GodEmperor Palpatine Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, Alan Dicks said: Tosser Oooooh sticks and stones brah! What a devastating comeback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, Alan Dicks said: Who assembled those players? Abraham - Johnson, scored two goals, without him we'd be seriously worse off. O'Dowda - Johnson, young and first season in the Championship. Matthews - Johnson, better than our other options. Brownhill - Another young player. So four of our starting line up, all of whom have little to no experience in the Championship but includes our most prolific player. I'm not saying Johnson has any get out of free jail card because of this but it's the players from Cotterills rule that should be shining now as they've had time and experience of the league. It's too easy to say "who chose those players" but a single season in charge, it's not a squad he's built, it's a squad he's patched over. The biggest annoyance is that whilst we did good business with Kodjia out for a large sum and a just as, if not more prolific striker in for nothing for the season it's that we've not strengthened the defence! Our defence as a whole just aren't working well and the midfield isn't defending them either. I think Lee could put 12 players out and we'd still leak goals, it's not his fault when he sets out a game plan and the players can't follow it. That said I'm guessing LJ isn't able to get the players to do this and that can be just as much an issue as the players being incapable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, Alan Dicks said: No probs, any time you fancy a meet up without your keyboard i,ll be there pleb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, Alan Dicks said: Disagree, we had some lucky points back then and a few ugly wins. I personally saw weaknesses all over the park even then, it was only going to be a matter of time before teams worked out how to defeat us my friend. I think LJ has to change some of his seriously frustrating tactics but he's not the main source of the problem IMO, I think he needs to find a team to suit Tomlin and stop bringing on Wilbraham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dicks Posted January 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, Spoons said: Ok Alan DICK Cleverness passonified Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, Spike said: Abraham - Johnson, scored two goals, without him we'd be seriously worse off. O'Dowda - Johnson, young and first season in the Championship. Matthews - Johnson, better than our other options. Brownhill - Another young player. So four of our starting line up, all of whom have little to no experience in the Championship but includes our most prolific player. I'm not saying Johnson has any get out of free jail card because of this but it's the players from Cotterills rule that should be shining now as they've had time and experience of the league. It's too easy to say "who chose those players" but a single season in charge, it's not a squad he's built, it's a squad he's patched over. The biggest annoyance is that whilst we did good business with Kodjia out for a large sum and a just as, if not more prolific striker in for nothing for the season it's that we've not strengthened the defence! Our defence as a whole just aren't working well and the midfield isn't defending them either. I think Lee could put 12 players out and we'd still leak goals, it's not his fault when he sets out a game plan and the players can't follow it. That said I'm guessing LJ isn't able to get the players to do this and that can be just as much an issue as the players being incapable. Johnson does have a get out of jail free card; he's called SL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boss hogg Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, Claude said: I'm still here backing LJ and was also at the game today. out of interest what has lj done so far to get your backing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 23 minutes ago, Shtanley said: Players are spineless, LJ had tactics bang on first 60. He needs to change things of course but I think players are fully to blame for today. I would say I'm pretty supportive of LJ, not because of him specifically but I don't see how getting on any managers back helps anything. But I would say LJ created that collapse when he didn't swap like for like when O'Dowda came off. We were protecting our fullbacks really well (for once!) until he out Reid out on the right and then moved Bryan out to the wing. Suddenly they were pulling us all over the place down the flanks and our cms looked lost and stopped tracking runners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, boss hogg said: out of interest what has lj done so far to get your backing Kept us up perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, Shtanley said: I think LJ has to change some of his seriously frustrating tactics but he's not the main source of the problem IMO, Seriously ? I think he needs to find a team to suit Tomlin Really ? build a side for Tomlin ? and stop bringing on Wilbraham. Blimey I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boss hogg Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, Emperor Palpatine said: Kept us up perhaps ffs that was last season, its all about now and we are shocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robson Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 21 minutes ago, boss hogg said: out of interest what has lj done so far to get your backing First full season in the championship. Had one full transfer window. losing by the one goal in most games. creating chances. Believe me I'm losing patience but will give him till the end of February until I'm calling for him to get sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Johnson does have a get out of jail free card; he's called SL haha touché. You know what I mean though, he's made mistakes but he seems in a good frame of mind considering the run of form, he seems focused and isn't afraid to try new things, even if they are somewhat a let down. The players however, mainly defence and those with major defensive duties have a lot to answer for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, boss hogg said: ffs that was last season, its all about now and we are shocking I see... but your question was asking what LJ has done not what LJ has done this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Blimey Personally I'd tell him to roll with a 41212 diamond. FF or IL AM AF HM SG MP KS JB LT TA and another I thought he nailed the tactics first half, but awful defending for all of their