JoeAman08 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Bobby was very good today , it's difficult in a way because I thought pack should of started as well ( can't believe I agree with super on something ) Bobby wasn't overawed though and I personally thought Reid wouldn't cut it at this level but since LJ's come in he's been superb Tbf I thought Pack should've started as well and thought Bobby would get bossed a bit but as you said, under LJ, he's been a revelation. Think LJ said he wanted to attack today and you could see it in the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 1 minute ago, frenchred said: We'll see later on in the season, happy to be proved wrong though We are doomed,didn't take long for them to crawl out the woodwork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted August 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Not yet,wait till we lose against the villa then frenchred will be fuming I'm not fuming mate, I don;t think Newcastle are any great shakes based on previous results and today's performance, yet we were still second best but hey ho 0-1 aint bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 1 minute ago, frenchred said: I'm not fuming mate, I don;t think Newcastle are any great shakes based on previous results and today's performance, yet we were still second best but hey ho 0-1 aint bad! Hate to think what you will be like if we lose to Rotherham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliesboots Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: We are doomed,didn't take long for them to crawl out the woodwork Going apeshit on another thread... Time for bed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, frenchred said: Happy to be in minority of one, better that than a sheep Agree about the sheep thing but disagree about him being out of his depth. It's very refreshing to have a manager who's honest and changes tactics and systems to try and get a result rather than cotterill who would change anything for nobody . LJ is a young manager learning all the time , don't get carried away with one or two results we are miles better than this time last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 16 minutes ago, 29AR said: He's not proven out of his depth either. He came here and did a fantastic job last year - play off form under his stewardship and thus far we've 3 wins 2 defeats in 5, two defeats by an odd goal against sides plying the in the premier league last year, one of them also being cross country away on a Tuesday night. Indeed the man has credit in the bank and suggestions of out of his depth show a total, total lack of appreciation of where we are as a club and what he has done. Your papering over the cracks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 36 minutes ago, frenchred said: Johnson is a little bit out of his depth? Poor starting line up, very poor substitutions, say what you like about Matthews you bought him, you played him and sold our best right back! Thought we gave Newcastle far too much respect, they were not that oood! I haven't even read the rest of this thread, but my thoughts are you are totally incorrect. I've been impressed by LJ's positive attacking substitutions. When we've got a fit Matthews, Smith, o'dowda & Bryan, to add to today's encouraging performance, I think a top half finish is realistic. A couple more quality additions, and who knows..?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatwasclose Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Yes ... You've only got to look at the number of times JP is alongside him standing in the technical area.... Relies on JP a lot by the looks of things. Look around all other clubs you won't see much of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 Just now, Thatwasclose said: Yes ... You've only got to look at the number of times JP is alongside him standing in the technical area.... Relies on JP a lot by the looks of things. Look around all other clubs you won't see much of that. Relies, or works with? The bloke is only in his 4th season of management, and his first one starting the season at this level. His counterpart today has 30 years of experience either as a coach or manager, and is THE ONLY manager in history (according to Wiki) to have won the Champions League, Europa League, UEFA Super Cup and FIFA Club World Cup. It's only natural for there to be a little bit of difference in how they go about their job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brizzlelou Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 44 minutes ago, frenchred said: Johnson is a little bit out of his depth? Poor starting line up, very poor substitutions, say what you like about Matthews you bought him, you played him and sold our best right back! Thought we gave Newcastle far too much respect, they were not that oood! Is somebody going to wake up with a sore head and deep lingering fear with the "what have I done"'s? Switch to shandy's, full pints aren't kind to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lympsham Red Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 1 hour ago, frenchred said: Johnson is a little bit out of his depth? Poor starting line up, very poor substitutions, say what you like about Matthews you bought him, you played him and sold our best right back! Thought we gave Newcastle far too much respect, they were not that oood! Yup, Lee Johnson is so out of his depth that last season he managed to put together a great run and made us finish safe from relegation! Definitely not up to this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 43 minutes ago, Thatwasclose said: Yes ... You've only got to look at the number of times JP is alongside him standing in the technical area.... Relies on JP a lot by the looks of things. Look around all other clubs you won't see much of that. Only Alex Ferguson used to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 We got narrowly beaten by a team that's worth 10x our own. It happens. On to