KeepUpLino Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 3 minutes ago, NickJ said: I really don't understand your view. Mine is that despite results the overall entertainment has been fantastic this season and in most games City have played a big part in that with some great football. Greater realism and sense of perspective required surely. There has been a common theme in all our games, lots of chances, not many converted and very fragile at the back, we're where we are for a reason and are on course for league 1. The thing that really bugs me and a lot of people is that there is no way that after last season we should be anywhere near this situation, an utter shambles!!! Quote Link to comment
GrahamC Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) 21 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: My optimism is gone. We are a poor side and will do well to stay up. I want you faithful to say you told me so on game 46 and we are sitting 10th or something but I simply can't expect that from this team now. Before today I thought we could get 7 from our next 9 points. Now I think we'll do well to get 2. Fair play to you for reasoned debate. For what it is worth from (as my post history will show) from about two weeks before the season started I've believed we were in a relegation battle and still do. Talk of a mid table finish (or 10th) is fanciful. I don't think we'll finish any higher than 18th and it could well be very tight. However just because (for reasons none of us know) our summer transfer strategy was a shambles that doesn't mean that January's will be, does it? Last summer went pretty well. Some of the stuff posted on this thread is ridiculous and to also reply to the thread above I'm actually pleased Cotterill is going ballistic at the players after the game.. Edited November 28, 2015 by GrahamC 1 Quote Link to comment
NickJ Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 5 minutes ago, 'keepuplino' said: There has been a common theme in all our games, lots of chances, not many converted and very fragile at the back, we're where we are for a reason and are on course for league 1. The thing that really bugs me and a lot of people is that there is no way that after last season we should be anywhere near this situation, an utter shambles!!! How are we "on course" for league 1 when there are 4 teams below us? Of course it would have been nice to have pressed on a bit better this season but there are 23 other teams who all want to do better. Quote Link to comment
Jesus Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 We don't have an issue upgrading players for a new league. Why should management be any different? 2 Quote Link to comment
KeepUpLino Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 2 minutes ago, NickJ said: How are we "on course" for league 1 when there are 4 teams below us? Of course it would have been nice to have pressed on a bit better this season but there are 23 other teams who all want to do better. UMMM... Do you really want me to explain? Quote Link to comment
john shaw number 1 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 14 minutes ago, Gilts said: Hopefully that will wake them up and he will make a few changes, Quote Link to comment
Offside Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 What a horrendous result. Perhaps an element of complacency going into the game today with the talk of the play offs from the players? I wasn't at the game but it seems like the usual failings, i.e. wasting chances and weak defending. We have bounced back from a bad performance before (e.g. beating Wolves after that horrible Fulham game) so I wouldn't be surprised if we picked up three points next game, but there is no doubt we are struggling - only 3 wins so far says it all. Hopefully we can dig in over the next few games and pick up some points before improving the team in Jan. I'm not holding my breath after the fiasco of the summer, but we have to hold onto some hope! Tough few months ahead. Quote Link to comment
JoeAman08 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 7 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Fair play to you for reasoned debate. For what it is worth from (as my post history will show) from about two weeks before the season started I've believed we were in a relegation battle and still do. Talk of a mid table finish (or 10th) is fanciful. I don't think we'll finish any higher than 18th and it could well be very tight. However just because (for reasons none of us know) our summer transfer strategy was a shambles that doesn't mean that January's will be, does it? Last summer went pretty well. Some of the stuff posted on this thread is ridiculous and to also reply to the thread above I'm actually pleased Cotterill is going ballistic at the players after the game.. That's fine for you. Probably makes the results easier to take expecting a lower table finish. Maybe more of us should've been more realistic. Before the deadline came and past, it was trust the club. I did and even though we only signed one player, I bought into the hype. I thought we could build on last season and finish mid table to build again. It's why I'm disappointed. The thing with January is, well either have to throw money at someone to convince them to come to a struggling side or take chances on lower league talent. It's not the best time to be completing your squad but more to add a bit of fresh quality to almost complete side. Quote Link to comment
Nogbad the Bad Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 4 minutes ago, Jesus said: We don't have an issue upgrading players for a new league. Why should management be any different? Well. firstly there's no guarantee a new manager would be an improvement. The players, who've just got a huge pay rise due to that manager guiding them to promotion, may well start sulking. When the manager who's just given the club a fantastic promotion is also an experienced Championship manager who has never been relegated out of that division, why would you replace him? If the replacement manager failed whoever had sacked Cotterill would be in an untenable position. The fans would be furious and want to know why that action was taken, and there would be no possible acceptable answer. Quote Link to comment
NickJ Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 19 minutes ago, 'keepuplino' said: UMMM... Do you really want me to explain? UMMM..... Yes! Quote Link to comment
Ash the Bash Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Just saw Cotts' interview, no ridicilous excuses thank god - basically blamed it on us playing crap and rightly so it seems. Quote Link to comment
exAtyeoMax Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 14 minutes ago, Ash the Bash said: Just saw Cotts' interview, no ridicilous excuses thank god - basically blamed it on us playing crap and rightly so it seems. He did say that we were the better team… Quote Link to comment