goals, these aren't things he's told them to do it's just Flint and Matthews seriously switching off. It was so easy for him to pull off and finish, schoolboy striking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boss hogg Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, Emperor Palpatine said: I see... but your question was asking what LJ has done not what LJ has done this season? got to put you on ignore you have no idea about football clearly, your the biggest happy clapper on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, Claude said: First full season in the championship. Had one full transfer window. losing by the one goal in most games. creating chances. Believe me I'm losing patience but will give him till the end of February until I'm calling for him to get sacked. Do you go to games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolborn_and_red Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 23 minutes ago, Shtanley said: Players are spineless, LJ had tactics bang on first 60. He needs to change things of course but I think players are fully to blame for today. How can you say that. He had us set up 4-1-4-1 at home FFS. Our best player on the bench. A right back playing centre half whilst our highly rated young centre half commentating on the radio as he couldn't even make the bench. O' Dowda gets injured. Who do you bring on. Paterson or Reid. You have to scream Paterson all day just to keep the shape of the side. But no, It was Reid. I despair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 17 minutes ago, boss hogg said: got to put you on ignore you have no idea about football clearly, your the biggest happy clapper on this board. Bless, don't get your panties in a twist. Consider me ignored then... You can't even answer simple questions, I'd feel that i'd lose IQ points debating with you anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 I think it's really important to not attend matches in order to to ensure such a clear perspective. Well done OP- I'm sure you were with the other 18000of us in spirit. #nob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robson Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 45 minutes ago, Griffin said: Do you go to games? I do yes. Season ticket holder in the Atyeo, I was at Ipswich and today. Do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkInChance Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Anybody who thinks that sitting off of Reading at home (not Barca) like we had to, somehow managed to fluke a two goal lead but even then couldn't hang on to it is acceptable has lost the plot like LJ. I've been watching City 40 odd years and to have to set up like that against Reading takes the biscuit. What is wrong with this club? Proper basket case and riddled with poor decision makers from board right to player level - what a joke. Don't settle for survival or mediocrity ffs - there is no reason we shouldn't be challenging in this league if we have decent management..... I was worried about LJ being appointed having not actually having done anything in Management but wanted to give him a chance - he's failing and either needs to go or get some help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Wolfgang said: Blinkered or just plain stupid, who are these pro LJ people? Look at the results - they speak for themselves, the manager has to carry the can. Do the decent thing Johnson and walk...... No managers walk...he has just signed a 5 year contract would you walk away with nothing when your sitting on that severance pay out...no you wouldn't so why are you accusing him of not doing the decent thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, Claude said: I do yes. Season ticket holder in the Atyeo, I was at Ipswich and today. Do you? I do, Atyeo too. I don't understand your faith? Average L1 record, taken us from a winning streak when he joined to an absolute shambles now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robson Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 21 minutes ago, Griffin said: I do, Atyeo too. I don't understand your faith? Average L1 record, taken us from a winning streak when he joined to an absolute shambles now. We were fantastic at the start of the season and now we're poor. Think we are somewhere inbetween looking at the bigger picture. Finding our feet in this league, setting the boundaries to progress in future years. If we lose against Forest and Cardiff then I may review but for now I'm backing LJ, the board and the players that this rot can get turned around. Ask me the question again in February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Bicester Red said: NO WE WERE 2 - 0 UP! Lost by 3! Reading scored 5 then did they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, Claude said: We were fantastic at the start of the season and now we're poor. Think we are somewhere inbetween looking at the bigger picture. Finding our feet in this league, setting the boundaries to progress in future years. If we lose against Forest and Cardiff then I may review but for now I'm backing LJ, the board and the players that this rot can get turned around. Ask me the question again in February. We were less fantastic than we were at the end of last, after spending 11m. He's never proven himself so I don't understand how, after this run, you can be faithful. Each to their own, and I hope I don't have to ask you again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 57 minutes ago, Shtanley said: Same players that were flying in 6th after 15 games. They've stopped performing. He needs to change things but as of recently they haven't been good enough. Neither has the Manager! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 24 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: I think it's really important to not attend matches in order to to ensure such a clear perspective. Well done OP- I'm sure you were with the other 18000of us in spirit. #nob In the interest of balance I wasn't there (did think about going, but sacrificing sleep between 2 night shifts wasn't going to make tonight any better than it will be) and I will back LJ further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 @Alan Dicks Imagine if you had as much time and support as LJ at the start of the 80-81 season?! Instead we replaced you with someone with experience of....Oh, hang on no we didn't we did the usual bird brain approach and got in the Manager of Malmo whose departing words remain with me until this day....."There is nothing more I can do!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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