Gillies Downs Leeds Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, 29AR said: To be honest I don't like either; just as I don't wilshere. Still at least Roy has taken golden boy off so he can't get injured (can't prove he runs for 90 mind) and Roy will feel he can take him to France. For me Wilshire and Stones were our 2 best players in the first half.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 4 minutes ago, 29AR said: To be honest I don't like either; just as I don't wilshere. Still at least Roy has taken golden boy off so he can't get injured (can't prove he runs for 90 mind) and Roy will feel he can take him to France. Couldn't agree more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 3 minutes ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: For me Wilshire and Stones were our 2 best players in the first half.. The squad should not be based upon performances in friendlies: it should be the best performers across the season. IMO Wilshere should not even have the opportunity to impress in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Get in Wazza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, nebristolred said: I agree that the situation is symptomatic of everything wrong with modern football, not just the English game. But to suggest it's his fault or to criticise him for it is daft. He's 19 years old FFS, no other profession I can think of would have taken that sort of shit from a kid, again for instance I suspect the mega rich Manc owners would have let him rot. For a 19 year old player who has signed a legally binding contract to manufacture a move in the public way he did is ridiculous and disrespectful, it's the tail wagging the dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 5 minutes ago, 29AR said: The squad should not be based upon performances in friendlies: it should be the best performers across the season. IMO Wilshere should not even have the opportunity to impress in this game. I kinda agree with you in terms of deserving, but Wilshere on form is easily our best midfielder that's the problem, except maybe Dele Alli now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Good goal that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Well done Raheem (see, I can do it) and fantastic finish from Rooney. Mad how anyone can suggest he shouldn't be going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 blimey,I bet we were all waiting for sterling to hit the only defender with that pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: He's 19 years old FFS, no other profession I can think of would have taken that sort of shit from a kid, again for instance I suspect the mega rich Manc owners would have let him rot. For a 19 year old player who has signed a legally binding contract to manufacture a move in the public way he did is ridiculous and disrespectful, it's the tail wagging the dog. Yeah of course, but I was referring to his performances, as were you I am assuming. Holding your employer to ransom like that is not something that would occur elsewhere no, but it's hardly an English problem and it's most likely 90% manufactured by his agent. But agreed, it is a bit scummy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 4 minutes ago, nebristolred said: I kinda agree with you in terms of deserving, but Wilshere on form is easily our best midfielder that's the problem, except maybe Dele Alli now. But he's not on form so you go with the players who are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craven arms Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 He's the best ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, nebristolred said: Yeah of course, but I was referring to his performances, as were you I am assuming. Holding your employer to ransom like that is not something that would occur elsewhere no, but it's hardly an English problem and it's most likely 90% manufactured by his agent. But agreed, it is a bit scummy. As for performances, we have virtually nothing to judge him on over the past 2 years, he has gone backwards and that can only be blamed on one thing, not the fans or the media or even his agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Looks like a shoot out between rashford and sturridge then,rashford for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 4 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: But he's not on form so you go with the players who are Agreed but we are dropping a CM and if it was a case of Fabian Delph v Jack Wilshere going I'd take Wilshere every day of the week. 3 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: As for performances, we have virtually nothing to judge him on over the past 2 years, he has gone backwards and that can only be blamed on one thing, not the fans or the media or even his agent. That's fine, and I absolutely agree with you. It's the BS like 'money was a bigger motivation even more than playing for his country' that are absolute nonsense. I highly doubt that he thought moving to Man City would jeopardise his England chances. In fact, looking at the incredible facilities Man City now have, it's entirely possible that it would be a positive factor in moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said: Looks like a shoot out between rashford and sturridge then,rashford for me Agree, Rashford will be like a very young Rooney or Owen absolutely no fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 3 minutes ago, nebristolred said: Agreed but we are dropping a CM and if it was a case of Fabian Delph v Jack Wilshere going I'd take Wilshere every day of the week. Delph is out injured so it's not going to be either or. In that battle so would I, but I wouldn't have either in my 23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, nebristolred said: Agreed but we are dropping a CM and if it was a case of Fabian Delph v Jack Wilshere going I'd take Wilshere every day of the week. That's fine, and I absolutely agree with you. It's the BS like 'money was a bigger motivation even more than playing for his country' that are absolute nonsense. I highly doubt that he thought moving to Man City would jeopardise his England chances. In fact, looking at the incredible facilities Man City now have, it's entirely possible that it would be a positive factor in moving. Dropping 2 midfielders,obviously delph(why just why) and then it's between drinkwater and Wiltshire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Given that we are taking very few wingers and that we do quite well with a diamond, an abundance of CM's is a must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 The same things being said about sterling were being said about wilshire on here a week or so ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 3 minutes ago, nebristolred said: That's fine, and I absolutely agree with you. It's the BS like 'money was a bigger motivation even more than playing for his country' that are absolute nonsense. I highly doubt that he thought moving to Man City would jeopardise his England chances. In fact, looking at the incredible facilities Man City now have, it's entirely possible that it would be a positive factor in moving. Well we'll agree to disagree on that one. Truly great players perform at a consistent level, week in week out and players in his position with the ability that he showed 2 years ago (winger/striker) should be taking teams apart almost single handedly, something has gone badly wrong and I don't buy the confidence argument personally, Manc had a poor season by their standards but he shone pretty much every week in another under performing team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 5 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Dropping 2 midfielders,obviously delph(why just why) and then it's between drinkwater and Wiltshire Not a chance in hell that Hodgson would take Drinkwater over Wilshere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Someone on here mentioned Aaron Mooy a while ago, he looks a very decent player for the Aussies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Not a chance in hell that Hodgson would take Drinkwater over Wilshere. Nah, that would take bollox. Considering he's still shit scared of Liverpool fans.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Well that was dire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 4 minutes ago, nebristolred said: Given that we are taking very few wingers and that we do quite well with a diamond, an abundance of CM's is a must. 2 players will be cut,1 is a forward I would of thought,would you pick Wilshire above barkley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 5 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Well we'll agree to disagree on that one. Truly great players perform at a consistent level, week in week out and players in his position with the ability that he showed 2 years ago (winger/striker) should be taking teams apart almost single handedly, something has gone badly wrong and I don't buy the confidence argument personally, Manc had a poor season by their standards but he shone pretty much every week in another under performing team. So what's your theory? He's intentionally playing badly? Really?! And I'd love to know why you think moving to Man City meant he didn't care about playing for England. How can you even link those two? This is without the benefit of hindsight mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fRed Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Dire goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Cracking finish tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 I like that goal,was that his way of telling Roy I don't like playing at the back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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