spudski Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 .... a must listen... so funny :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 I heard this the other day! its very funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rag Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Great listen, thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Clough was an eccentric , footballing genius who sadly just became eccentric after his battle with alcohol . I find the story actually a little sad . I remember seeing his ruddy face on telly after another Forest defeat , the crowd baying for blood . He looked so lost and hurt .The hero fallen , the legend floating away into the ether. He was certainly no saint but he was football's équivalent to Muhammed Ali , a great entertainer . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Here are some of the best BC quotes: http://www.brianclough.com/new_page_2.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 16 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Clough was an eccentric , footballing genius who sadly just became eccentric after his battle with alcohol . I find the story actually a little sad . I remember seeing his ruddy face on telly after another Forest defeat , the crowd baying for blood . He looked so lost and hurt .The hero fallen , the legend floating away into the ether. He was certainly no saint but he was football's équivalent to Muhammed Ali , a great entertainer . Very nicely put Major and exactly my views on Brian Clough. His alcoholic demise was tragic and very very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Yorkshire CideRed Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 My friend's Dad used to supply cars to Forest in the 70s. He always tells the story about the day he was invited to Cloughie's office, was offered a (hard) drink at 10 in the morning, then witnessed a player on the receiving end of an infamous Cloughie "dressing down" involving the words "what would your mother say...". :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Watched 'I believe in miracles' the other day and it was a decent movie. Imagine a mid table Championship side getting promoted and winning the league straight away and Champions league twice on the bounce nowadays. It could never happen again. The guy was an absolute genius, as long as Peter Taylor was alongside him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Personal favourite goes like this....Cloughie arrives home late one cold winters night after watching a game; he jumps into bed alongside Barbara. Barbara: 'God, your cold' Cloughie: 'I've told you before Barbara, when we are at home you can call me Brian' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 47 minutes ago, Robbored said: Very nicely put Major and exactly my views on Brian Clough. His alcoholic demise was tragic and very very sad. I think while Saunders tells it wonderfully it is tinged with sadness that clearly by then (I think 1991/1992 time?) he was clearly battling hard with alcholism. Fair to say there is, and only ever will be, one Brian Clough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 34 minutes ago, 8menhadadream said: Watched 'I believe in miracles' the other day and it was a decent movie. Imagine a mid table Championship side getting promoted and winning the league straight away and Champions league twice on the bounce nowadays. It could never happen again. The guy was an absolute genius, as long as Peter Taylor was alongside him! I think what Leicester achived last season is as close as we'll ever get and in 20-30 years time maybe looked upon in similar light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 6 minutes ago, Tomarse said: I think what Leicester achived last season is as close as we'll ever get and in 20-30 years time maybe looked upon in similar light. I agree with the first bit that Leicesters' achievement is as close as we'll get but I can't see how it could be compared to what Forest did. If Leicester win the CL it would be. That's not to undermine Leicesters' achievement by the way, it's absolutely sensational in it's own right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 17 hours ago, Major Isewater said: Clough was an eccentric , footballing genius who sadly just became eccentric after his battle with alcohol . I find the story actually a little sad . I remember seeing his ruddy face on telly after another Forest defeat , the crowd baying for blood . He looked so lost and hurt .The hero fallen , the legend floating away into the ether. He was certainly no saint but he was football's équivalent to Muhammed Ali , a great entertainer . Not only a little sad, but virtually entirely made up for Saunders to make money on the after dinner circuit https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/sep/07/brian-clough-dean-saunders-nottingham-forest I bet Clough's family don't find it very funny either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 17 hours ago, 8menhadadream said: Watched 'I believe in miracles' the other day and it was a decent movie. Imagine a mid table Championship side getting promoted and winning the league straight away and Champions league twice on the bounce nowadays. It could never happen again. The guy was an absolute genius, as long as Peter Taylor was alongside him! I thought that was our plan with LJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RooknRobin Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Stortz said: Not only a little sad, but virtually entirely made up for Saunders to make money on the after dinner circuit https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/sep/07/brian-clough-dean-saunders-nottingham-forest I bet Clough's family don't find it very funny either. The journalist Daniel Taylor "begins to think Saunders is a bit of a pillock" I think there are many in the game that share his opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 6 minutes ago, kent red said: The journalist Daniel Taylor "begins to think Saunders is a bit of a pillock" I think there are many in the game that share his opinion! It's the word ' begins ' that is wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Dean Saunders - terrible manager, brilliant after dinner speaker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: Dean Saunders - terrible manager, brilliant after dinner speaker! Not if he lies about a legend of the game and makes him out to be some sort of drunken freak . I would n't have him as my after dinner speaker for free , unless he wanted to talk about and compare his managerial record with that of Mr Clough . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcityman Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Brian Clough was a footballing genius. Dean Saunders is a washed up ex pro who failed at management and now makes an income by spouting bullshit. lets be honest Saunders wouldn't be fit to lace Brian Cloughs boots even when the man was at his lowest ebb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Brian Clough was simply the greatest manager this country's ever seen, what he achieved with 2 run of the mill provincial teams is staggering, the greatest disgrace in English football was that he was denied the chance to lead his Country by the big-wigs at the F.A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Although Leicester's achievement is amazing, they did still spend considerably under foreign owners in order to achieve it. Forest had won the league and were well on the way to their first European triumph before Clough spent much money at all. No one will ever come remotely close to achieving this again, a better comparitor than Leicester would be if LJ won the Champions League with us in 2018-19.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 1 minute ago, GrahamC said: Although Leicester's achievement is amazing, they did still spend considerably under foreign owners in order to achieve it. Forest had won the league and were well on the way to their first European triumph before Clough spent much money at all. No one will ever come remotely close to achieving this again, a better comparitor than Leicester would be when LJ wins the Champions League with us in 2018-19.. Fixed that for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 That link is pretty damning Have to say, I listened to it but didn't find it funny at all. I've never liked Dean Saunders, this was a reminder of why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 3 hours ago, Major Isewater said: Not if he lies about a legend of the game and makes him out to be some sort of drunken freak . I would n't have him as my after dinner speaker for free , unless he wanted to talk about and compare his managerial record with that of Mr Clough . My mistake - I hadn't read the whole thread and I wish I had now. Was just responding to the original post. If he has lied then I completely agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 seems a bit odd that Saunders would go on a National Radio station and say what he has, knowing people are alive that were there, that can confirm whether its true or not...especially as after dinner speaking is part of his living. Who's book him now if true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 No idea if Saunders story is true or Guardian article is true. Nor does anyone else on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, RedDave said: No idea if Saunders story is true or Guardian article is true. Nor does anyone else on this thread. Apart from Hill , whose house this alledgedly took place in , and who denies the story and the fact that Gemmill was n't responsible for the finances of transfers . We don't know , as in we were n't there but there are things that don't add up in Saunder's story . Clough was dead drunk but firstly drove to Hill's house and then even though he was on his knees had the piece of mind to get to Saunder's house before DS ! Nice going for a drunk . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 10 minutes ago, RedDave said: No idea if Saunders story is true or Guardian article is true. Nor does anyone else on this thread. Agreed. Let's just not discuss it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Dean Saunders is a burk. That stupid story about his parking at the airport during the euros is probably bullshit as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 He's not an intelligent man, at all. I can well imagine that he thought no one would try and disprove the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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