the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 1 hour ago, frenchred said: Johnson is a little bit out of his depth? Poor starting line up, very poor substitutions, say what you like about Matthews you bought him, you played him and sold our best right back! Thought we gave Newcastle far too much respect, they were not that oood! Sold our best right back?! Pahahahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lympsham Red Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 28 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Yes ... You've only got to look at the number of times JP is alongside him standing in the technical area.... Relies on JP a lot by the looks of things. Look around all other clubs you won't see much of that. So you'd prefer it if Lee Johnson completely ignored the fact that he has a number two that is well-experienced and can provide useful insight and team instructions during a game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Lympsham Red said: So you'd prefer it if Lee Johnson completely ignored the fact that he has a number two that is well-experienced and can provide useful insight and team instructions during a game? I never said that,don't know why you have quoted me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, Lympsham Red said: So you'd prefer it if Lee Johnson completely ignored the fact that he has a number two that is well-experienced and can provide useful insight and team instructions during a game? You must of missed my Alex Ferguson underneath it mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lympsham Red Posted August 20, 2016 Report Share Posted August 20, 2016 8 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: I never said that,don't know why you have quoted me 6 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: You must of missed my Alex Ferguson underneath it mate Oops, sorry mate, that's my forum inexperience, meant to quote @Thatwasclose! Sincere apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 Considering Newcastle also now have 6 points by your logic this also makes the Champions League winner Rafa out of his depth also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 22 minutes ago, Lympsham Red said: Oops, sorry mate, that's my forum inexperience, meant to quote @Thatwasclose! Sincere apologies. No worries mucker,wouldn't normally matter but his post made my piss boil as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzol Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 I think we played brilliantly against a quality team and was unlucky to get at least a draw....out of his depth mate, think your having a laugh to be fair. Always looking for the negatives on this site it's a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 7 hours ago, JoeAman08 said: But Bobby was excellent today. That bit worked He was awful first half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 5 hours ago, Brizzol said: I think we played brilliantly against a quality team and was unlucky to get at least a draw....out of his depth mate, think your having a laugh to be fair. Always looking for the negatives on this site it's a joke. Sorry but I'm not sure you can play "brilliantly" and lose 1-0 home without being able point to any particular bad luck or even any clear cut chances that justify the claim. We did OK, but we were ultimately outclassed and Newcastle did a very effective job of managing the game. But it wasn't brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 Amazing, absolutely amazing. We lose 1-0 to a team worth over £45 million, match them toe for toe, even their own manager said we played well and will do well this season, praising Johnson before and after the game. I'm sure you know more than Rafa Benitez though. Matthews, going by Spudski's comments on another thread wasn't bothered about getting fit in pre season and this is what irked Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 8 hours ago, Thatwasclose said: Yes ... You've only got to look at the number of times JP is alongside him standing in the technical area.... Relies on JP a lot by the looks of things. Look around all other clubs you won't see much of that. Good post, a totally un common theme in football is the manager interacting with their coaches. It has never happened before, ever. I mean here's a picture of another manager truly out of his depth getting too much help from his assistant. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 7 hours ago, Lympsham Red said: So you'd prefer it if Lee Johnson completely ignored the fact that he has a number two that is well-experienced and can provide useful insight and team instructions during a game? Lee is pretty quietly spoken even when trying to shout - I think Pemb's is used for the instructions because he has a voice like a fog horn when he yells - so you know players will hear him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 At his height little Lee will get out of his depth much quicker than a taller manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 10 hours ago, Thatwasclose said: Yes ... You've only got to look at the number of times JP is alongside him standing in the technical area.... Relies on JP a lot by the looks of things. Look around all other clubs you won't see much of that. Are you serious? If so, this says that you clearly don't know much about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastend Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 10 hours ago, frenchred said: Whys that then mate, he's not proven at this level and after today he was out of his depth, I hope it s just a bad day at the office, w'ell see Unproven at this level? I think you need to remember he steered us away from relegation last season. The club were in a bit of a mess, and he comes in saves us from going down and puts us 6th in the form table. I don't think he needs to prove himself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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