Andy082005 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 10 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: He did say that we were the better team… He is an idiot then Quote Link to comment
exAtyeoMax Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Just now, Andy082005 said: He is an idiot then I have to say I was rather surprised. I wasn't there so can't possibly comment. Quote Link to comment
bristolcitysweden Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) On a positive this was a very clear and LOUDwake up call Edited November 28, 2015 by bristolcitysweden Quote Link to comment
KeepUpLino Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 21 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: He did say that we were the better team… Are you kidding? Quote Link to comment
RumRed Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 He'll be gone soon, thanks for a great season (in league 1) but the transfer activity in the summer was so poor we stood no chance, where the blame that lies we'll never know. 1 Quote Link to comment
exAtyeoMax Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 5 minutes ago, 'keepuplino' said: Are you kidding? He said it post match Radio Bristol http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/POST-MATCH-REACTION/story-28259341-detail/story.html Quote Link to comment
Andy082005 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 20 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: He said it post match Radio Bristol http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/POST-MATCH-REACTION/story-28259341-detail/story.html He is clutching at straws. "If we did this"..."If we did that" We didn't. We were crap. Same excuses week in week out. At some point we either have to sort these problems out....or we are going down. 1 Quote Link to comment
exAtyeoMax Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Just now, Andy082005 said: He is clutching at straws. "If we did this"..."If we did that" We didn't. We were crap. Same excuses week in week out. At some point we either have to sort these problems out....or we are going down. Why are we missing all these chances? Time and time again… Is it fear, panic? The goal hasn't got smaller since we've been promoted. Quote Link to comment
italian dave Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 48 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: I have to say I was rather surprised. I wasn't there so can't possibly comment. I was there so I'll comment. If he really thought we were the better team he's either kidding himself or he's deluded. Or he thought we were the team playing in red and white. We had a bright first 5 minutes, but from there on in we were increasingly second best, and by the second half we were so poor Rotherham didn't really have to play. FFS we lost 3-0. You don't lose 3-0 if you're the better side. 1 Quote Link to comment
BobBobSuperBob Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) Just forced myself to watch yep the goals - jeeeeeeeeeeeeez First Goal Clarke - Harris on right touch line 40 Yds from goal , being watched by Baker & Williams - allowed to wander forward and then across the pitch and curls / chips into far post - looked like Flint could have almost headed it away and FF ?????? The penalty - wtf JK was doing tugging at opponent when no danger The third - awful defensive header from Ayling and the rest of defence all at sea and no one seemingly picking up opponents (Flint has a tendency to be caught in no mans land - not marking but unable to block any shot - the danger is the MAN Aiden not the space) Not good - dire defending in a number of ways Edited November 28, 2015 by BobBobSuperBob Quote Link to comment
BCFC Jordan Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 3 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Just forced myself to watch yep the goals - jeeeeeeeeeeeeez Watching the highlights on the Sky site has somehow made me even more depressed and I didn't think that was possible. 1 Quote Link to comment
BobBobSuperBob Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Here is the only thing that will make Sat night viewing worse than Crap Factor http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/10082787/rotherham-3-0-bristol-city Quote Link to comment
gordie Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 7 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Here is the only thing that will make Sat night viewing worse than Crap Factor http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/10082787/rotherham-3-0-bristol-city Sunday league defending and that's being harsh on all the pissed up Sunday morning players Quote Link to comment
CotswoldRed Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 1 hour ago, exAtyeoMax said: Why are we missing all these chances? Time and time again… Is it fear, panic? The goal hasn't got smaller since we've been promoted. He's a stuck record. If we keep missing chances then we aren't capable of taking enough of them. Simple. His comments describe my own ability to serve aces past Andy Murray. I'd miss most of those chances. And that's because I'm shit at Tennis. Quote Link to comment
BS4 on Tour... Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 17 hours ago, NickJ said: Cotterill's record: Year One - took us from bottom to comfortable safety. Year Two - won the league with a record (for us) points total. Year Three so far - not in the relegation zone which most would have taken before the season started. That's fact and IMO the football this season is far from shite. Your comment is so far from reality. It was only a record number of points for us last season because three points for a win was introduced in 1981. In 1954/55 we won 30 games and drew 10, so like for like that's a hundred points. Pedantic point I know, but it's like the Vardy record, fantastic achievement by him and I think he's a great player, but scoring in 11 consecutive games isn't the record for the top div in England, 12 is...but it's deemed too long ago to count? Quote Link to comment
Aizoon Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 2 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: It was only a record number of points for us last season because three points for a win was introduced in 1981. In 1954/55 we won 30 games and drew 10, so like for like that's a hundred points. Pedantic point I know, but it's like the Vardy record, fantastic achievement by him and I think he's a great player, but scoring in 11 consecutive games isn't the record for the top div in England, 12 is...but it's deemed too long ago to count? Before the Premiership doesn't count because it wasn't on Sky Quote Link to comment
Bazooka Joe Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 19 hours ago, bristolcitysweden said: On a positive this was a very clear and LOUDwake up call Pardon? Quote Link to comment
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