't believe how so many fans dislike the bloke....he tried his best, worked his socks off behind the scenes...and brought JET here who so many adore.Tried to do the right thing...but results weren't to be....Players were gutted when he went....as they knew it was down to so many individual errors that cost him his job.....Can't understand the hatred. leave it!!!!!Or this could be another 10 pager !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rag Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Well what a surprise, never saw that coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Yep...if you don't get the results....regardless of intentions....you get the boot. Too much at stake these days.How do you know he wasn't encouraged to go by the FA as it was too good a gig to say no too?Can't believe how so many fans dislike the bloke....he tried his best, worked his socks off behind the scenes...and brought JET here who so many adore.Tried to do the right thing...but results weren't to be....Players were gutted when he went....as they knew it was down to so many individual errors that cost him his job.....Can't understand the hatred. I don't dislike him. Maybe the FA were happy for him to go. But to me it smacked of a lack of loyalty. And then you see his other half moaning about the way his departure from Liverpool is handled. Loyalty. It's a two way street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 As expected. Where for him next I wonder. Wherever it is, I'd imagine it will be in a coaching role rather than the managers chair. Can't believe he'd be given the top job anywhere given the dreadful runs he took Doncaster and ourselves on. Dreadful football , the away defeat at Wolves (the relegation season) has to rank as one of the worst performances I've ever seen from a City side and 20 odd game runs without a win can't be purely down to bad luck.It does make me laugh that a couple of posters on here put SOD's woes at this club squarely at the feet of the players - "they couldn't follow his instructions properly"Yet when it comes to last week against MK Dons it's the other way round - "the players were following the managers instructions"Obviously Cotterill is better than SOD at getting his players to do what he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TETBURY MASSIVE Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Yep...if you don't get the results....regardless of intentions....you get the boot. Too much at stake these days.How do you know he wasn't encouraged to go by the FA as it was too good a gig to say no too?Can't believe how so many fans dislike the bloke....he tried his best, worked his socks off behind the scenes...and brought JET here who so many adore.Tried to do the right thing...but results weren't to be....Players were gutted when he went....as they knew it was down to so many individual errors that cost him his job.....Can't understand the hatred. Spudski you make me smile.... So loyal until the end... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtonboy Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Spudski you make me smile.... So loyal until the end... It would be nice if it did end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 It would be nice if it did end!I agree....if people stop slagging the bloke off, I wont have to defend him ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Probably get another job offer coaching at a Prem or Championship Club...or wherever Rogers ends up.Can't see SoD coming back here...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I would have thought he would have been right up Klopp's strasse as a coach, just goes to show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I would have thought he would have been right up Klopp's strasse as a coach, just goes to show. Klopp is quite a cheery bloke, 5 minutes with O'Driz is enough to wipe the smile off a childs face on christmas day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Klopp is quite a cheery bloke, 5 minutes with O'Driz is enough to wipe the smile off a childs face on christmas day.5 minutes, water boarding would be kinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockneydave Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I don't dislike him. Maybe the FA were happy for him to go. But to me it smacked of a lack of loyalty. And then you see his other half moaning about the way his departure from Liverpool is handled. Loyalty. It's a two way street.Like Hollowhead with Plymouth111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITW Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 As miserable as his reign with us was he deserves credit for his signings. Fielding, Flint, Williams, Pack and JET (probably missed a couple as well.