YorkshireSection Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 3 hours ago, old_eastender said: Not confident we will stay up, however feel we can do it. The results under Pembo & Wade, 7pts from 4 games, if continued would see us pull well clear. Also as things stand we are not in bottom 3. So all down to the impact LJ has, whether we stay up or not from here is all on his head. As someone else said if LJ starts tinkering to impress Ashton, or just to make his mark, it could all go tits up. Will be able to predict much better after Saturday's game. Here's hoping for our first back-to-back wins which would send confidence soaring. Makes you wonder why we didn't stick with Pembo and Wade, thought they were exactly what was needed and the players reacted and dug deep for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 9 minutes ago, YorkshireSection said: Makes you wonder why we didn't stick with Pembo and Wade, thought they were exactly what was needed and the players reacted and dug deep for them. The club is between the devil and the deep blue sea. Appointing any manager ( even the likes of Pearson, Moyes etc) could undo the work done by Pembo and Wade and back in even more trouble. However if they stuck with Pembo and things had turned for the worst, then many fans would immediately blame the club for not paying to bring in an experienced manager. Also keeping Pembo in charge till the end of the season would be seen by many as the cheap option, i.e.SL not being prepared to " put his hand in his pocket" to fund our survival. Keeping Pembo and Wade in charge would then create another problem if we survive this season, as what would the club then do? If we gave Pembo the job long term then he has no managerial experience - completely contrary to what the majority of fans have been calling for - and once again many would see it as the club going for the cheap option, especially if next season started badly. It's an easy job, this running a football club. Unless, that is you are doing so from behind a keyboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 14 minutes ago, YorkshireSection said: Makes you wonder why we didn't stick with Pembo and Wade, thought they were exactly what was needed and the players reacted and dug deep for them. I'm really hoping LJ is smart enough to let Pembo have a strong influence for the rest of the season. Suddenly switching to his own style could be a catastrophe. My instinct is that he will play the smart game, hope so anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 16 hours ago, cynic said: I'm also confident that we'll stay up. Not sure who will go down other than Charlton and Bolton if they go into admin or wound up (really couldn't give a toss if they do or don't), but it won't be us. Cynic by name, cynic by nature? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 12 hours ago, YorkshireSection said: Was confident with Pembo in charge but not LJ, I really think the guys out of his depth and I can't say that I was overjoyed with a 3.5 year contract for a manager who so far has done nothing. I genuinely hope I'm wrong as I believe he cares about the club but if he wants to keep us up play Tomlinson through the middle and get a striker in NOW. Pemberton is still here, and Johnson strike's me as intelligent and humble enough to listen to the advice of a man who oversaw 7 points from games....unlike his predecessor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 17 hours ago, cynic said: I'm also confident that we'll stay up. Not sure who will go down other than Charlton and Bolton if they go into admin or wound up (really couldn't give a toss if they do or don't), but it won't be us. As part of the "football family", I wouldn't want to see Bolton wound up. Are you not able to empathise with their blameless supporters? I'd be disappointed if supporters of other clubs took your stance if we were in the same situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 3 hours ago, YorkshireSection said: Makes you wonder why we didn't stick with Pembo and Wade, thought they were exactly what was needed and the players reacted and dug deep for them. My comments exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I think we're down. However, I'm not overly worried. I've got £50 on us to go down and think Lee will bring us straight back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 2 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said: Pemberton is still here, and Johnson strike's me as intelligent and humble enough to listen to the advice of a man who oversaw 7 points from games....unlike his predecessor. Indeed. Dont like the Johnson appointment one bit but the guy does seem humble and not stupid enough to suddenly come in and start changing a team/tactics that has been solid AND getting us points. Im very confident we will now stay up to be honest, i think there are teams still yet to be dragged in that will have a say aswell. Bolton Charlton and im going to say it but i think Fulham are my dark horses to go down.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rissey Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 4 hours ago, BS3_RED said: Thank you for your detailed quality input into this thread. Lets hope that your future contributions are just as insightful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Garland-sweden Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Think we will stay up. The def is good, 4 games in the leauge and only one goal conceded. Kodjia will score soon and we will beat Ipswich. Think LJ will be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 1 hour ago, bris red said: Indeed. Dont like the Johnson appointment one bit but the guy does seem humble and not stupid enough to suddenly come in and start changing a team/tactics that has been solid AND getting us points. Im very confident we will now stay up to be honest, i think there are teams still yet to be dragged in that will have a say aswell. Bolton Charlton and im going to say it but i think Fulham are my dark horses to go down.. Is Bolton Charlton, Bobby and Jack's lesser known brother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Rednwhiterob said: I think we're down. However, I'm not overly worried. I've got £50 on us to go down and think Lee will bring us straight back up. Three points clear of the