Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Good to see sterling is making a good recovery against the euro?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunnyfunt Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 We are really struggling for a decent set piece taker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 still surprised we havnt experimented with Stones as a defensive midfielder Looks more of one / as likely than a centre half to me at the present time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 How many of these 11 would you expect to start v Russia? 8 of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Hopefully not too many unless they up their game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Says it all that hodgson is pissing around with different formations. He really doesn't have a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 £50m for Sterling. Fifty million pounds. His end product is atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: £50m for Sterling. Fifty million pounds. His end product is atrocious. Like he gives a shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Can anyone see us keeping a clean sheet in any game in the euros? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Bad pen that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Thank god we've got Wayner to come back in, phew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadredfred Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, Super said: Can anyone see us keeping a clean sheet in any game in the euros? Nope! We look incredibly nervy at the back. Walker, Rose and Stones all very attack minded too. That's great, but that only leaves Cahill. As great as Alli is, and I think he should start - he will be targeted for his short fuse by more experienced players and teams. Woy needs a word. Oh and lets get all missed pens out the way now please. Hoddle says it was a positive penalty. What does that even mean?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, deadredfred said: Nope! We look incredibly nervy at the back. Walker, Rose and Stones all very attack minded too. That's great, but that only leaves Cahill. As great as Alli is, and I think he should start - he will be targeted for his short fuse by more experienced players and teams. Woy needs a word. Oh and lets get all missed pens out the way now please. Hoddle says it was a positive penalty. What does that even mean?! If only we still had Eileen Drewery in the back room team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 19 minutes ago, Super said: Says it all that hodgson is pissing around with different formations. He really doesn't have a clue. Indeed. What on Earth is he thinking about, experimenting in a pre-tournament friendly? It's almost as if the fool wants a Plan B... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Only positive is the full backs who look ok, Ali looks ordinary tonight as do a few others, hopefully it's just a bit of rustiness but can't say I've been that impressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 16 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: £50m for Sterling. Fifty million pounds. His end product is atrocious. Junior Bent Mk 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, INCRED said: Only positive is the full backs who look ok, Ali looks ordinary tonight as do a few others, hopefully it's just a bit of rustiness but can't say I've been that impressed The other positive is that it will be over in less than 10 mins or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 I like nothing better than a good atmosphere at the football. But that noise coming from that band is atrocious. It's alright starting songs of but don't bloody play all the way through the chant . Sound like bloody snake charmers. Must be getting old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 got away with that there, poor offside decision saved us conceding a penalty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 9 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: Indeed. What on Earth is he thinking about, experimenting in a pre-tournament friendly? It's almost as if the fool wants a Plan B... If he had a plan A it might be handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, Super said: If he had a plan A it might be handy. Not convinced he can take all the flak for there being a complete lack of English talent available! You can't polish a turd and with the distinct lack of good English defenders I think any manager is going to struggle to win games against top teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Top save that from Hart. Really worrying how many chances we conceded against an average team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 We are all over the place, sure Gareth Bale can't wait to come up against this defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Not convinced he can take all the flak for there being a complete lack of English talent available! You can't polish a turd and with the distinct lack of good English defenders I think any manager is going to struggle to win games against top teams. I sort of agree, but I think we all expect that his selection for the first game will see Rooney back in, Sterling will play and he will attempt to shoe horn in a probably not fully fit Wilshere and ignore the players who have been in form for most of the season and have starred in many of the better results, it's what all English coaches have done at tournaments since 1970 with a slight departure in 1990 and 1996. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, Super said: If he had a plan A it might be handy. We qualified with a 100% record and the best goal difference of any team and, over the past year, we've beaten 2 of the 3 favourites in friendlies over the past year. We've played poorly tonight in a friendly where the squad have had two days of training and are missing 8 players bbut we've won anyway and Turkey certainly aren't a terrible side by a long shot. I'm not convinced we'll do brilliantly in the Euros but much of that is due to defensive deficiencies which any manager would face - of all centre-backs reasonably in contention for an England place, only one is a first-team regular. That's not really Hodgson's fault. I'm not claiming Hodgson is a brilliant manager but I'm also not convinced he's done a bad job, or that there is another manager waiting in the wings who would do significantly better. What I am convinced on is that, before a major tournament, the only thing more tedious than the casual supporters who turn up for major tournaments are convinced we're going to storm it is the negative dullards making whiney comments even when England win. It's unnecessary and it's boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: I sort of agree, but I think we all expect that his selection for the first game will see Rooney back in, Sterling will play and he will attempt to shoe horn in a probably not fully fit Wilshere and ignore the players who have been in form for most of the season and have starred in many of the better results, it's what all English coaches have done at tournaments since 1970 with a slight departure in 1990 and 1996. It might be fairer to criticise Hodgson for that once he's actually done it. To be fair to the guy, he's constantly referred to as a safe manger who perseveres with a tried and tested selection but he was quick to bring Alli and Dier in when they started well at the beginning of the season and I wouldn't be surprised if at least 2 of the 3 you name don't start. It's also worth remembering it's not just about the first game. In both 1990 and 1996 we were pretty dire in our first matches and we didn't really get going in Italia '90 until Platt came off the bench in the second round and did enough to convince Robson to start him for the rest of the tournament. Teams can evolve during tournaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Am I being stupid, but why are Wright and Dixon saying Vardy dived. The guy pushed him over, so that is a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 The game today made it clear to me that we have to play high energy, pressing football. No Rooney, Wilshire or Sterling. Get players involved who will disrupt the opposition. Defensively we are shit. We have to play Dier at centre half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 6 minutes ago, wayne allisons tongues said: Am I being stupid, but why are Wright and Dixon saying Vardy dived. The guy pushed him over, so that is a penalty. It's a penalty these days but he clearly made the most of slight contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Personally don't rate Stones. Whenever I've seen him play he always seems to try too much without doing the simple stuff first. He has potential but first choice for me is easily Cahill and Smalling. Still think our best form of defence is attack. Kane, Vardy, Alli, Rooney (in midfield), and Rashford (presuming he goes). Think that's the way forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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