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Klopp is quite a cheery bloke, 5 minutes with O'Driz is enough to wipe the smile off a childs face on christmas day.Have you ever spent 5 mins talking with SoD?If so, you'll know he's a passionate, dry witted, intelligent man willing to talk with a smile on his face.Journalists spoke to him after frustrating games, and asked the most idiotic questions...mainly ill thought out...and got the response they deserved.Ask the same questions to SC and you get the response you want....a load of football clichés not thought out....words just said to appease the masses and often contradictory.In Media terms....you got the Independent with SoD....you get a mix of Talk Sport and the Sun with SC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 TBF I always enjoyed his programme notes. Used to hate waiting for the inevitable cringeworthy post match interview though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Have you ever spent 5 mins talking with SoD?If so, you'll know he's a passionate, dry witted, intelligent man willing to talk with a smile on his face.Journalists spoke to him after frustrating games, and asked the most idiotic questions...mainly ill thought out...and got the response they deserved.Ask the same questions to SC and you get the response you want....a load of football clichés not thought out....words just said to appease the masses and often contradictory.In Media terms....you got the Independent with SoD....you get a mix of Talk Sport and the Sun with SC.and there you have answered a lot, football is a very simple game as are most of the people who play it, complicate it too much and especially beyond the capabilities of said players and you have a recipe for disaster, even the chosen one is finding that out for the first time in his career.A good coach he maybe but his managerial successes are sparse and well in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 SOD was appointed by Liverpool FC. Like it or not. It is a fact. When the manger go the same goes for the assistant. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 TBF I always enjoyed his programme notes. Used to hate waiting for the inevitable cringeworthy post match interview though.As a fan i likewise liked the way he would happily talk in depth about the inns and outs of tactics and training in football. I even remember him going to a local pub for q&a with fans. As a player though I just can't help think he would confuse me to death as to what I was supposed to do on the field of play and it looked like that on the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 SOD was appointed by Liverpool FC. Like it or not. It is a fact. When the manger go the same goes for the assistant. End of story.Millen/Pemberton.Millen twice at Palarse.So not end of story Tommy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 A professor talking to a bunch of half idiots. What do you expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 and there you have answered a lot, football is a very simple game as are most of the people who play it, complicate it too much and especially beyond the capabilities of said players and you have a recipe for disaster, even the chosen one is finding that out for the first time in his career.A good coach he maybe but his managerial successes are sparse and well in the past. I agree EMB...imho, he is a better Coach than manager.However....when talking to players, he used laymans terms that everyone understood.As a previous poster mentioned, Louis Carey praised him, as does every other player ive spoken to about him.He wouldn't be employed if footballers couldn't understand him.Half the problem with players, isn't the understanding....it's their technical ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Stupid questions are stupid questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Have you ever spent 5 mins talking with SoD?If so, you'll know he's a passionate, dry witted, intelligent man willing to talk with a smile on his face.Journalists spoke to him after frustrating games, and asked the most idiotic questions...mainly ill thought out...and got the response they deserved.Ask the same questions to SC and you get the response you want....a load of football clichés not thought out....words just said to appease the masses and often contradictory.In Media terms....you got the Independent with SoD....you get a mix of Talk Sport and the Sun with SC.Still in love? Awwwww... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I agree EMB...imho, he is a better Coach than manager.However....when talking to players, he used laymans terms that everyone understood.As a previous poster mentioned, Louis Carey praised him, as does every other player ive spoken to about him.He wouldn't be employed if footballers couldn't understand him.Half the problem with players, isn't the understanding....it's their technical ability.Sadly Liverpool looked as bewildered as a team as City did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Sadly Liverpool looked as bewildered as a team as City did. Hardly fair EMB....as Rogers said....Team in transition. And SoD has hardly been their 5 mins.Can't say 3 wins, 3 draws and 2 losses is a bad return.This season the Prem seems to have levelled out a little....many teams beating one another. And look at Chelsea.The only team doing a 'City' is Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Hardly fair EMB....as Rogers said....Team in transition. And SoD has hardly been their 5 mins.Can't say 3 wins, 3 draws and 2 losses is a bad return.This season the Prem seems to have levelled out a little....many teams beating one another. And look at Chelsea.The only team doing a 'City' is Newcastle. it's a bad return for Liverpool, regardless of their transition they looked a totally bewildered team, ask Screech he's a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I agree with Robbored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 A professor talking to a bunch of half idiots. What do you expect?If that is some sort of defence it's, to my mind, completely