Cider red Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Were clearly going to a back four now, (about time) our only lb is Williams who prefers cb, this signing would make sense, a realistic target with championship experience. Hallelujah!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 1 hour ago, ZiderEyed said: aaah, didn't know that. Still this transfer makes no sense. Joe Bryan can play left back, so can Williams, both comfortably, each of them offering a different style. What would Wiggins bring in? think its more because Williams is more of a left sided CB, and although we have Baker there for now, that's just for the season, and Bryan is a pretty versatile left sided player. If yesterday is anything to go by he is seen as more of a left midfielder, and he is undeniably more attacking minded than your average left back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDBS36 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, Loco Rojo said: And let's see him play before we write him off too. Not the OTIB way though is it? If it's not a £1m+ deal or Ronaldo then they're obviously not good enough for all the Otib Managers! If this is true, then welcome to the mad house Wiggins but stay the hell away from OTIB. remember all the fuss when we signed wilbs don't hang them till we know if they deserve it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Worth noting that forest tried to sign him earlier this month....can't be that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall's Splinter Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 5 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said: Really? At the expense of a tiny knackered squad I would suggest. Poor management in my book. Poor management going for quality??? Dont get get me wrong it would appear Cotterill was after top end of the championship perhaps, yet if we're considering purchasing players who aren't going to challenger the starting eleven, we may as well sign Tommy Tucker from Totterdown Reserves. Im aware we need number but they must be on at least a par of what we've got, don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, SDBS36 said: remember all the fuss when we signed wilbs don't hang them till we know if they deserve it And Flint and others. The list goes on. I just cannot believe we have fans that write players off before they've even kicked a ball in our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antman Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 At 28 he isn't an u-25 that SC claimed were all we could sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 5 minutes ago, Port Pete said: Poor management going for quality??? Dont get get me wrong it would appear Cotterill was after top end of the championship perhaps, yet if we're considering purchasing players who aren't going to challenger the starting eleven, we may as well sign Tommy Tucker from Totterdown Reserves. Im aware we need number but they must be on at least a par of what we've got, don't you think? Poor management in not going for players who would be able to genuinely compete for a place in the squad even though they might not be absolute top drawer/cost millions. He never stopped banging on about how tired the players were. Maybe thats because he hadn't got enough of a competent squad together so as he could rotate/change the formation. Having a tiny squad is poor management. Not changing the 352 when necessary was poor management. As we've seen letting Cunningham go was poor management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost black rat Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 1 hour ago, ZiderEyed said: Looking around, the Sheffield Wednesday fans seem to absolutely hate him, saying he's awful. Why didn't we just keep Cunningham. Still, if he comes here, clean slate, I wont judge him on how shit he has been elsewhere. Swindon fans said the same about flint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, Loco Rojo said: And Flint and others. The list goes on. I just cannot believe we have fans that write players off before they've even kicked a ball in our team. Are you deliberately missing the point? No-one is writing off an individual player. I am talking about our fundamental policy on transfers. Do you go for proven quality and pay the going rate - which WILL give you a good chance of achieving the stated aim of prem football. Or do you say - 'here is £2-300k go take a punt on someone you reckon might turn out to be a good buy'. SL prefers the latter - it is akin to searching the penny shares to make a killing in his day job. I just think we have tried that for years and it always ends the same way. It is a policy more likely to deliver L1 than prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 We haven't even got to the point the player turns us down, and most don't want him already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Wiggins won't turn us down....having a nightmare at Wednesday and getting no game time, he is from Wales so basically back home. Would be a no brainier especially at 28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall's Splinter Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 18 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said: Poor management in not going for players who would be able to genuinely compete for a place in the squad even though they might not be absolute top drawer/cost millions. He never stopped banging on about how tired the players were. Maybe thats because he hadn't got enough of a competent squad together so as he could rotate/change the formation. Having a tiny squad is poor management. Not changing the 352 when necessary was poor management. As we've seen letting Cunningham go was poor management. I'm not disagreeing about the managements incompetence in respect of the size of the squad, yet I challenging you on signing players who aren't as good if not better than what we've already got. Whilst I'm fully aware numbers are ridiculously low, to sign players purely for a quantity purpose as you've alluded would also put us back to where we were a few years ago with bog average players/past there sell by date signed purely for "clubs in the bag" mentality. The above isn't in respect of Wiggins, I'm talking about signing players in general. With reference to Cunningham, I would openly guess that the majority of City fans who eyes are often blinded by players from the academy, would've let him go as Joe Bryan was set to be the next premier league star in our ranks after 1 season in league one. