P'head Red Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 To be honest, things can change very fast. Notice how he says "ideally 8, realistically 4". He's answered that question before the transfer window has opened, he knows that the fans don't like being let down. By saying "realistically 4" he's setting the bar low, we might sign more, which would exceed that expectation. Also, why would he say whether if any of the players we've been linked with in the media are true? He even said that he's not going to respond to questions relating to players in an open manner, the cards are "close to his chest". What will be will be at the end of the day, but I don't think that we will make a repeat of last summer at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 5 hours ago, Super said: How depressing! Especially when that lists contains El-Abd and Agard who really don't have a future here. And no emergency loans next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 1 hour ago, BRISTOL86 said: The season has literally just finished. Let's save the melodrama for another day! It's over two months until the new season kicks off. We were hoping for some early signings so surely we should have some early panic !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 28 minutes ago, P'head Red said: To be honest, things can change very fast. Notice how he says "ideally 8, realistically 4". He's answered that question before the transfer window has opened, he knows that the fans don't like being let down. By saying "realistically 4" he's setting the bar low, we might sign more, which would exceed that expectation. Also, why would he say whether if any of the players we've been linked with in the media are true? He even said that he's not going to respond to questions relating to players in an open manner, the cards are "close to his chest". What will be will be at the end of the day, but I don't think that we will make a repeat of last summer at all. Don't come on here with your common sense approach ,it won't be tolerated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Come on Tommy, don't sit on the fence, tell us what you really think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 39 minutes ago, BigTone said: What is your tipple today Tommy ? Parafin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 I'm already boo-ing. This is totally unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 2 hours ago, bristolcitysweden said: Can anyone explain the loan system for next season. How many players can sugar dad bring in with roap on throath? We could well be down before the season starts. I am the Eggman, they are the Eggmen I AM THE WALRUS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Nob Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 1 hour ago, nebristolred said: bristolcitysweden surely on the piss Corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 1 hour ago, bristolcitysweden said: They need to be flogged now. Last few windows repeated and we are down even before the season starts Put the vodka away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 2 hours ago, bristolcitysweden said: Why would anyone trust a football club that has been shit since 1897? I'll keep it simple. If the club and everything and everybody associated with it make you so bloody miserable why do you bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza1982 Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Jesus! The season has not even finished... Give it time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 SC also talked in terms of 3 Windows, and said we would need, if memory serves, something like 6 if we were promoted. 6 seems to me the sort of number Lee et al are looking at. I guess they will be going for 4 first choice, 2 strong backups (including a goalie), and then look at u21s including the two strikers from the u21s last season, the under 21s who appeared for first team last season, and the two already signed since the end of our season. There is no reason, except our inept policy re youth in the recent past, why our youth can't come in to the team. Believe in Lee. I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 13 hours ago, P'head Red said: To be honest, things can change very fast. Notice how he says "ideally 8, realistically 4". He's answered that question before the transfer window has opened, he knows that the fans don't like being let down. By saying "realistically 4" he's setting the bar low, we might sign more, which would exceed that expectation. Also, why would he say whether if any of the players we've been linked with in the media are true? He even said that he's not going to respond to questions relating to players in an open manner, the cards are "close to his chest". What will be will be at the end of the day, but I don't think that we will make a repeat of last summer at all. Exactly. 4 would be 4 times better than last summer. And look what a difference Matthews, Tomlin, Odemwingie and Goulbourne made mid season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 14 hours ago, 1960maaan said: We were hoping for some early signings so surely we should have some early panic !!! No lack of panic, just confusion about where to post. Is panic about lack of transfers allowed on this page, or should it go on the transfers page. I don't want to post in the wrong place. I'm not sure about departures either. Waggy leaving seems to have been moved to this page, so presumably the transfer page is for incoming players and this one for outgoing? I want to say some thing about the proposed swap with Matthews coming in and Flint going out and it's doing my head in.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 13 minutes ago, italian dave said: No lack of panic, just confusion about where to post. Is panic about lack of transfers allowed on this page, or should it go on the transfers page. I don't want to post in the wrong place. I'm not sure about departures either. Wagging leaving seems to have been moved to this page, so presumably the transfer page is for incoming players and this one for outgoing? I want to say some thing about the proposed swap with Matthews coming in and Flint going out and it's doing my head in.... If I were you I'd go for the scatter gun approach. Post on every forum and leave the Mods to delete or move them to the right one For anyone not pannicing, the end of last season we could just about fill a bench with young lads coming through. We have since lost 5 loans, and Waggy going. Add to that rumours that Flint may leave with no new signings anywhere to be seen, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 15 hours ago, bristolcitysweden said: They need to be flogged now. I don't know, you Swedes and what turns you on !