handsofclay Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Matty Taylor scored one and had two assists in his full debut yesterday. I cannot think of any previous striker who has made such an encouraging full debut for our club since Joe Royle. It has to be born in mind it was away from home too on the ground of a team pushing hard for the promotion play-offs. Furthermore, I like his attitude. Apparently, he said that because he had missed a sitter, he deserved to also miss the coach home and did so. Although the fact Tammy Abraham was driving it might've played a part in his decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Didn't John Galley score a hatrick on his debut in a 0-3 away win at Huddersfield? That kinda trumps Taylor's full debut yesterday, but I admire your enthusiasm and MT is obviously looking a tidy addition for peanuts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Joe Royale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Didn't John Galley score a hatrick on his debut in a 0-3 away win at Huddersfield? That kinda trumps Taylor's full debut yesterday, but I admire your enthusiasm and MT is obviously looking a tidy addition for peanuts... He scored a hat trick but without googling i thought it was Rotherham ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 minute ago, BobbyC said: He scored a hat trick but without googling i thought it was Rotherham ? We signed him from Rotherham, I was pretty sure the hatrick was vs Huddersfield, might have to do some quick research now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Didn't John Galley score a hatrick on his debut in a 0-3 away win at Huddersfield? That kinda trumps Taylor's full debut yesterday, but I admire your enthusiasm and MT is obviously looking a tidy addition for peanuts... Don't think that can be beaten for an away performance on full debut, but I did say since Joe Royle scored four V Middlesbrough in November, 1977 and Galley was before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Is it still a full debut if they only play 75 minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ackbird Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 10 minutes ago, 054123 said: Joe Royale? With cheese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Is it still a full debut if they only play 75 minutes? I would class it as a full debut when they are picked in the starting line up, even if they are hauled off just a minute later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, BobbyC said: He scored a hat trick but without googling i thought it was Rotherham ? Huddersfield's local paper think his debut hatrick was against them... http://www.examiner.co.uk/sport/football/news/nightmare-ray-galley-fires-hat-5045358 ..but then they also say in the article that Bert Tann was our manager!! Interestlngly though, Galley also scored a hatrick on his debut for Rotherham...top player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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glynriley Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, B1ackbird said: With cheese? Cheese was injured... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 15 January 1938 City fielded a youngster, Alfie Rowles. He scored three at AG that day as City beat Exeter 4-0. Alfie went on to score twelve goals in his first six League games. Nearly eighty years on that record still stands. If City are playing on Monday 15 Jan 2018, perhaps a minute's applause on the 80th minute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 13 minutes ago, Olé said: Gregg Goodridge had the best debut I've ever seen. I really thought we'd just signed the best player in the world...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, 22A said: 15 January 1938 City fielded a youngster, Alfie Rowles. He scored three at AG that day as City beat Exeter 4-0. Alfie went on to score twelve goals in his first six League games. Nearly eighty years on that record still stands. If City are playing on Monday 15 Jan 2018, perhaps a minute's applause on the 80th minute? One of those players who might've become a big name had the war not intervened and robbed him, and us, of his best playing years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Sadly it was not the war but a knee injury that cut short his career. He became a coach at AG instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 So what we have learnt here, is that several posters can indeed 'beat that' for a full debut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: So what we have learnt here, is that several posters can indeed 'beat that' for a full debut Or that several posters can't read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: So what we have learnt here, is that several posters can indeed 'beat that' for a full debut 3 minutes ago, Libertine1 said: Or that several posters can't read Thanks, Libertine1. As I stated in my first post: SINCE JOE ROYLE'S FULL DEBUT. It is interesting to hear the other pre Royle debuts though. But it goes to show that Taylor possibly has made the most impressive contribution as a striker on full debut since 1977. