archie andrews Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 between our leader and sean dyche I reckon hopefully dyche so we don't get the dreaded curse or is it a sign of progress in a positive way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 1 minute ago, archie andrews said: between our leader and sean dyche I reckon hopefully dyche so we don't get the dreaded curse or is it a sign of progress in a positive way Been statistically proven that there is a very small positive effect (not causal I'm sure) following manager of month awards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted February 29, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 Johnson won it last month with Barnsley and has kept on winning with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 Hope he does win it. The 'curse' is b0ll0cks, and nobody could argue. He may or not have got lucky with results, but results are what counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 15 minutes ago, Ian M said: Johnson won it last month with Barnsley and has kept on winning with us So by extent we keep hiring league 1 manager of the month winners on 1 month contracts and repeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadredfred Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 Really? I'm well happy with his start but from an outsiders view losing 0-4 at home surely won't help his claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 Dyche is far and away the best candidate and if he doesn't win then the award is a complete farce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 Grayson would probably be the #2 option for the award after Dyche, when you look at results Preston have done over some decent teams this month and taken as many points as we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 18 minutes ago, Robbored said: Dyche is far and away the best candidate and if he doesn't win then the award is a complete farce. Why? Our record is more impressive given our position. And that's what it's all about. Relativity. Oh sorry. I forgot, we're talking about Johnson aren't we. I thought you were making a real point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 10 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Why? Our record is more impressive given our position. And that's what it's all about. Relativity. Oh sorry. I forgot, we're talking about Johnson aren't we. I thought you were making a real point. This month has seen Burnley gain 6 points on Hull, 5 points on M'boro, a point on Brighton and 6 on Derby so this month has been relatively crucial in terms of Burnley keeping their push for promotion going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, hodge said: This month has seen Burnley gain 6 points on Hull, 5 points on M'boro, a point on Brighton and 6 on Derby so this month has been relatively crucial in terms of Burnley keeping their push for promotion going. Yes. Agreed. But points are expected at the top, but not necessarily at the bottom. I think it makes our achievements all the more impressive. What do you think is more impressive in cricket, a number 3 scoring 200, or a number 11 scoring 100? Now, my point isn't that Dyche shouldn't win. Maybe he should. But it certainly isn't as clear cut as Robbored's little tantrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Fordy62 said: Yes. Agreed. But points are expected at the top, but not necessarily at the bottom. I think it makes our achievements all the more impressive. What do you think is more impressive in cricket, a number 3 scoring 200, or a number 11 scoring 100? Now, my point isn't that Dyche shouldn't win. Maybe he should. But it certainly isn't as clear cut as Robbored's little tantrum. Would be completely dependant on the situations in which both the #3 and #11 hit their scores A double hundred where a #3 has dug in and clawed for his runs with wickets dropping around him is more impressive than a number 11 who has come in swinging and been dropped a few times riding his luck for example. I understand the point about us being on a good run around the bottom, but you say points are expected at the top, the other teams at the top have struggled which has allowed Burnley to be sitting at the top after having such a good month. They've also collected the most points having been unbeaten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 1 minute ago, hodge said: Would be completely dependant on the situations in which both the #3 and #11 hit their scores A double hundred where a #3 has dug in and clawed for his runs with wickets dropping around him is more impressive than a number 11 who has come in swinging and been dropped a few times riding his luck for example. I understand the point about us being on a good run around the bottom, but you say points are expected at the top, the other teams at the top have struggled which has allowed Burnley to be sitting at the top after having such a good month. They've also collected the most points having been unbeaten. You're a dick. (NB this is said in the sort of fashion that I'd say to one of my friends as opposed to the "you're a ******* bellend" meaning). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 9 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: You're a dick. (NB this is said in the sort of fashion that I'd say to one of my friends as opposed to the "you're a ******* bellend" meaning). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 18 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Yes. Agreed. But points are expected at the top, but not necessarily at the bottom. I think it makes our achievements all the more impressive. What do you think is more impressive in cricket, a number 3 scoring 200, or a number 11 scoring 100? Now, my point isn't that Dyche shouldn't win. Maybe he should. But it certainly isn't as clear cut as Robbored's little tantrum. I would think Dyche is also helped by the fact that he was manager for the whole month! LJ was not actually manager technically for the Charlton game. Not sure of the rules, but must be a new one to be manager of the month for a team that you were not manager for part of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 8 hours ago, hodge said: So by extent we keep hiring league 1 manager of the month winners on 1 month contracts and repeat Gary Caldwell it is then. Thankfully Walsall's form in February has been dire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 7 hours ago, Fordy62 said: Why? Our record is more impressive given our position. And that's what it's all about. Relativity. Oh sorry. I forgot, we're talking about Johnson aren't we. I thought you were making a real point. I was making a real point, but it's no surprise that it was lost on you..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 8 hours ago, Robbored said: Dyche is far and away the best candidate and if he doesn't win then the award is a complete farce. Now it's not. The question is simply about how much has been achieved with the tools/budget at your disposal and the success achieved against that backdrop. I'd wager they also look at any relevant circumstances during the period too, such as the level/form of the opposition. It's a little more complicated than results and points. When we lost to Brighton we had injury issues and a manager who barely been here 5 minutes. I reckon those deciding might consider that relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 12 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: It's a little more complicated than results and points. When we lost to Brighton we had injury issues and a manager who barely been here 5 minutes. I reckon those deciding might consider that relevant. Who or what body actually decides the managers of the month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 40 minutes ago, Robbored said: Who or what body actually decides the managers of the month? I think you and @Fordy62 should do this month, rock, paper, scissors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 Thanks Cynic. I guess I could have found that out myself but couldn't be arsed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 What does Lee say about the EU referendum? I'm going to do what he advises. Any manager of the month must know what is what? Uncle TFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin25 Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 What are the qualifications/basis in becoming the manager of the month? Thanks for those who can shed light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 I'd like to see the Month of the Manager - this would be me hosting a radio phone in show in which I interview a football manager about their favourite month. Topics would include notable dates during that month, length of the month and possibly the playing of songs featuring that month in the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 23 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: I'd like to see the Month of the Manager - this would be me hosting a radio phone in show in which I interview a football manager about their favourite month. Topics would include notable dates during that month, length of the month and possibly the playing of songs featuring that month in the title. Hahaha. Try to read that in your head without imaging Alan Partridge as the voice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 40 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Hahaha. Try to read that in your head without imaging Alan Partridge as the voice! Aha ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted March 1, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 19 hours ago, CotswoldRed said: Been statistically proven that there is a very small positive effect (not causal I'm sure) following manager of month awards. This I would like to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Fordy62 said: Hahaha. Try to read that in your head without imaging Alan Partridge as the voice! I've already got Lynne drafting the pitch to 5Live. I'm looking to book Phil Brown as the first guest and I'm pretty sure he loves a bit of August action. Prepare yourself for a 30 minute discussion of Roman Emperors, my birthday, and the outrageous length of the parliamentary recess - plus a phone in debate to decide the best Bank Holiday route to Cornwall (M4/M5 vs M3/A303). Aha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 15 hours ago, Fordy62 said: You're a dick. (NB this is said in the sort of fashion that I'd say to one of my friends as opposed to the "you're a ******* bellend" meaning). ...I like him but surely 'Dyche' is more of a 'Dick' than anyone else mentioned here? Specially considering some of the spelling of many of us Otibers at times.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 55 minutes ago, WhistleHappy said: ...I like him but surely 'Dyche' is more of a 'Dick' than anyone else mentioned here? Specially considering some of the spelling of many of us Otibers at times.. Who very dare you , criticking our spelling . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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