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Gawd he's not an inspiring speaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 16 hours ago, bristolcitysweden said: Why would anyone trust a football club that has been shit since 1897? Because things change , evolve . There was even a poster on here called " Always the Bridesmaid " had to change his pseudonym due to the team winning THE DOUBLE , most un-City like ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 15 hours ago, nebristolred said: bristolcitysweden surely on a pisstake If 'pisstake ' is another planet , then I agree with you . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reformed_red Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 I'm not sure what people expect? LJ to say in the media these are the players we want and this is how much we will pay for them.... He says it himself: a manager won't talk about this in the media for all the reasons he gives. Look what happened when MA came in - loan signings galore. I'm not aware of any teams that have done their business yet, we don't even know what 24 teams will be in the league! Patience lads and ladies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 The fact that LJ and Mark Ashton are "shocked" by the money being asked for players unfortunately shows their lack of experience at this level. I think LJ will be a good manager for us but this is one of the drawbacks. Cotts and Keith Burt are probably quietly smiling to themselves since this is exactly what happened to them last Summer, the same could easily happen again. We start off with a small squad and say we won't pay silly money. Our original targets go to other clubs and as time goes on agents see we are getting desperate so ask even more when we enquire for players so we end up signing hardly anybody. We've got to be prepared to pay the going rate this time and get some in early or we'll be in trouble with no emergency loans, we might also have to get some long term loans before the window closes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 17 minutes ago, ashton_fan said: The fact that LJ and Mark Ashton are "shocked" by the money being asked for players unfortunately shows their lack of experience at this level. I think LJ will be a good manager for us but this is one of the drawbacks. Cotts and Keith Burt are probably quietly smiling to themselves since this is exactly what happened to them last Summer, the same could easily happen again. We start off with a small squad and say we won't pay silly money. Our original targets go to other clubs and as time goes on agents see we are getting desperate so ask even more when we enquire for players so we end up signing hardly anybody. We've got to be prepared to pay the going rate this time and get some in early or we'll be in trouble with no emergency loans, we might also have to get some long term loans before the window closes. There definitely seems to be a disconnect (an Ashton word no doubt) between our ambition and our transfer policy. Don't harp on about Premiership ambition then moan that we can't compete financially. The sensible ambition is to aim for mid-table safety, and to do so would take a handful of decent, sensible signings and some luck. I worry about selling Flint. Losing two characters in Flint and Waggy could dent that team spirit that we keep hearing about. It's difficult to replace players and maintain that togetherness. Johnson must have more to him than he gave away in that interview... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 16 hours ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said: I am the Eggman, they are the Eggmen I AM THE WALRUS! Lennon and McCartney were stoned when they wrote that and on acid when they wrote Lucy in the Sky with diamonds. Not relevant I know but just saying............, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Part of me says be patient and trust but I did that last summer and was let down. There is a conflict between what is said at times. We have premier league ambition but can't compete financially. Sometimes it would be easier to stop talking and just act. I get LJ needs to talk sometimes. He's the face of the club but MA and SL should just do their background work. We do need 4 and that'll be signings. Hopefully we can add another couple high functioning loans. I'm ok with some of the U21s being around as well. I'm ok with not being a top 6 team. Progress is important though. We need to add quality to this squad to have a better time staying up. Then do the same again in the coming Windows. I'm not expecting to win as often as we did the end of this season but I also expect more than 4 by January. If we can do that we've progressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 25 minutes ago, Robbored said: Lennon and McCartney were stoned when they wrote that and on acid when they wrote Lucy in the Sky with diamonds. Not relevant I know but just saying............, Lennon and McCartney were stoned when they wrote that All they said was ' this piece of Halibut is fit for Jéhovah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 I see no disconnect between the aim of reaching the Premiership and our cautious approach with transfer money. We are not aiming for promotion next season but building a financially viable squad for promotion, with many coming through from u21s, in a few years time. We have already secured two excellent new u21 signings for next season. The Times this week had a whole article on the wrong way to approach the Championship by spending money a club doesn't have in a disparate hope of promotion. It also referred to clubs' closing their academies as short sighted. City DO have the right policy - just BELIEVE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Sorry won't let me correct disparate to desperate in my last post ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Sorry won't let me correct disparate to desperate in my last post ! deafparrot times indeed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 27 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: deafparrot times indeed . Deafknitleigh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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