MarkRed! Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 In May 2013, Keith Burt was appointed as Director of Football (quite why we need one) but this was his mandate "BRISTOL City have announced a major change in their management structure by appointing Keith Burt as director of football. Recruited to serve as chief scout earlier this year, the former Nottingham Forest man will provide a crucial link between head coach Sean O'Driscoll and the Ashton Gate board of directors. An avowed football man with an impressive track record, Burt's remit will involve taking responsibility for the playing budget and maintaining a regular dialogue between the board and management team and players. Already overseeing player recruitment, Burt will also be charged with dealing with agents and contractual negotiations for players and staff, a sphere previously presided over by chairman Keith Dawe and managing director Jon Lansdown". So if you are reading this Mr Burt, the court is in session and you are charged with undermining our manager, fans and team. You are leading us to the brink of relegation - how do you plead...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Just now, MarkRed! said: In May 2013, Keith Dawe was appointed as Director of Football (quite why we need one) but this was his mandate "BRISTOL City have announced a major change in their management structure by appointing Keith Burt as director of football. Recruited to serve as chief scout earlier this year, the former Nottingham Forest man will provide a crucial link between head coach Sean O'Driscoll and the Ashton Gate board of directors. An avowed football man with an impressive track record, Burt's remit will involve taking responsibility for the playing budget and maintaining a regular dialogue between the board and management team and players. Already overseeing player recruitment, Burt will also be charged with dealing with agents and contractual negotiations for players and staff, a sphere previously presided over by chairman Keith Dawe and managing director Jon Lansdown". So if you are reading this Mr Dawe, the court is in session and you are charged with undermining our manager, fans and team. You are leading us to the brink of relegation - how do you plead...... Any reply yet? Uncle TFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, MarkRed! said: In May 2013, Keith Burt was appointed as Director of Football (quite why we need one) but this was his mandate "BRISTOL City have announced a major change in their management structure by appointing Keith Burt as director of football. Recruited to serve as chief scout earlier this year, the former Nottingham Forest man will provide a crucial link between head coach Sean O'Driscoll and the Ashton Gate board of directors. An avowed football man with an impressive track record, Burt's remit will involve taking responsibility for the playing budget and maintaining a regular dialogue between the board and management team and players. Already overseeing player recruitment, Burt will also be charged with dealing with agents and contractual negotiations for players and staff, a sphere previously presided over by chairman Keith Dawe and managing director Jon Lansdown". So if you are reading this Mr Burt, the court is in session and you are charged with undermining our manager, fans and team. You are leading us to the brink of relegation - how do you plead...... Maybe someone somewhere has decided they know best and have no desire to work with Mr Burt, and if Mr Burt were to use their contacts to bring in a striker on loan, this someone might think their position is being undermined and refuses to play them for the duration of their loan period.... Speculation, naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, MarkRed! said: In May 2013, Keith Dawe was appointed as Director of Football (quite why we need one) but this was his mandate "BRISTOL City have announced a major change in their management structure by appointing Keith Burt as director of football. Recruited to serve as chief scout earlier this year, the former Nottingham Forest man will provide a crucial link between head coach Sean O'Driscoll and the Ashton Gate board of directors. An avowed football man with an impressive track record, Burt's remit will involve taking responsibility for the playing budget and maintaining a regular dialogue between the board and management team and players. Already overseeing player recruitment, Burt will also be charged with dealing with agents and contractual negotiations for players and staff, a sphere previously presided over by chairman Keith Dawe and managing director Jon Lansdown". So if you are reading this Mr Dawe, the court is in session and you are charged with undermining our manager, fans and team. You are leading us to the brink of relegation - how do you plead...... Blimey - so it's Keith Dawe who was appointed (by himself) as Director of Football. It sort of all makes sense now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC1512 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 The silence from the club is ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall King Blox Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I can see this one going in the bin..