glynriley Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 4 minutes ago, RedDave said: People love to hate Sterling. Wonder if other countries fans hate their own players No you're probably right, the Colombian fans for example are very tolerant. I bet Andres Escobar wished a few people slagged him off on the internet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 7 minutes ago, Loco Rojo said: I hate that effing band and I hate their version of Rule Britannia They are playing the worse chant in football at the moment. I think palace sing it . Absolutely horrendous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 4 minutes ago, RedDave said: People love to hate Sterling. Wonder if other countries fans hate their own players No hatred in this thread that I've seen. Just don't think he's much good any more and being billy big balls when you've done f all tends to irritate people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, Murraysrightplum said: No hatred in this thread that I've seen. Just don't think he's much good any more and being billy big balls when you've done f all tends to irritate people You always get a nibble from RD when you date criticise Sterling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 And to answer the question, yes other countries do dislike their own players when they are in the national team but playing badly. The Spanish in particular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, Murraysrightplum said: And to answer the question, yes other countries do dislike their own players when they are in the national team but playing badly. The Spanish in particular Heck, they dislike their own players when they're winning tournaments! We should be so lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 6 minutes ago, Murraysrightplum said: No hatred in this thread that I've seen. Just don't think he's much good any more and being billy big balls when you've done f all tends to irritate people Just short on confidence. Can't understand why people have written him off already. If he makes a mistake then people are more critical which is why I used the word 'hate'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 5 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: You always get a nibble from RD when you date criticise Sterling! I think you remember our conversations a lot better than I do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 5 minutes ago, Murraysrightplum said: And to answer the question, yes other countries do dislike their own players when they are in the national team but playing badly. The Spanish in particular Lot of that is pro/anti Catalonian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 He shouldn't even be in the squad with the attacking options we've got. Done nothing all season. Rooney gets the same criticism when he's not playing well but still picked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 9 minutes ago, Murraysrightplum said: No hatred in this thread that I've seen. Just don't think he's much good any more and being billy big balls when you've done f all tends to irritate people Spot on, showed as a very young man that money was a bigger motivation even more than playing for his country, him and Manc deserve each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 3 minutes ago, RedDave said: Just short on confidence. Can't understand why people have written him off already. If he makes a mistake then people are more critical which is why I used the word 'hate'. From what I can gather the one thing he's not short of is confidence! I'm genuinely curious as to what his supporters feel he actually brings to the team? His end product, be that finishing/crossing is verging on comically bad. Were it not for his pace I'd struggle to name a redeeming attribute based on this season's form, and even that's useless if you consistently fail to deliver an end product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 22 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Out of interest who do u think will be the 2 to miss out . Sturridge and Townsend maybe or will he only take 2 keepers I think it *could* do Daniel Sturridge the world of good to be left behind. As Klopp said, he needs to understand pain and if he pulls out of training on the eve of the Euro's then he should take his medicine... Probably in Marbs and it'll probably do him no good. For a man that's had knock backs - man city, Chelsea, he sure does have some strong self belief. If he had the setbacks and reacted well to them - such as booted out of Liverpool and left out of the Euro's - it might ignite something in him. I'm not convinced considering his sustained self-belief and assurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Spot on, showed as a very young man that money was a bigger motivation even more than playing for his country, him and Manc deserve each other. Yep, absolutely this. Showed himself for what he was during the whole transfer debacle and that's all well and good if you can back it up on the pitch, which he is yet to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Amazing stat that Rashford has scored with his first shot in international, Europa League and Premier Leauge football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 8 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: From what I can gather the one thing he's not short of is confidence! I'm genuinely curious as to what his supporters feel he actually brings to the team? His end product, be that finishing/crossing is verging on comically bad. Were it not for his pace I'd struggle to name a redeeming attribute based on this season's form, and even that's useless if you consistently fail to deliver an end product. Every player can lose confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Anyone spotted Never yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 1 minute ago, RedDave said: Every player can lose confidence. indeed but 2 years down line, you would expect some sign of improvement. I wonder if Jose believes that about Memphis Slim?