relegation zone with 16 games still to go and you've already made you're mind up we're down? Blimey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 4 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said: Three points clear of the relegation zone with 16 games still to go and you've already made you're mind up we're down? Blimey. Yep. I think we're down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snufflelufagus Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 13 hours ago, old_eastender said: Not confident we will stay up, however feel we can do it. The results under Pembo & Wade, 7pts from 4 games, if continued would see us pull well clear. Also as things stand we are not in bottom 3. So all down to the impact LJ has, whether we stay up or not from here is all on his head. As someone else said if LJ starts tinkering to impress Ashton, or just to make his mark, it could all go tits up. Will be able to predict much better after Saturday's game. Here's hoping for our first back-to-back wins which would send confidence soaring. Agree fully with the tinkering. And worryingly if you read the Korey Smith interview you can read into it that he is already tinkering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I feel that our survival is more in the hands of the teams below us. I don't see our form changing any time soon so if suddenly Rotherham, Bolton or Charlton find some form we could really be in the sh*t. I really do hope our form changes for the better but right now I just don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Only if we can start scoring goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 8 hours ago, Spike said: I feel that our survival is more in the hands of the teams below us. I don't see our form changing any time soon so if suddenly Rotherham, Bolton or Charlton find some form we could really be in the sh*t. I really do hope our form changes for the better but right now I just don't see it. What form are you referring to?! Our form is 7 points from the last four games. Maintain that and we easily survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 9 hours ago, Rednwhiterob said: Yep. I think we're down. I just don't get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted February 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 How confident are we all feeling today? Loving the gap between us and the bottom 3, just need to start climbing the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 1 hour ago, reddogkev said: How confident are we all feeling today? Loving the gap between us and the bottom 3, just need to start climbing the table. Very. Not out of the woods yet by any means but I`ve seen enough recently to know we are better than most of the crap below us. We will start to climb the table now - beat MK next week and we`re guaranteed to at least one place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 Next two games (MK away and Brighton home) I really hope we can get 4 points - we get that and we'll be on the right track. Looking at the sides we've played, and the form we've shown, I think we can be positive about our chances. Ourselves and MK both hitting a patch of form has come at the wrong time for the likes of Rotherham and Charlton, as means next weekend we could both go as much as 6 and 7 points clear of them both respectively, even just with a draw, which wouldn't slow our momentum (that is presuming their away games at Fulham and Burnley go with form). Staying hard to score against and keeping up the sort of attacking pressure we displayed yesterday, and I think we have every chance of being at this level next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MigratedRobin Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 I'm absolutely sure that if we had played this fixture 6 weeks ago it would have either ended in a draw or a defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, MigratedRobin said: I'm absolutely sure that if we had played this fixture 6 weeks ago it would have either ended in a draw or a defeat. 6 weeks ago we would have shipped a late equaliser I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 I said after Charlton we won't be going back in the relegation zone at all this season. I stick with that, if anyone is going to get sucked in it'll be Blackburn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 Not at all confident during SCs final days as manager, we were doomed with him. Now,we have a great chance of staying up as the last 5 games indicate.More solid, organised... we've knocked off two teams in the top 8, averaging 2 points a game in the last 5.. conceding just 2. Hope we can keep that up but I'm alot more confident now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 On 11 February 2016 at 11:28, downendcity said: The club is between the devil and the deep blue sea. Appointing any manager ( even the likes of Pearson, Moyes etc) could undo the work done by Pembo and Wade and back in even more trouble. However if they stuck with Pembo and things had turned for the worst, then many fans would immediately blame the club for not paying to bring in an experienced manager. Also keeping Pembo in charge till the end of the season would be seen by many as the cheap option, i.e.SL not being prepared to " put his hand in his pocket" to fund our survival. Keeping Pembo and Wade in charge would then create another problem if we survive this season, as what would the club then do? If we gave Pembo the job long term then he has no managerial experience - completely contrary to what the majority of fans have been calling for - and once again many would see it as the club going for the cheap option, especially if next season started badly. It's an easy job, this running a football club. Unless, that is you are doing so from behind a keyboard. However there is a large amount of fans that look at LJ as the cheap option and the contract length ridiculous. Off course we all want him to do well but I'd have preferred a shorter contract, with clauses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityboy Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 I am now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 4 wins and a couple of draws should be good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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