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 12, 2017 Admin Share Posted February 12, 2017 Certainly combined well with Tammy, just a shame he missed the open goal at 3-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 49 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Huddersfield's local paper think his debut hatrick was against them... http://www.examiner.co.uk/sport/football/news/nightmare-ray-galley-fires-hat-5045358 ..but then they also say in the article that Bert Tann was our manager!! Interestlngly though, Galley also scored a hatrick on his debut for Rotherham...top player "... Bert Tann’s Bristol, "... really ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, handsofclay said: Thanks, Libertine1. As I stated in my first post: SINCE JOE ROYLE'S FULL DEBUT. It is interesting to hear the other pre Royle debuts though. But it goes to show that Taylor possibly has made the most impressive contribution as a striker on full debut since 1977. Steve Torpey away at Grimsby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Steve Torpey away at Grimsby. There have been quite a few who have scored on debut, as Torpey did, since Royle but not bag two assists as well. As the Grimsby game finished one all then obviously he didn't have any assists in that game. Good try though and at least it is in the right time frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 10 minutes ago, handsofclay said: Thanks, Libertine1. As I stated in my first post: SINCE JOE ROYLE'S FULL DEBUT. It is interesting to hear the other pre Royle debuts though. But it goes to show that Taylor possibly has made the most impressive contribution as a striker on full debut since 1977. Isn't that a bit like Sky thinking there was no football before 1992? There were equally impressive debuts as Joe Royle's, not sure why they don't count because they were pre-1977? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, handsofclay said: There have been quite a few who have scored on debut, as Torpey did, since Royle but not bag two assists as well. As the Grimsby game finished one all then obviously he didn't have any assists in that game. Good try though and at least it is in the right time frame. As stated above, Greg Goodridge, bagged a couple on his debut, not sure if he got any assists but we scored 5 so there's a fair chance he may have. More recently and not quite as impressive as Taylor was Wilbs who scored one and set up the other for Elliott at Sheffield United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 hour ago, BS4 on Tour... said: We signed him from Rotherham, I was pretty sure the hatrick was vs Huddersfield, might have to do some quick research now! Galley's debut was at Huddersfield on 16 December 1967 and he scored all 3 goals in a 3-0 win. Went on to score 16 that season. Great player for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Isn't that a bit like Sky thinking there was no football before 1992? There were equally impressive debuts as Joe Royle's, not sure why they don't count because they were pre-1977? Of course they count and I enjoyed reading the accounts of them and there is nothing wrong with people posting about them but 1977 is forty years ago. Prior to that the example of Galley that you provided was less than a decade earlier, so we have gone a very long time since seeing such an impressive debut from a striker... albeit it would've been more impressive still had the assists been goals and he had stuck that sitter away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 10 minutes ago, glynriley said: As stated above, Greg Goodridge, bagged a couple on his debut, not sure if he got any assists but we scored 5 so there's a fair chance he may have. More recently and not quite as impressive as Taylor was Wilbs who scored one and set up the other for Elliott at Sheffield United. I would put two goals, and possibly an assist or even three, above one goal and two assists. However, although I would class Goodridge as a forward player, he was more a winger than a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Didn't Maynard score a hat trick on his debut? Albeit a friendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, handsofclay said: I would put two goals, and possibly an assist or even three, above one goal and two assists. However, although I would class Goodridge as a forward player, he was more a winger than a striker. Fair point. Can I include Colin Lee who after leaving us scored 4 on his debut v roverzzz Just for a giggle!?!?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, handsofclay said: Of course they count and I enjoyed reading the accounts of them and there is nothing wrong with people posting about them but 1977 is forty years ago. Prior to that the example of Galley that you provided was less than a decade earlier, so we have gone a very long time since seeing such an impressive debut from a striker... albeit it would've been more impressive still had the assists been goals and he had stuck that sitter away! Yep Matty seems well up for the challenge of proving himself a decent championship player, he also must (even subconsciously) wish to ram the vitriol back down the gas throats as they gave him unbelievable grief for having the temerity to wish to better himself and his career! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, Tomarse said: Didn't Maynard score a hat trick on his debut? Albeit a friendly If it was a friendly v the Gas then yes, coz they are never friendlies. Against anyone else, sorry but no it doesn't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, handsofclay said: If it was a friendly v the Gas then yes, coz they are never friendlies. Against anyone else, sorry but no it doesn't count. Was Wolves maybe? The third was about 30 yards out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 hour ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Huddersfield's local paper think his debut hatrick was against them... http://www.examiner.co.uk/sport/football/news/nightmare-ray-galley-fires-hat-5045358 ..but then they also say in the article that Bert Tann was our manager!! Interestlngly though, Galley also