Major Isewater Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Lansdown added: "I'd like to pay tribute to the previous regime. It was Steve Cotterill who brought in Jonathan Kodjia and he has been a great signing. He got that one right, but just didn't get it right around the edges. Interesting. Good article Mr Stockhausen. Read more: http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Bristol-City-won-t-throw-silly-money-transfers/story-29278781-detail/story.html#ixzz48tCEj6oA Follow us: @BristolPost on Twitter | bristolpost on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awbb Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 From the headline under the picture of him busting some flow, it appears out esteemed majority shareholder was disappointed by the way he dressed last time: "Now that Bristol City are back in the Championship, majority shareholder Steve Lansdown is determined to don things a different way."Read more: http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Bristol-City-won-t-throw-silly-money-transfers/story-29278781-detail/story.html#ixzz48tFNCN7a Follow us: @BristolPost on Twitter | bristolpost on Facebook I recommend parachute pants, Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 The first paragraph of the article is one of the most confusing things I've ever read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Nothing in the article that we've not either heard or knew about. It's not a revelation that SL lost faith in Cotterill, that was obvious before Xmas. I posted before that it's taken SL this long to "get it right". In the past he'd employed inexperienced people in senior positions and that's essentially why our club hasn't pushed on as we all would have hoped. Now we have two guys who know their way around the football industry which imv, is about time. Obviously the player movements in and out will the real test for both of them this summer but I have a feeling that'll it'll be a success and I haven't had that feeling for literally ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 29 minutes ago, Robbored said: Nothing in the article that we've not either heard or knew about. It's not a revelation that SL lost faith in Cotterill, that was obvious before Xmas. I posted before that it's taken SL this long to "get it right". In the past he'd employed inexperienced people in senior positions and that's essentially why our club hasn't pushed on as we all would have hoped. Now we have two guys who know their way around the football industry which imv, is about time. Obviously the player movements in and out will the real test for both of them this summer but I have a feeling that'll it'll be a success and I haven't had that feeling for literally ages. When Robbored comes out in full support of both the owner and Management structure/recruiting... it's time to be very afraid indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 It was obvious why. He was taking us back to League 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Biggest comment, that SL alludes to, is that they had this Recruitment policy in place for a couple years, but 'Individuals' sometimes find it difficult to give up their old style.' Regardless of that...we move on. It's good to see SL saying these things and being honest that we've made massive mistakes and thrown large amounts of money at targets to just survive. The unfortunate side of this, is that he's created a rod for his own back. Bristol City under SL, are seen as a Club that throws money around. It's now ingrained in other clubs and agents psychi. It makes it a lot harder for any manager and recruitment team to get players on board full time. It's going to take a while for other Clubs to realise this imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 29 minutes ago, spudski said: Biggest comment, that SL alludes to, is that they had this Recruitment policy in place for a couple years, but 'Individuals' sometimes find it difficult to give up their old style.' Regardless of that...we move on. It's good to see SL saying these things and being honest that we've made massive mistakes and thrown large amounts of money at targets to just survive. The unfortunate side of this, is that he's created a rod for his own back. Bristol City under SL, are seen as a Club that throws money around. It's now ingrained in other clubs and agents psychi. It makes it a lot harder for any manager and recruitment team to get players on board full time. It's going to take a while for other Clubs to realise this imo. Yes maybe, but with Mark Ashton & co I'm sure they will be able to change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topsham Red Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Good Article?! Who the hell is Frank Bunn?? Seriously terrible research! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 30 minutes ago, spudski said: Biggest comment, that SL alludes to, is that they had this Recruitment policy in place for a couple years, but 'Individuals' sometimes find it difficult to give up their old style.' Regardless of that...we move on. It's good to see SL saying these things and being honest that we've made massive mistakes and thrown large amounts of money at targets to just survive. The unfortunate side of this, is that he's created a rod for his own back. Bristol City under SL, are seen as a Club that throws money around. It's now ingrained in other clubs and agents psychi. It makes it a lot harder for any manager and recruitment team to get players on board full time. It's going to take a while for other Clubs to realise this imo. The worrying thing is that it's not the first time that SL has been honest and said we've made massive mistakes.....it's like a bi-annual tradition now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 4 wins, 26 games pretty obvious really. What is much more impressive is that the board took a brave move in who followed him. So far it looks very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 28 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: Yes maybe, but with Mark Ashton & co I'm sure they will be able to change that. According to a Gashead I know it's them that will be doing all the big spending next season, so maybe we can duck under the radar and hand over the mantle of being the Bristol club who pay too much! As for Cotterill, stubbornness. He had to have control and when it became clear he wasn't heeding advice, and when he did he set us up to fail (Derby away) just to prove a point, his position had become untainible. He was so desperate for his winning formation to work, as it had previously, that he couldn't see the wood for the trees. I haven't read the article yet ( hate the Post site) but is the 'edges' comment regarding the academy? He didn't want to use them at all, more interested in signing unattainable names and working almost alone in doing so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 This is all part of the "Phoney War" as we await the start of the summer transfer window madness. SL is talking to other clubs here, hoping the BBC sport site puts this story up so that every other owner/ chairman/CEO/manager around the country sees that Bristol City won't be taken for a ride, again. This is the new, frugal Bristol City, not the old, profligate Bristol City. Meanwhile, every owner/chairman/CEO/manager/agent around the country recalls the eye-watering bids for eyebrow-raising targets less than a year ago and will be aware that we badly need good players. And more than one or two of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 16 minutes ago, RedM said: According to a Gashead I know it's them that will be doing all the big spending next season, so maybe we can duck under the radar and hand over the mantle of being the Bristol club who pay too much! Weren't R*vers offering contracts to all the current squad if they went up? I guess not all will accept, but how big a squad will they need!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 1 hour ago, spudski said: Biggest comment, that SL alludes to, is that they had this Recruitment policy in place for a couple years, but 'Individuals' sometimes find it difficult to give up their old style.' And yet we recruited so well under SC in 2014? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 23 minutes ago, cynic said: If/when Taylor goes, thats 20+ goals they have to find. They will be bidding £10m for Jimmy as soon as Taylor leaves. That'll show us.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 34 minutes ago, Jack Dawe said: This is all part of the "Phoney War" as we await the start of the summer transfer window madness. SL is talking to other clubs here, hoping the BBC sport site puts this story up so that every other owner/ chairman/CEO/manager around the country sees that Bristol City won't be taken for a ride, again. This is the new, frugal Bristol City, not the old, profligate Bristol City. Meanwhile, every owner/chairman/CEO/manager/agent around the country recalls the eye-watering bids for eyebrow-raising targets less than a year ago and will be aware that we badly need good players. And more than one or two of them. Which leads us to a situation where we wont pay what is 'market rate' and we end up with no one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Robin1988 said: And yet we recruited so well under SC in 2014? Horses for courses...different league, different type of players, different contacts. Championship is a far different animal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, spudski said: Horses for courses...different league, different type of players, different contacts. Championship is a far different animal. League one we were the big team on the block, only really us and Sheffield United had the pulling power required to turn a players head, Championship we aren't even the biggest team in the bottom 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MigratedRobin Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 I think all these are reasons to shop abroad for players in the transfer window! Most managers/coaches in Europe will have no real idea about the club and this should work to our advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, spudski said: Horses for courses...different league, different type of players, different contacts. Championship is a far different animal. In L1, we are high up the food chain, an "apex predator" (a hawk chasing a frog) but in the Championship we are in the middle (a frog chasing a grasshopper) or worse (a grasshopper). This is our Championship DNA. However, every dog has its day, and even a frog can transform into a prince (I might be moving away from science here towards fairytale, ie Leicester City). But a grasshopper's got no f*#$ing chance