flawed. Effective communication maketh the leader. I firmly believe, and I can't think of a compelling argument otherwise, that you can have every other attribute under the sun but without effective communication you're simply a crap leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 it's a bad return for Liverpool, regardless of their transition they looked a totally bewildered team, ask Screech he's a fan.You don't have to be a fan to see they were trying to change things.Can't believe you think it was down to SoD that the team were 'bewildered' this season.Rogers has been tinkering for a while.All these teams are trying to find ways of beating one another, with world class players.Imho, Liverpool owners think they are bigger and better than they are....very unrealistic.A top 7 finish should be realistic....but nothing more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 As Spudski will attest I have little positive to say in respect of SOD, but I agree with him entirely that I don't think any conclusions can really be drawn of his abilities from the short spell at Liverpool. But... I would suggest it (again) shows the bloke is out of touch with football - whether you believe forward thinking or, frankly, without substance - because no one rational person to my mind would have left one safe job with relative profile (and supposedly right up his alley) for one where it was entirely predictable he'd be turfed out within months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 As miserable as his reign with us was he deserves credit for his signings. Fielding, Flint, Williams, Pack and JET (probably missed a couple as well.)He made some good signings, he's respected as a great coach, he's got a lot of experience and yet why was it so bad? He reminds me of someone you interview for a job. They have the best CV, they do a fantastic interview, get the job, then turn out to be a walking one man disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 A professor talking to a bunch of half idiots. What do you expect?Tommy, you are the most level headed person in know of, because the shite runs evenly out of both sides of your mouth. Love you too xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 As Spudski will attest I have little positive to say in respect of SOD, but I agree with him entirely that I don't think any conclusions can really be drawn of his abilities from the short spell at Liverpool. But... I would suggest it (again) shows the bloke is out of touch with football - whether you believe forward thinking or, frankly, without substance - because no one rational person to my mind would have left one safe job with relative profile (and supposedly right up his alley) for one where it was entirely predictable he'd be turfed out within months. Nothing ventured nothing gained.Seriously, if you were offered a job coaching Liverpool, most coach's would jump at the chance.It might have worked...it didn't because Rogers got the sack.Doesn't mean he can't go on and do well elsewhere.I respect the man for taking the challenge on....better than settling....shows balls to me.You're either a go getter in life and take opportunities when given....or shy away and then regret it on your death bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I disagree Spudski but respect your opinion. The stage he was at in his life, the job he had being so called perfect for him, the way his cv has shaped up including several sackings and even a lack of loyalty at Crawley, I think this was a move born out of vanity and insanity. Frankly AM at Liverpool under Brendan Rodgers, I don't think I'd look back with any real regrets about passing up that opportunity, not least if the choice was between that or having a direct influence in the development of young players in the country. If, for instance, he went to be Wenger's right hand man and it played out the same I wouldn't make the same accusation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 You don't have to be a fan to see they were trying to change things.Can't believe you think it was down to SoD that the team were 'bewildered' this season.Rogers has been tinkering for a while.All these teams are trying to find ways of beating one another, with world class players.Imho, Liverpool owners think they are bigger and better than they are....very unrealistic.A top 7 finish should be realistic....but nothing moreand I don't believe I said it was down to SOD that they were bewildered this season, I merely said that they looked like a bewildered team.Rogers blew it the season after their 4th place finish, his stock was high and he could have asked the board to back him and go for world class players and what did he do?, he paid 16mil for ******* Balotelli FFS, that has got to be ego, I cannot think of another reason why anybody would want to put their faith in him, but I think Roger's believed I can succeed where even the chosen one had failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakoe Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 SoD gone?? Ahh, I remember this thread! 