The Official Nottingham Forest v Bristol City Match Day Thread

[Dan Robin]

Today I expected at least a point: losing these sort of games is not acceptable, for a team that wants to keep its place in the Championship.

Probably Johnson is making a lot of mistakes, and probably some players have lost confidence in him....so at this point, I think he should be sacked.

That being said...I'm starting to believe that our team's problems are worse than we think: maybe too many players are not good enough to keep City in this league. Even without a manager on the bench, we should be able to gain points against sides like Cardiff,Ipswich,Forest, etc.

 

Edited January 21, 2017 by Dan Robin

[BobBobSuperBob]

Just now, cityloyal473 said:

And the Wolves bench.  But it didnt happen.  No siree.  Johnson said so.  He's full of BS.

Unless there was two occasions , which is highly likely , I'm on about Huddersfield !!!

LJ is clueless

and

LT is a big mouth who was never a good fit at this club

 

Get rid of both ASAP

 

[Mike Hunt-Hertz]

2 minutes ago, willitonciderhead said:

I'm just not quite there yet to feel totally happy with LJ going, for me one more home match and that is it for me. I can then sleep at night knowing that he has been given the best chance to turn it around?

 

We are running out of matches. This is urgent.

[Northern Red]

1 minute ago, Red-Robbo said:

I have moved into that camp.

Today was his last chance.

The worst run of form for 120 years is more than any manager should hope to survive.

And I just can't see a win coming under him.

Yep, same here. I don't hate the bloke or anything like that and certainly can't be doing with the almost gleeful self righteous smugness that a few on here are demonstrating, but this is unacceptable and can't be allowed to continue. 

[Lanterne Rouge]

Reluctantly today I have moved from in to out.

 

It just can`t be allowed to continue like this. I wanted him to succeed, I really did but it clearly isn`t working.

Kenny Jackett for me - might not be pretty to watch but it will get us what we want.

[KeepUpLino]

1 minute ago, MattRSp95 said:

What has changed from the start of the season? 

Ummmm... ?!? Are you sure!!!

[ontariored]

How did Fabian Giefer perform seeing as he was thrown it aty the deep end for his first game? 

[cityloyal473]

Just now, BobBobSuperBob said:

Unless there was two occasions , which is highly likely , I'm on about Huddersfield !!!

LJ is clueless

and

LT is a big mouth who was never a good fit at this club

 

Get rid of both ASAP

 

Thought it was Wolves.

[EstoniaTallinnRed]

Just now, MattRSp95 said:

What has changed from the start of the season? 

The players don't want to play for him, I have said this for weeks now. They want him out and the only way they know how to do this is to lose.  I don't agree that players should do this, but I am sure this is what is happening.

[Mike Hunt-Hertz]

5 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

I have moved into that camp.

Today was his last chance.

The worst run of form for 120 years is more than any manager should hope to survive.

And I just can't see a win coming under him.

Dead manager walking.

[willitonciderhead]

2 minutes ago, 'keepuplino' said:

Why don't we just keep giving him 1 more game ffs... can't you see he's clueless, we  look clueless... how has he turned a very talented side into this blithering mess???

Yep, I understand where you are coming from. With the new signings I was hoping it would give a lift to the team???? I think what I am saying is I would just love things to work out for LJ, not just for him but for the club, supporters and long term stability.

Just gutted really.

 

[willitonciderhead]

5 minutes ago, pillred said:

nice play on words there come up short I like it

I wondered who would pick up my little quip, :laugh:.

[BobBobSuperBob]

Just now, cityloyal473 said:

Thought it was Wolves.

I remember people quoting Lambert being astonished by something said at Wolves but LTs behaviour at Huddersfield would see him sacked in any other job

[Red-Robbo]

Just now, Northern Red said:

Yep, same here. I don't hate the bloke or anything like that and certainly can't be doing with the almost gleeful self righteous smugness that a few on here are demonstrating, but this is unacceptable and can't be allowed to continue. 

That's exactly my feelings,  NE.

We have to conclude that very sadly, Lee cannot get the best from his players. When things started going wrong,  he panicked and I think that's rubbed off on the team.

What we need now is a "Mr Motivator".

[samo II]

3 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

I have moved into that camp.

Today was his last chance.

The worst run of form for 120 years is more than any manager should hope to survive.

And I just can't see a win coming under him.

Agreed.

The situation we are now in, we now MUST beat Rotherham on Feb 4th, and see that kick start a run which will have to involve winning nearly half our games to stay up.

And right now; I honestly don't think we will get anything from any game, and that is due to LJ.

Get someone in now, then they have two games to run the rule over the (decent looking) squad, before that crunch game and beyond.