scored a hatrick on his debut for Rotherham...top player "King of the West Country" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 38 minutes ago, Tomarse said: Didn't Maynard score a hat trick on his debut? Albeit a friendly I think he did, pre season friendly against Antwerp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastonboy Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Age must be getting the better of me, as I thought Carl Shutt had a pretty spectacular debut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, eastonboy said: Age must be getting the better of me, as I thought Carl Shutt had a pretty spectacular debut? I remember him scoring 4 v Fulham but was that his debut? Probably found our winner if it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 29 minutes ago, eastonboy said: Age must be getting the better of me, as I thought Carl Shutt had a pretty spectacular debut? Pretty sure that wasn't his debut but one of his very early games for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Tomarse said: Was Wolves maybe? The third was about 30 yards out You are trying really hard to get it included, I will give you that. That third from about 30 yards out almost swayed me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshys shuffle Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 off topic slightly here,but how goalscorers have we got from Rotherham? Galley,Goater and Agard to name but three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 I also recall David Seal scoring a cracker on debut in a one all v Blackpool in 1995 from about 30 yards out so seeing Taylor's was a tap in maybe the extra 29 yards equates to two assists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, walshys shuffle said: off topic slightly here,but how goalscorers have we got from Rotherham? Galley,Goater and Agard to name but three. Maybe we should send them Engvall on loan. He will return a world beater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 As with managers we should always hold our horses in coming to instant judgments on new players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P'head Red Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: As with managers we should always hold our horses in coming to instant judgments on new players. Yep, lets not be happy he had a good debut (poor miss aside), and wait and see if he turns out crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Been thinking of false dawns Not City but Glos cricket: Saw David Shepherd score a century in his first innings since joining from Devon. First debut century since Wally Hammond. Heralded as the second Hammond. Really lovely lovely bloke but never a second Hammond. The century was what used to be called 'agricultural'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, P'head Red said: Yep, lets not be happy he had a good debut (poor miss aside), and wait and see if he turns out crap. You must be far too young not to have seen many false dawns with players at City. Hope he makes it, pleased he scored, but let's wait and see, say us old timers, who have been disappointed so many times before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Did Lee Matthews make his debut at home to Millwall on a Friday night? Sure he got a last minute penalty in a highly charged game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Bristol Rob said: Did Lee Matthews make his debut at home to Millwall on a Friday night? Sure he got a last minute penalty in a highly charged game. Yes. We won 2-1 thanks to that last minute pen. Millwall we're tearing up seats in the first few minutes. Brilliant atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 hour ago, ashton_fan said: Galley's debut was at Huddersfield on 16 December 1967 and he scored all 3 goals in a 3-0 win. Went on to score 16 that season. Great player for us. john galley superstar how many goals have you scored so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said: Yes. We won 2-1 thanks to that last minute pen. Millwall we're tearing up seats in the first few minutes. Brilliant atmosphere. I remember taking a bloke I worked with at the time along as he'd never been to a live game before. He never came back. He was amazed at how dangerously charged the atmosphere was. He was quite scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 27 minutes ago, handsofclay said: I also recall David Seal scoring a cracker on debut in a one all v Blackpool in 1995 from about 30 yards out so seeing Taylor's was a tap in maybe the extra 29 yards equates to two assists. That was the game Blackpool scored after 13 seconds? Not sure that was his debut though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 18 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Did Lee Matthews make his debut at home to Millwall on a Friday night? Sure he got a last minute penalty in a highly charged game. I think we were down to nine men at the time. Can't remember the two we had sent off though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Libertine1 said: That was the game Blackpool scored after 13 seconds? Not sure that was his debut though? Actually, you are most probably right. Got confused with it being the first game of the season. Jordan was manager for that one and I'm sure Seal was signed by Osman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Lee Miller scored in a 5-0 win on his debut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 31 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: As with managers we should always hold our horses in coming to instant judgments on new players. Yet you call yourself after a player who is most remembered for being a stand in goalkeeper and keeping Watford at bay for about 80 mins in an important one nil win in the promotion winning season of 1954-55. He only played in that position for us once but you seem to have come to an instant judgement to elevate him to hero status. Good full back he apparently was for us mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 39 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: As with managers we should always hold our horses in coming to instant judgments on new players. Blimey ! Have you ever got anything positive to say. You must be a Barrel of laughs . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 14 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: I remember taking a bloke I worked with at the time along as he'd never been to a live game before. He never came back. He was amazed at how dangerously charged the atmosphere was. He was quite scared. I can only assume Millwall fans had spent the whole afternoon getting tanked up as (if I remember correctly) they kicked off about the same time the actual game kicked off. Whilst I enjoy highly charged atmospheres like that I can understand how a neutral visitor might be put off. That late winner though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 31 minutes ago, Libertine1 said: Lee Miller scored in a 5-0 win on his debut His Granny was the one on this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 39 minutes ago, handsofclay said: Yet you call yourself after a player who is most remembered for being a stand in goalkeeper and keeping Watford at bay for about 80 mins in an important one nil win in the promotion winning season of 1954-55. He only played in that position for us once but you seem to have come to an instant judgement to elevate him to hero status. Good full back he apparently was for us mind. Let me explain. I have always been hopeless at sport when picked at right back for school under 11s in The Fifties I was advised to watch Ivor, coming to the end of his career. He was markedly slowing up but his positional sense was as good as I have seen at City. Why you should have taken it upon yourself to put in the public arena why I chose Ivor as a username without knowing anything about me, and little about Ivor I find really odd, but, hell, this is otib. Half of us are barking and the other half hatters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 32 minutes ago, alexukhc said: His Granny was the one on this forum You what!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 3 hours ago, ashton_fan said: Galley's debut was at Huddersfield on 16 December 1967 and he scored all 3 goals in a 3-0 win. Went on to score 16 that season. Great player for us. Remember as a kid rushing round to Melvin Square to get the Green'un to read all about it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 And didn't Galley score on his home debut the following Saturday? Think it was in a 1/1 draw but can't remember who against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Ivorguy said: Let me explain. I have always been hopeless at sport when picked at right back for school under 11s in The Fifties I was advised to watch Ivor, coming to the end of his career. He was markedly slowing up but his positional sense was as good as I have seen at City. Why you should have taken it upon yourself to put in the public arena why I chose Ivor as a username without knowing anything about me, and little about Ivor I find really odd, but, hell, this is otib. Half of us are barking and the other half hatters. And you haven't thought to tell LJ that you are a very experienced right-back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 15 minutes ago, stephenkibby. said: And didn't Galley score on his home debut the following Saturday? Think it was in a 1/1 draw but can't remember who against. Ipswich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Libertine1 said: You what!? She would often post on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I think what impressed me most was his movement. Tammy is great at finding space and losing his man but Taylor did that and was also able to pull the defense around. He was making runs purely to draw the man with him and really I think it was this that made the difference in the first half. We suddenly had space to play in and they were struggling to pick him and Tammy up. If our defense wasn't so leaky I'd love to see Tomlin in behind both of them, he would suddenly have loads of space to play with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Libertine1 said: Lee Miller scored in a 5-0 win on his debut He missed at Swindon though!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 3 hours ago, handsofclay said: I think we were down to nine men at the time. Can't remember the two we had sent off though. They were down to nine not us. Harris and Dyche had been sent off for them and we were down to ten but I really can`t remember who`d been sent off for us. What a night that was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityred exile Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 12 hours ago, Bar BS3 said: Gregg Goodridge had the best debut I've ever seen. I really thought we'd just signed the best player in the world...! Yeah I remember THAT TUESDAY NIGHT HOME TO LUTON THINK HE WAS FETCHED FROM THE AIRPORT JUST HOURS BEFOR one of joe jordans signings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 13 hours ago, 054123 said: Joe Royale? The posh version of Joe Royal? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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