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 6 minutes ago, 29AR said: I think it *could* do Daniel Sturridge the world of good to be left behind. As Klopp said, he needs to understand pain and if he pulls out of training on the eve of the Euro's then he should take his medicine... Probably in Marbs and it'll probably do him no good. For a man that's had knock backs - man city, Chelsea, he sure does have some strong self belief. If he had the setbacks and reacted well to them - such as booted out of Liverpool and left out of the Euro's - it might ignite something in him. I'm not convinced considering his sustained self-belief and assurance. Those knock backs also made him minted for life so I'm sure that gave him enough self belief,what puts him apart from sterling is that sturridge is a good finisher,just for the life of me I don't know what sterling brings to any team apart from pace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 3 minutes ago, RedDave said: Every player can lose confidence. No no no once you're paid 140k a week apparently you lose the ability to ever doubt yourself, play badly or fail to find form. Completely agree that Sterling has underperformed at Man City but he didn't ask to have a £50m price tag on him, it's just the way of football. As long as the effort is there then you can't really criticise him as a person. Just his performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, RedDave said: Every player can lose confidence. Undoubtedly. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing I'd like more than to be proved wrong and see him go on to be an England legend. Believe it or not I don't want promising young English players to fail. But his decision making, crossing and finishing need to come on immeasurably for him to kick on, he's so frustrating to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 3 minutes ago, nebristolred said: No no no once you're paid 140k a week apparently you lose the ability to ever doubt yourself, play badly or fail to find form. Completely agree that Sterling has underperformed at Man City but he didn't ask to have a £50m price tag on him, it's just the way of football. As long as the effort is there then you can't really criticise him as a person. Just his performances. and what will the excuse be next season?. The bottom line is he would not get into Barcelona, Real Madrid, Athletico Madrid or Bayern Munich's teams, not fit to lace Ronaldo's boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliesboots Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 10 minutes ago, Jack Dawe said: Anyone spotted Never yet? I am here....what should I be looking out for...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 3 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: and what will the excuse be next season?. The bottom line is he would not get into Barcelona, Real Madrid, Athletico Madrid or Bayern Munich's teams, not fit to lace Ronaldo's boots. Well obviously! What are you even on about, no one has tried claiming otherwise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 8 minutes ago, nebristolred said: No no no once you're paid 140k a week apparently you lose the ability to ever doubt yourself, play badly or fail to find form. Completely agree that Sterling has underperformed at Man City but he didn't ask to have a £50m price tag on him, it's just the way of football. As long as the effort is there then you can't really criticise him as a person. Just his performances. He did basically ask to leave though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 4 minutes ago, Charliesboots said: I am here....what should I be looking out for...? #? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 38 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Think you have to take 3 keepers. Frankly I'd rather see Townsend than Sterling but when Roy has a favourite it doesn't matter how badly they play it seems. You do have to name 3 keepers but Republic of Ireland named Niall Quinn as there 3rd choice keeper for one of the tournaments in the 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 8 minutes ago, nebristolred said: Well obviously! What are you even on about, no one has tried claiming otherwise! Sterling and Sturridge IMHO represent everything that is wrong about the English game, for instance I wonder if Pellegrini would have signed Sterling given a choice?, I know that is not his fault but a blind man could see that a 19 year old with delusions of grandeur who tired himself out trying to manufacture a move away was never going get much sympathy, a 19 year old should be playing and improving. and pretty much every manager/coach cannot be wrong about Sturridge and his reaction to injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 14 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Those knock backs also made him minted for life so I'm sure that gave him enough self belief,what puts him apart from sterling is that sturridge is a good finisher,just for the life of me I don't know what sterling brings to any team apart from pace To be honest I don't like either; just as I don't wilshere. Still at least Roy has taken golden boy off so he can't get injured (can't prove he runs for 90 mind) and Roy will feel he can take him to France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 4 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Sterling and Sturridge IMHO represent everything that is wrong about the English game, for instance I wonder if Pellegrini would have signed Sterling given a choice?, I know that is not his fault but a blind man could see that a 19 year old with delusions of grandeur who tired himself out trying to manufacture a move away was never going get much sympathy, a 19 year old should be playing and improving. and pretty much every manager/coach cannot be wrong about Sturridge and his reaction to injuries. I agree that the situation is symptomatic of everything wrong with modern football, not just the English game. But to suggest it's his fault or to criticise him for it is daft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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