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Bladder Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Does that mean we could have WIGGY and WAGGY playing down the left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Port Pete said: I'm not disagreeing about the managements incompetence in respect of the size of the squad, yet I challenging you on signing players who aren't as good if not better than what we've already got. Whilst I'm fully aware numbers are ridiculously low, to sign players purely for a quantity purpose as you've alluded would also put us back to where we were a few years ago with bog average players/past there sell by date signed purely for "clubs in the bag" mentality. The above isn't in respect of Wiggins, I'm talking about signing players in general. With reference to Cunningham, I would openly guess that the majority of City fans who eyes are often blinded by players from the academy, would've let him go as Joe Bryan was set to be the next premier league star in our ranks after 1 season in league one. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. I'm not suggesting SC should have signed players less good than we have, but hanging out for 'quality' instead of keeping the strength of the overall squad up has partly been responsible for our situation. He obviously felt that the players outside of the usual suspects we not up to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 20 minutes ago, cynic said: Thought he was a London boy ? According to Wiki came through the Crystal Palace set up but was recently in the squad for Wales in Euro qualifiers. Born in Uxbridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Just seen on twitter the deal has fallen through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 12 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Just seen on twitter the deal has fallen through Where? I've seen only people celebrating him leaving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 1 hour ago, robin_unreliant said: So if he's that good why are they letting him go at a loss after a few months? And why do the Wed fans have such negative opinions on him? I don't know anything about him tbh so this isn't really about him in particular. Maybe it will turn out to be a bargain. All I am saying is this is an illustration of where the club really wants to go. Buy them in cheap and hope some turn out to be gems. As opposed to chasing quality and paying big bucks. This is partly why we have struggled at this level. You pay peanuts......... We gave Palace fans such good reviews of Bolasie didn't we Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 He's a good player with championship experience, a position we're short in, good age, good fee - makes sense to me. Just because the new manager isn't in place yet doesn't mean we wait with such a small squad. Who knows, maybe we have a manager in place, he's ok'd the signing and we're going to announce the new boss tomorrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted January 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 23 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Just seen on twitter the deal has fallen through not seen this anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City fan 1982 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Don't want him , not getting game time and injury prone ? That will help rotate the the squad then ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 32 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Just seen on twitter the deal has fallen through Has probably been reading this thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent Pepper Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 22 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Who knows, maybe we have a manager in place, he's ok'd the signing and we're going to announce the new boss tomorrow? What he said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray White Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 52 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Just seen on twitter the deal has fallen through Has he gone back to Sheffield to think about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 28 and never played for Wales, really?! And we want/wanted this guy? Don't know a lot about him, but if he's half decent, then he must at least have caps for Wales if he's Welsh and deemed good enough for the Championship. As mentioned, our transfer policy is bullshit, but is he the sort of guy we want to improve our squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Ashton Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Hasn't really played a lot of games for a 28 year-old has he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Our transfer policy was actually very good in summer 2014, and our consultant then, whom we are told was instrumental in those signings, is now our Director of Operations, and our Director of Football, who identified targets then, is still with us. Have faith, folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrytheb Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Seeing as we have no out and out LBs at the club I'd suggest he would be a very good addition to the squad. Not sure all the negativity towards this tbh. On one hand people say we should be looking at bargains from lower leagues, well they will be 'cheap' so the chance to get someone in who's played this league before for 'cheap' should be explored shouldn't it? What is or should be the going rate for a player? Should we go back to Wednesday and say actually we wanna give you £1m to appease the fans as that will automatically mean he's a better player? Perhaps 300k is what most players in our league should be going for and we're potentiallygetting a solid deal? I wonder if the Leicester fans were moaning on their forum when they only payed 500k for Myrez (sp?) The squad is so depleted that if we had to spend 1m + for every squad place we need to improve we'd probably be looking at at least 15m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porto Red Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Ray White said: Has he gone back to Sheffield to think about it? Wants to play one last game for them (someone had to say it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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