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkRed! Posted January 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 5 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: Blimey - so it's Keith Dawe who was appointed (by himself) as Director of Football. It sort of all makes sense now. I meant Burt - doh! They can both come and justify themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 At the start of the season SL made it clear he wasn't going to play players agents vast fees, could this be part of the reason why players available always end up at other clubs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City fan 1982 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 instead of mr ashton to the williams stand, we could replace it with mr burt !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 1 minute ago, ashton_fan said: At the start of the season SL made it clear he wasn't going to play players agents vast fees, could this be part of the reason why players available always end up at other clubs? When did SL say this? Would explain some of it. Got a link you can share? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 22 minutes ago, MarkRed! said: In May 2013, Keith Burt was appointed as Director of Football (quite why we need one) but this was his mandate "BRISTOL City have announced a major change in their management structure by appointing Keith Burt as director of football. Recruited to serve as chief scout earlier this year, the former Nottingham Forest man will provide a crucial link between head coach Sean O'Driscoll and the Ashton Gate board of directors. An avowed football man with an impressive track record, Burt's remit will involve taking responsibility for the playing budget and maintaining a regular dialogue between the board and management team and players. Already overseeing player recruitment, Burt will also be charged with dealing with agents and contractual negotiations for players and staff, a sphere previously presided over by chairman Keith Dawe and managing director Jon Lansdown". So if you are reading this Mr Burt, the court is in session and you are charged with undermining our manager, fans and team. You are leading us to the brink of relegation - how do you plead...... Ah yes but apparently all of this was changed by SC and SL has not informed the fans about it, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 12 minutes ago, ashton_fan said: At the start of the season SL made it clear he wasn't going to play players agents vast fees, could this be part of the reason why players available always end up at other clubs? He was quoted recently as saying...'maybe we should be paying Agents more' as well....in respect to the problems in landing targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Could we hire Del and Rodney to see if they can contact them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laner Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 14 minutes ago, kivsy said: instead of mr ashton to the williams stand, we could replace it with mr burt !! Or maybe... "Mr Ashton to the subs bench please" would be more appropriate at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 6, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 "Owner Steve Lansdown is prepared to fund new signings and manager Steve Cotterill and director of football Keith Burt are actively pursuing a number of prime targets."Read more: http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/BRISTOL-CITY-Don-t-believe-speculation-says-chief/story-26767497-detail/story.html#ixzz3wTcj9gae so what went wrong?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 6 minutes ago, phantom said: "Owner Steve Lansdown is prepared to fund new signings and manager Steve Cotterill and director of football Keith Burt are actively pursuing a number of prime targets."Read more: http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/BRISTOL-CITY-Don-t-believe-speculation-says-chief/story-26767497-detail/story.html#ixzz3wTcj9gae so what went wrong?!?!? I guess we didn't play the agents game, and ultimately lost due to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 22 minutes ago, phantom said: "Owner Steve Lansdown is prepared to fund new signings and manager Steve Cotterill and director of football Keith Burt are actively pursuing a number of prime targets."Read more: http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/BRISTOL-CITY-Don-t-believe-speculation-says-chief/story-26767497-detail/story.html#ixzz3wTcj9gae so what went wrong?!?!? They had different targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Presumably Burt has a budget and a wage ceiling to work to, and probably a limit of what we are prepared to pay an agent for doing a deal? If we don't offer enough money, transfer fee, wage or agents fees then how does this fall at his feet? If we had an unlimited budget I suspect it would be somewhat easier to get people here. That's without going up against the likes of Burnley for potential signings. Maybe, just maybe, if the purse strings were loosened then it may make his job a little easier There was something doing the rounds on twitter the other night suggesting that SL & Pelling had retracted offers to Gray and Maguire in the hope they would become cheaper as the summer went on. Now, I can't say that I believe that 100%, but if it were the case then it's possible that Burt's mandate has changed since he joined Whichever person you want to point a finger at I'm find with, because someone is to blame for the cluster****. Pelling leaving makes me think that maybe he took the bullet, but, looking from the outside, I can't see how the blame can be laid at his door completely either. Unless the paragraph above is true, in which case, good riddance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 6, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 6 minutes ago, Woodsy said: Presumably Burt has a budget and a wage ceiling to work to, and probably a limit of what we are prepared to pay an agent for doing a deal? So this puts JL's answer of never turning down an offer taken to him in a different light My money is still on the line "the loan transfer window opens the first week in February, so there is no need to rush" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 15 minutes ago, phantom said: So this puts JL's answer of never turning down an offer taken to him in a different light My money is still on the line "the loan transfer window opens the first week in February, so there is no need to rush" Phants - something tells me that this exact line will get rolled out in the near future. And it scares the crap out of me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extonsred Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 34 minutes ago, phantom said: So this puts JL's answer of never turning down an offer taken to him in a different light My money is still on the line "the loan transfer window opens the first week in February, so there is no need to rush" 1way too late I expect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Whatever the truth actually seeing evidence that he is still alive would be a start. I'm not completely convinced that he wasn't kidnapped six months ago and we are unwilling to pay the ransom.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 1 minute ago, GrahamC said: Whatever the truth actually seeing evidence that he is still alive would be a start. I'm not completely convinced that he wasn't kidnapped six months ago and we are unwilling to pay the ransom.. Or "Agent's Fee" as Steve Lansdown would probably call it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 13 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: Or "Agent's Fee" as Steve Lansdown would probably call it Probably hoping he'll be released on a 'free' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 32 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Probably hoping he'll be released on a 'free' Maybe QPR paid the release fee before we could? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 47 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Whatever the truth actually seeing evidence that he is still alive would be a start. I'm not completely convinced that he wasn't kidnapped six months ago and we are unwilling to pay the ransom.. The window is now open so he might escape his kidnappers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I get sooooo fed up with threads on here looking to "blame" for the clubs lack,of signings last summer. I heard Junior Lansdown explain to the senior reds why, despite previously stating that signings were "in the pipe line" that only Kodjia joined City. I have posted his reply on here several times but it seems not many people read it or if they did have forgotten it. The bottom line is that blaming someone or something is pretty pointless. Fact is City are struggling through lack of quality signings last summer but apportionating blame now won't change that reality. Im more concerned about this current window than I am about whose blame it was last summer. I seriously can't see any better quality players signing for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Just now, Robbored said: I get sooooo fed up with threads on here looking to "blame" for the clubs lack,of signings last summer. I heard Junior Lansdown explain to the senior reds why, despite previously stating that signings were "in the pipe line" that only Kodjia joined City. I have posted his reply on here several times but it seems not many people read it or if they did have forgotten it. The bottom line is that blaming someone or something is pretty pointless. Fact is City are struggling through lack of quality signings last summer but apportionating blame now won't change that reality. Im more concerned about this current window than I am about whose blame it was last summer. I seriously can't see any better quality players signing for us. The 'pipe line' is modern parlance for the Channel Tunnel. So he wasn't telling fibs. We never had these problems when it was just called the 'Chunnel'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Clearly Keith Burt and our Chairman aren't fit for purpose and should be sacked due to incompetence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 1 hour ago, Robbored said: I get sooooo fed up with threads on here looking to "blame" for the clubs lack,of signings last summer. I heard Junior Lansdown explain to the senior reds why, despite previously stating that signings were "in the pipe line" that only Kodjia joined City. I have posted his reply on here several times but it seems not many people read it or if they did have forgotten it. The bottom line is that blaming someone or something is pretty pointless. Fact is City are struggling through lack of quality signings last summer but apportionating blame now won't change that reality. Im more concerned about this current window than I am about whose blame it was last summer. I seriously can't see any better quality players signing for us. Really don't care about that. In most lines of work feeble excuses result in the sack. We seem frighteningly complacent as to just how much damage relegation will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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