BRISTOL86 Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Hopefully if this is true he can be our Cunningham! But hopefully with a bit more class when he goes back to Deepdale.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 21 minutes ago, pnefcok said: I don't want to get into an argument about PNE vs Bristol City. As I've said before I like Bristol City and the fans, and I enjoy interacting with you all on here. I think it's strange because you're 3 points off the relegation zone and are showing no sign of getting out of your bad run and your manager has never achieved anything in football management. I think he'd have been better holding off until the summer. Bristol City do have more potential than PNE no doubt about that but are you showing any sign of fulfilling that at this stage? Please you don't have to be so polite to 'tinman 85' every village needs there idiot if you know what I mean!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, pnefcok said: Feel free to copy and paste this in the main football chat section if a thread about Wright emerges. Will try to give my view on him as a player and his dramatic type at the club. Wright has been with us since he was a teenager. He came over to the UK and failed in a trial at Blackburn Rovers, and we had a look and took a punt on him. He then progressed through our youth team and gained a pro contract, and was given his full debut under Darren Ferguson (yikes). Despite what was becoming an extremely turbulent time for the club, with relegation, shit manager after shit manager, a takeover from Mr Hemmings after a winding up order, Wright continued to progress and showed signs that he could become a very good CB. Then came Graham Westley......................Wright did okay when GW first came in. However, rumour has it that he was deemed too small but GW and he wanted rid as part of the huge clearout in the summer of 2012. Our owner had a tip off from a contact that Wright could be worth a few £ in future, and fought Westley in order to keep him at the club. He was set to join Accy Stanley until this personal intervention from Hemmings. He was one of our only good performers as the GW era came to a nasty end, and then when Simon Grayson came in, he became a main stay in the team. He became a top CB at L1 level and progressed hugely under Grayson. After the first full season under SG he went to the 2014 World Cup with the Aussies, didn't play but must have been a great experience. After promotion he signed a 2 year deal and stepped up to the Championship with relative ease compared to some of our other defenders. However with his contract due to expire in the summer, it has now become a bit of a saga and it seems that the club fancy cashing in. To be honest it's a shame that it's all ending like this and it seems a lot of games have been played between him, his agent and the club. He has the same agent as Garner, who was touting Garner around all summer looking for a move before Rangers came in. From listening to some interviews recently I don't think Simon is very happy with how it's all been handled. As for his attributes, he's not the tallest centre back but he's strong, good in the air and reads the game well. He often steps out to break up play very well. His distribution is okay but his left foot is shocking and it was a constant irritation of supporters that he was played as the left sided CB when he just can't use it other than to launch it into the stands. Some areas of his game still need work. At set pieces he often wrestles defenders quite riskily, and he sometimes gives very silly free kicks away around the box. He is a decent young defender at this level, with lots of room still for improvement. Not sure if he'll ever be Prem standard but he could become a very good Championship centre back. As I've said, can't be arsed with a debate about the pros and cons of PNE, Bristol City etc. I do find it an odd move at this particular moment in time but good luck to him if that's what he thinks is best (apart from against us!). Hope this is helpful/informative. Well it is an odd move if a Chinese club were going to offer 30-40k a week, maybe its not the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnefcok Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, Emperor Palpatine said: Well it is an odd move if a Chinese club were going to offer 30-40k a week, maybe its not the money There have been a lot of rumours about China, seemingly none have any substance. Probably his agent putting it out there to raise his demands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 31 minutes ago, pnefcok said: I don't want to get into an argument about PNE vs Bristol City. As I've said before I like Bristol City and the fans, and I enjoy interacting with you all on here. I think it's strange because you're 3 points off the relegation zone and are showing no sign of getting out of your bad run and your manager has never achieved anything in football management. I think he'd have been better holding off until the summer. Bristol City do have more potential than PNE no doubt about that but are you showing any sign of fulfilling that at this stage? Perhaps when playing against us, he's seen our strengths and also our weaknesses. Perhaps he's seen that he could be the cog that makes this team click again. Perhaps like a lot of players and managers, he realises that we aren't far off being a decent side with a lot of potential. If we were such a bad side and we had an awful manager...the coaching staff at Chelsea wouldn't let one of their brightest prospects develop for a season under us. I spoke to a friend of Jaap Stam's yesterday, and he said that Stam had mentioned that we were one of the hardest teams to try and break down this season, and it was just inexperience that let them in. He was impressed by us...as are other managers and players. It's only fans that see a winless streak and block out all the good points at a Club. It's funny how we seem to be attracting more players this season, more so than when we went up from League 1. Maybe the Pro's can see the difference in what we are trying to achieve and know the realities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Island Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 21 minutes ago, pnefcok said: His distribution is okay but his left foot is shocking and it was a constant irritation of supporters that he was played as the left sided CB when he just can't use it other than to launch it into the stands. Flint replacement after the AF, LT, GON bust ups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, Ser Davos Ciderworth said: Flint replacement after the AF, LT, GON bust ups? Has AF had a bust up with LJ? That one must've passed me by Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, Ser Davos Ciderworth said: Flint replacement after the AF, LT, GON bust ups? Could be. It also makes a bit more sense letting Taylor Moore go out on loan too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnefcok Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 19 minutes ago, spudski said: Perhaps when playing against us, he's seen our strengths and also our weaknesses. Perhaps he's seen that he could be the cog that makes this team click again. Perhaps like a lot of players and managers, he realises that we aren't far off being a decent side with a lot of potential. If we were such a bad side and we had an awful manager...the coaching staff at Chelsea wouldn't let one of their brightest prospects develop for a season under us. I spoke to a friend of Jaap Stam's yesterday, and he said that Stam had mentioned that we were one of the hardest teams to try and break down this season, and it was just inexperience that let them in. He was impressed by us...as are other managers and players. It's only fans that see a winless streak and block out all the good points at a Club. It's funny how we seem to be attracting more players this season, more so than when we went up from League 1. Maybe the