LondonBristolian Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Robin1988 said: I was being facetious, my bad. Have a look in the Allardyce thread. Sorry - my misunderstanding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride of the west Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 6 minutes ago, INCRED said: So Barnsley have suspended their assistant manager pending an investigation. LJ worked with him at Barnsley and wanted him to join him here at City so hope LJ isn't implicated or involved in anything dodgy when with the Tykes! To be honest if LJ was on the take at barnsley, Wright would have jumped at the chance of joining us. What with Lansdown splashing the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 12 minutes ago, JasonM88 said: Well this was all set up by the telegraph this summer, I can't imagine it's that common The Telegraph received the information about the dodgy dealings 10 months ago, they have been working on it all for 10 months, the 'stings' have been more recent. Was LJ Barnsley's manager 10 months ago ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 I honestly won't be surprised if they are all at it. A river of dirty money flowing in and out of football. Hope I'm wrong, but if thousands are being offered around tax free, in little paper bags then it won't surprise me. Can't imagine an assistant manager at a league one club earns a huge amount of money, and if someone offs you a few grand of non-traceable money then of course the temptation will be there. Not saying it's right by the way, just that it really doesn't surprise me. 4 games away from the sack and someone offers you money you are pretty sure you'll need? We'd all be tempted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 9 minutes ago, DavidNoble said: Please oh please can LJ have not been involved in any of this... Frankly I don't think LJ is that stupid, given what we also know about the money he makes away from football he's unlikely to be on the take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Could well be the reason for turning us down. He was clearly balls deep in some dodgy dealings at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Greed breeds greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Mawson we were linked with but Hourihane was merely mentioned by a few posters on here as a suggestion / hope that we may sign him, there was never any club link to him & my understanding is that Hourihane doesn't like / get on with LJ so any chance of us signing was pretty non existent. Not sure if it's in anyway related & there is no mention of Hourihane (or Mawson) actually being involved but I found it strange that in the YouTube video of Barnsley's Q & A session with Cryne, Heckingbottom & their COO that it was already mentioned that Hourihane wasn't interested in signing a new contract & that was in the summer after winning promotion & the JPT & with a season to run on his contract, seems a very early decision to make & to inform the club of those intentions as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ackbird Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Does everyone think that this is how a lot of transfer dealings happen with wads of cash in brown envelopes? tip of the iceberg perhaps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 9 minutes ago, B1ackbird said: Does everyone think that this is how a lot of transfer dealings happen with wads of cash in brown envelopes? tip of the iceberg perhaps... It was high in the 80s. George Graham was found guilty (if memory serves). Alan Sugar (when Spurs were trying to sign Teddy Sheringham) said in his biography that 'Clough wanted a bung'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 It would seem that this sort of thing is rife throughout the industry of football, the trouble is how do you stop it?! No doubt there are going to be a few casualties in the fall out of this but who will replace these people and who says they are "clean"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 23 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said: Could well be the reason for turning us down. He was clearly balls deep in some dodgy dealings at the time. Almost certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin 101 Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 I wouldnt be suprised if over 75% of clubs have been involved in these sorts of deals. Worrying times but at least it's coming out. Don't like the Telegraph much but they may have done an important service to the sport we love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted September 28, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 So TW was widely expected to join us at the end of the season, the Telegraph's fraudsters paid him £5k to convince his club to sign certain players and get certain players signed up to their "agency", TW then rejects us claiming it was his love for the people at Barnsley that made him want to stay Close. Shave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballwinningcentrehalf Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 With the ridiculous amounts of money circulating in the game you'd have to be very optimistic to believe it is anything but absolutely rotten to its core. There are no doubt bungs, favours and dodgy deals being done at every turn. I'd be far more surprised if there is a single league club that is totally clean of any of these activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Tommy Wright suspended by Barnsley. Seems a good choice we dodged him. I suspect several careers will be ended every night between 8pm-9pm this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayOutWest Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 6 hours ago, ballwinningcentrehalf said: I'd be far more surprised if there is a single league club that is totally clean of any of these activities. I can think of one. They don't actually buy anyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliesboots Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Reading the articles in The Telegraph now....I think he may be fxxxxd. Is there any surprise that Cellino is caught up in this affair too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 6 minutes ago, Charliesboots said: Is there any surprise that Cellino is caught up in this affair too? Frankly, no. But then the real scandal with Cellino is how he somehow managed to become an owner of a football league club at all, consisting his history. Makes you wonder how he managed to get through that process; would suggest it might not be all squeaky clean either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 8 hours ago, pride of the west said: To be honest if LJ was on the take at barnsley, Wright would have jumped at the chance of joining us. What with Lansdown splashing the cash. That's a very good point. I think with Johnson he has been pretty switched on with his financial affairs outside of football. Not sure he would put all that at risk for a few quid. Managers we've had in the past, would be more concerned about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 7 hours ago, Ian M said: So TW was widely expected to join us at the end of the season, the Telegraph's fraudsters paid him £5k to convince his club to sign certain players and get certain players signed up to their "agency", TW then rejects us claiming it was his love for the people at Barnsley that made him want to stay Close. Shave. did he reject us? or did we get a whif of what he was up too?, that would make more sense as it goes along with ashton and Lansdown's tag line of finding people thats right and a good fit for the club, I don't think they want to get caught out with agents again after the fine we got for Showman's agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 8 hours ago, Bristol Rob said: It was high in the 80s. George Graham was found guilty (if memory serves). Alan Sugar (when Spurs were trying to sign Teddy Sheringham) said in his biography that 'Clough wanted a bung'. Sugar was on the One Show last night and when asked about the Allardyce affair pretty much said "they're all at it but no one cares" just because everyone is only interested in results. Decent guest as it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 9 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said: the telegraph a picture of LJ, labelled as Barnsley manager, not former… Which means ' all ' their ' facts ' are double checked before publicly ruining a man's career ! Is Wright wrong ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snufflelufagus Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 As I read it Wright told the agent to offer money to the players to ditch their current agents. Now I don't know the full rules on it but is hardly crime of the century!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 I doubt we were ever interested in him, the key part of the article for me is where TW says "I am fed up with driving 600 miles to find bargains" he would have still been doing that here. I think people just assumed that LJ would be going back for him to have "his own man", but he seems to work equally well with JP so no need to change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 7 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Which means ' all ' their ' facts ' are double checked before publicly ruining a man's career ! Is Wright wrong ? And would two wrongs make him right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Did we dodge a bullet here?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumpty Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Wright seems to be a ducking diving sort of 'Northern' geezer. Polar opposite to Johnson/Ashton, which may make him a good fit (in our management team). I can still see him coming here, albeit in a lessor role whilst the dust settles (i.e. Scout initially). Although he's unlikely to be put in charge of transfer negotiations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 26 minutes ago, Scrumpty said: Wright seems to be a ducking diving sort of 'Northern' geezer. Polar opposite to Johnson/Ashton, which may make him a good fit (in our management team). I can still see him coming here, albeit in a lessor role whilst the dust settles (i.e. Scout initially). Although he's unlikely to be put in charge of transfer negotiations. You mean after his spell inside on bribery and corruption charges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: You mean after his spell inside on bribery and corruption charges? I think there in lies an interesting point. Are these people breaking the law, or are they breaking FA rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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