I wish it had worked out, but it hasn't; Johnson out.

[Tears in rain]

Just now, 'keepuplino' said:

Ummmm... ?!? Are you sure!!!

I'm curious as I haven't been in a while.. I'm a student and I came a lot in the early season last game I watched was end of November. (Slate me all you want) 

I can't work out what's gone wrong from then till now 

[exAtyeoMax]

3 minutes ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said:

The players don't want to play for him, I have said this for weeks now. They want him out and the only way they know how to do this is to lose.  I don't agree that players should do this, but I am sure this is what is happening.

I don't believe that is the case, at all!

[The Dolman Pragmatist]

1 minute ago, Red-Robbo said:

That's exactly my feelings,  NE.

We have to conclude that very sadly, Lee cannot get the best from his players. When things started going wrong,  he panicked and I think that's rubbed off on the team.

What we need now is a "Mr Motivator".

Sadly, and I mean sadly, for the first time I think I've drifted into this camp.  Last thing I wanted, but I fear the end is nigh.

[Tears in rain]

4 minutes ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said:

The players don't want to play for him, I have said this for weeks now. They want him out and the only way they know how to do this is to lose.  I don't agree that players should do this, but I am sure this is what is happening.

Seems plausible! Difficult for me to judge as I can't see reactions and body language of players without going to games 

[samo II]

6 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Yep, same here. I don't hate the bloke or anything like that and certainly can't be doing with the almost gleeful self righteous smugness that a few on here are demonstrating, but this is unacceptable and can't be allowed to continue. 

Spot on.

Can't be doing with the silly and petty insults, but that doesn't mean I can't see that we need someone else in as head coach.

[Fiale]

6 minutes ago, ontariored said:

How did Fabian Giefer perform seeing as he was thrown it aty the deep end for his first game? 

 

did you not see the free kick going in ? He was not in position as he was checking his boots....

[Gert Mare]

4 minutes ago, MattRSp95 said:

I'm curious as I haven't been in a while.. I'm a student and I came a lot in the early season last game I watched was end of November. (Slate me all you want) 

I can't work out what's gone wrong from then till now 

How about bizarre coaching methods and PowerPoint presentations to footballers?

[Red-Robbo]

1 minute ago, Fiale said:

 

did you not see the free kick going in ? He was not in position as he was checking his boots....

I know he's tall,  but I don't think he'd have saved that shot anyway. That said, you should be at least ready.

[Tears in rain]

2 minutes ago, Cheesleysmate said:

How about bizarre coaching methods and PowerPoint presentations to footballers?

Again im unaware of this but seems to be a way to lose the dressing room or something like that 

[EstoniaTallinnRed]

2 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

I don't believe that is the case, at all!

So what is your opinion then?   Why is it that a team that was performing well, not brilliantly I must admit,  but steady and in a good position in the League,  suddenly start to lose and continue to lose.  They seem to have no passion or confidence and all that is down to the management.  Players don't just start to play badly overnight or all of them lose form at the same time.  You tell me what other reason there is?

[Northern Red]

6 minutes ago, samo II said:

Spot on.

Can't be doing with the silly and petty insults, but that doesn't mean I can't see that we need someone else in as head coach.

Aye. It's time for a change, but let's have a bit of class.

[LondonBristolian]

11 minutes ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said:

The players don't want to play for him, I have said this for weeks now. They want him out and the only way they know how to do this is to lose.  I don't agree that players should do this, but I am sure this is what is happening.

I don't think that is the case at all. The quality wasn't there today and nor was the strategy but the players could not have tried harder in the last ten minutes.

I'd question whether the belief is there but the desire certainly is.

[Mike Hunt-Hertz]

23 minutes ago, Full nelson said:

Tool

Tools are useful. This troll is a ****.

[EstoniaTallinnRed]

2 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

I don't think that is the case at all. The quality wasn't there today and nor was the strategy but the players could not have tried harder in the last ten minutes.

I'd question whether the belief is there but the desire certainly is.

Belief is what it's all about and they don't believe in LJ!

[exAtyeoMax]

Just now, EstoniaTallinnRed said:

So what is your opinion then?   Why is it that a team that was performing well, not brilliantly I must admit,  but steady and in a good position in the League,  suddenly start to lose and continue to lose.  They seem to have no passion or confidence and all that is down to the management.  Players don't just start to play badly overnight or all of them lose form at the same time.  You tell me what other reason there is?

The look of despair on the players' faces after the Cardiff game didn't reveal a lack of effort, Flinty had his head in his hands.

 I think the lack of form is basically down to the tactics, constant changes, possible fallouts and a lack of confidence, which is obviously getting worse as the bad run continues. They certainly aren't losing on purpose.