Pro's can see the difference in what we are trying to achieve and know the realities. I'm not sure I did "block out all the good points at a club". As for your other points - If I was a player I'd be looking at the track record of managers, i.e. promotions. Not whether they've signed a kid from a big club on loan, although that might be LJ's biggest claim to fame thus far? He's not done much else other than spend 15 mil + and be 3 points off the drop. Chelsea farm out 40+ players per season on loan, I don't see how having one makes you stand out. You've attracted more players that's for sure, how many of them actually play/improve the first team from last season? Anyway my opinion isn't valid as I'm not a pro as you suggest in your last sentence so I won't comment further on this particular PNE Bristol City attractiveness subject. As I said earlier in the thread I've no interest in debating the two clubs a lot I just wanted to tell you about the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 11 minutes ago, Ser Davos Ciderworth said: Flint replacement after the AF, LT, GON bust ups? There's been no suggestion of a bust up with Flint and he's just signed a new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Maybe he just wants to be closer to Josh?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Island Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: There's been no suggestion of a bust up with Flint and he's just signed a new contract. All three of them have recently signed contracts with the club. Doesn't preclude a bust up with LJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, pnefcok said: I'm not sure I did "block out all the good points at a club". As for your other points - If I was a player I'd be looking at the track record of managers, i.e. promotions. No whether they've signed a kid from a big club on loan, although that might be LJ's biggest claim to fame thus far? He's not done much else other than spend 15 mil + and be 3 points off the drop. Chelsea farm out 40+ players per season on loan, I don't see how having one makes you stand out. You've attracted more players that's for sure, how many of them actually play/improve the first team from last season? Anyway my opinion isn't valid as I'm not a pro as you suggest in your last sentence so I won't comment further on this particular PNE Bristol City attractiveness subject. Well Reading aren't doing too bad with a guy who's never managed before in this league and who was only assistant manager before. It's swings and roundabouts...they look at everything...not just the manager. Especially the coaching staff, who they have to work with everyday. Don't shy away from posting...I enjoy your contributions, it's nice to hear from other fans on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, Ser Davos Ciderworth said: All three of them have recently signed contracts with the club. Doesn't preclude a bust up with LJ. But like i said there's been no suggestion of a bust up with Flint. Bit of shit stirring going on somewhere by the look of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Hope we sign him, watched him play for Bosnia at The Euros. Good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agard Days Night Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: But like i said there's been no suggestion of a bust up with Flint. Got to say I've heard differently. Confident it's accurate as well. Wouldn't rule out AF being gone from BS3 sharpish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Agard Days Night said: Got to say I've heard differently. Confident it's accurate as well. Wouldn't rule out AF being gone from BS3 sharpish. How reliable is it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Island Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: But like i said there's been no suggestion of a bust up with Flint. Bit of shit stirring going on somewhere by the look of it. How do you know there has been no suggestion of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM88 Posted January 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 16 minutes ago, pnefcok said: I'm not sure I did "block out all the good points at a club". As for your other points - If I was a player I'd be looking at the track record of managers, i.e. promotions. Not whether they've signed a kid from a big club on loan, although that might be LJ's biggest claim to fame thus far? He's not done much else other than spend 15 mil + and be 3 points off the drop. Chelsea farm out 40+ players per season on loan, I don't see how having one makes you stand out. You've attracted more players that's for sure, how many of them actually play/improve the first team from last season? Anyway my opinion isn't valid as I'm not a pro as you suggest in your last sentence so I won't comment further on this particular PNE Bristol City attractiveness subject. As I said earlier in the thread I've no interest in debating the two clubs a lot I just wanted to tell you about the player. Perhaps it's the fact that Conte rates Tammy extremely highly, and was even considering him as part of the first team in their pre season tour. And also the fact that it took a hell of a lot of work to get Tammy on loan, presentations and all sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM88 Posted January 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, Agard Days Night said: Got to say I've heard differently. Confident it's accurate as well. Wouldn't rule out AF being gone from BS3 sharpish. He signed a new contract weeks ago, shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Island Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: How reliable is it though Why don't you tell us seeing as you know everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agard Days Night Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: How reliable is it though I have absolutely no reason to doubt it and no reason to make it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ser Davos Ciderworth said: How do you know there has been no suggestion of this? It's the first iv'e heard of it ,no rumours down the ground yesterday and with stuff like that it spreads like wildfire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agard Days Night Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, JasonM88 said: He signed a new contract weeks ago, shut up. Come on Jason, no need for that. Ever heard of the phrase 'don't shoot the messenger'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ser Davos Ciderworth said: Why don't you tell us seeing as you know everything? Whats your problem then . If i knew everything i wouldn't of asked would i so shut the **** up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAGa Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Just like Flint was supposedly very unhappy after LJ took over last season, only for him to sign a new contract and never suggest any reason for this to be the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Island Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, JasonM88 said: He signed a new contract weeks ago, shut up. Since when we've lost several matches and shipped many soft goals leading to tension. You do the math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Island Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Whats your problem then . If i knew everything i wouldn't of asked would i so shut the **** up. Eggy Mandela. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 30 minutes ago, Emperor Palpatine said: Has AF had a bust up with LJ? That one must've passed me by Someone misunderstood when it was said that LJ and AF couldn't see eye to eye... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 14 minutes ago, bearded_red said: Hope we signhim, watched him play for Bosnia at The Euros. Good player. If you're referring to the 2016 Euro Finals, Bosnia didn't qualify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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