'Thank f o o k' I thought!!! He was shit wasn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 and I don't believe I said it was down to SOD that they were bewildered this season, I merely said that they looked like a bewildered team.Rogers blew it the season after their 4th place finish, his stock was high and he could have asked the board to back him and go for world class players and what did he do?, he paid 16mil for ******* Balotelli FFS, that has got to be ego, I cannot think of another reason why anybody would want to put their faith in him, but I think Roger's believed I can succeed where even the chosen one had failed. Fair enough....I read it in the context of the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest UncleAlbert Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Could see Rogers ending up at Newcastle when mcclaren gets the boot. Will drag Sod into the mess there I expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red panda Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Can't see SoD coming back here......................Nor can I - literally - because if he did come back, I would be so distraught I would probably gouge my eyes out with a rusty nail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 and I don't believe I said it was down to SOD that they were bewildered this season, I merely said that they looked like a bewildered team.Rogers blew it the season after their 4th place finish, his stock was high and he could have asked the board to back him and go for world class players and what did he do?, he paid 16mil for ******* Balotelli FFS, that has got to be ego, I cannot think of another reason why anybody would want to put their faith in him, but I think Roger's believed I can succeed where even the chosen one had failed. Don't remember them finishing 4th under Rodgers.....didn't he lead them to 7th, 2nd and 6th during his tenure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Don't remember them finishing 4th under Rodgers.....didn't he lead them to 7th, 2nd and 6th during his tenure?Sorry I meant 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Rodgers is obviously a terrible manager....Taken a team to 7th, 2nd and 6th.A 50% win rate.... speaks fluent Spanish and Italian and Steven Gerrard described Rodgers' one-on-one management as the best he has seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Rodgers is obviously a terrible manager....Taken a team to 7th, 2nd and 6th.A 50% win rate.... speaks fluent Spanish and Italian and Steven Gerrard described Rodgers' one-on-one management as the best he has seen. He's not a terrible manager, he's just not a successful manager, and at Liverpool you have to do much better than nearly winning trophies and nearly qualifying for the champions league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Rodgers is obviously a terrible manager....Taken a team to 7th, 2nd and 6th.A 50% win rate.... speaks fluent Spanish and Italian and Steven Gerrard described Rodgers' one-on-one management as the best he has seen. Spud, I don't see anybody claiming that, the problem is those finishes are not good enough for a Liverpool manager, their fans expect more in the same way that many Manure fans would have liked to see SAF sacked in the season before that Mark Robins goal that saved his career in the FA cup match late on at Forest, had he been sacked premiership history might look very different.To be fair he had his fair share of bad luck, perhaps had Dalglish not indulged Suarez so much and reined him in from day one, he might still be there and perhaps the knock on might have been Sterling staying as well.Who knows, anyway ask the Liverpool fans on here, there are enough of them.Mind you none of this explains Balotelli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 A professor talking to a bunch of half idiots. What do you expect?I expect him to send a team out with some passion, not a bunch of players prepared to get relegated without a whimper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I think it's the fans of the likes of Liverpool and Man Utd that are delusional.They are constantly there or there about's ....with the odd blip...no major problems.I admire Arsenal for keeping faith with Wenger...people suggest they should have won more...but it's always entertaining and they are always in with a shout.No one can win year after year anymore.Look at the Prem and Serie A this year....Teams are getting closer in ability it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I think it's the fans of the likes of Liverpool and Man Utd that are delusional.They are constantly there or there about's ....with the odd blip...no major problems.I admire Arsenal for keeping faith with Wenger...people suggest they should have won more...but it's always entertaining and they are always in with a shout.No one can win year after year anymore.Look at the Prem and Serie A this year....Teams are getting closer in ability it seems. The premiership, ridiculous money era, which incidentally is about to get worse with another 3 billion to be shared out for some deal or other, has made many clubs fans delusional and not always premiership team fans and IMO ours are amongst them as are the gas and many more, either living on past glories, affluence of their owners or healthy crowds for their particular league status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Sorry I meant 2nd.No need to apologies chief, I just thought age was making me even more forgetful!Interesting fact that came out today - Klopp win rate in the Bundesliga with Dortmund was 48% and Rodgers' with Liverpool was 52%....not sure if that means anything of any significance though?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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