at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 24 minutes ago, spudski said: Horses for courses...different league, different type of players, different contacts. Championship is a far different animal. That doesn't explain why we were unable to get various deals over the line in the summer. The fact we needed to pretty much take the responsibility away from the board to bring players in does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, Jack Dawe said: In L1, we are high up the food chain, an "apex predator" (a hawk chasing a frog) but in the Championship we are in the middle (a frog chasing a grasshopper) or worse (a grasshopper). This is our Championship DNA. However, every dog has its day, and even a frog can transform into a prince (I might be moving away from science here towards fairytale, ie Leicester City). But a grasshopper's got no f*#$ing chance at this level. If I drive my combine harvester over the field, your frog (and your dog) are getting crushed. The grasshopper may be tossed about a bit but will survive. It's horses for courses. The grass (Premiershit) isn't always greener... If you want to try this out I'll give you the keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, Chivs said: If I drive my combine harvester over the field, your frog (and your dog) are getting crushed. The grasshopper may be tossed about a bit but will survive. It's horses for courses. The grass (Premiershit) isn't always greener... If you want to try this out I'll give you the keys. How many acres have you got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 8 minutes ago, Jack Dawe said: In L1, we are high up the food chain, an "apex predator" (a hawk chasing a frog) but in the Championship we are in the middle (a frog chasing a grasshopper) or worse (a grasshopper). This is our Championship DNA. However, every dog has its day, and even a frog can transform into a prince (I might be moving away from science here towards fairytale, ie Leicester City). But a grasshopper's got no f*#$ing chance at this level. Quite . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 17 minutes ago, Jack Dawe said: In L1, we are high up the food chain, an "apex predator" (a hawk chasing a frog) but in the Championship we are in the middle (a frog chasing a grasshopper) or worse (a grasshopper). This is our Championship DNA. However, every dog has its day, and even a frog can transform into a prince (I might be moving away from science here towards fairytale, ie Leicester City). But a grasshopper's got no f*#$ing chance at this level. Is this Bristol City FC we are talking about, or an episode of Kung Fu? Mind you I can't remember Caine saying " a grasshopper's got no f*#$ing chance at this level." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderMB Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 I don't really like Lansdown airing our dirty laundry in public, especially when we've heard enough from other ex-managers about the state of our board and how the club has been run in the past. If/when Cotterill lands a new job, it'll be interesting to see if he has any words for his time here. There's very little actually said here, which leads me to believe that Cotterill gave a list of the players he wants, was told they were too expensive, and he stubbornly sat back and refused to budge. This led to the attempted panic buys at the end of the first window, and ultimately Cotterill's job being in question from the start. The job of a manager is a fragile one. You could work miracles one year, and your job is questioned mere months later. I think Cotterill knew this, and once he didn't get the players he wanted he accepted his fate and waited the job out until he was let go and compensated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambodinho Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Does anyone think the Garita signing was Cotterill being dick and trying to prove a point? You want cheap signings, I'll give you cheap signings!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 2 hours ago, cynic said: If/when Taylor goes, thats 20+ goals they have to find. My Gas friend told me rumours are rife that they are getting Lambert back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 59 minutes ago, Robin1988 said: That doesn't explain why we were unable to get various deals over the line in the summer. The fact we needed to pretty much take the responsibility away from the board to bring players in does. Look at the players SC was trying to bring in over the Summer. We matched wages on a lot of deals. The fact is, certain people don't seem to like the fact, that Bristol City are an unfashionable Club in this league, and have a proven record of bobbing about between Championship and League 1. All the players that SC went after, for different reasons, wanted to play for other teams and not us. All quality players. Some wanted to find clubs that gave them a better opportunity, in there mind, of better success in this league, and maybe a chance of promotion. And you make not like this, but SC is marmite. A lot of footballers don't want to play for him. Some will. some won't. It wasn't all about money. There were also other issues, regarding contracts, that had been agreed in principle but it when it came to the crunch didn't add up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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