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He said in his Bristol Sport (catalogue of successful teams) breakfast that if relegation occured we'd all come back when we are at the top.

The moron has forgotten that Bristol City is a proud club and that LJ's highest finish in the league below (forgetting he's thick as ****) is 11th. 

We're actually sleepwalking into a L1 nightmare and he's happy to let that happen. 

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59 minutes ago, Benjam!n Ultra said:

He said in his Bristol Sport (catalogue of successful teams) breakfast that if relegation occured we'd all come back when we are at the top.

The moron has forgotten that Bristol City is a proud club and that LJ's highest finish in the league below (forgetting he's thick as ****) is 11th. 

We're actually sleepwalking into a L1 nightmare and he's happy to let that happen. 

Moron?

Seriously?

 

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48 minutes ago, Bob Thompson said:

What do you expect him to say. We've gone from first to fourth in the past.if this squad is not good enough we have to have a back up plan.With ffp we can't buy another one.

Well we probably wont be able to buy a new squad because his boy has just bought half a new squad in january. Not much room for manouvre left in terms of ffp id imagine.

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13 minutes ago, milo1111 said:

Well we probably wont be able to buy a new squad because his boy has just bought half a new squad in january. Not much room for manouvre left in terms of ffp id imagine.

I wouldn't worry too much, most of the players won't want to stay if we go down. Recoup a bit in fees, although obviously less than paid, and s smaller wage bill.

And then I guess SL's assumption is that we will just cruise back to the top of League 1 and the crowds will flock back. That's not exactly what happened last time we went down. As I recall we were nearly 3 months into the season before we managed a win! No reason to suggest we would find it any easier next time, with a new team having to be put together from scratch...

 

especially if LJ is still in charge!

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12 minutes ago, RedDave said:

OP is a knob.  

Truth hurts eh? Feel the need to resort to childish insults at the OP because he has come out and said the reality that we all know but dont want to face? Look in the mirror pal.

Lansdown pisses away millions year after year and the return from his investment is utter drivel. His blind faith in Johnson  and reluctance to remove an absolute loser from the club is is akin to gross incompetence. The fact that we stand to meet our tramp neighbours in league action next season tells us everything we need to know about the absolute failure Lansdowns "project" is fast becoming, 

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6 minutes ago, Bullbag said:

Rubbish.

The man has ripped the heart out of this club.

I  can cope with lower league football unfortunately it looks like we're going to have to endure all the premiership bullshit whilst playing Northampton next season.  It's a ******* disgrace, do one or the other but we appear to be getting the worst of both worlds.

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IMHO SL is fully responsible for this seasons shambles, I actually feel a little sorry for LJ.. has any other manager been allowed to just go on and on losing games without reprisal... should have been put out of his misery in December... 

One consistently with our club... failure!!!

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35 minutes ago, Wanderingred said:

Truth hurts eh? Feel the need to resort to childish insults at the OP because he has come out and said the reality that we all know but dont want to face? Look in the mirror pal.

Lansdown pisses away millions year after year and the return from his investment is utter drivel. His blind faith in Johnson  and reluctance to remove an absolute loser from the club is is akin to gross incompetence. The fact that we stand to meet our tramp neighbours in league action next season tells us everything we need to know about the absolute failure Lansdowns "project" is fast becoming, 

Someone who has invested millions into the cub should not be called a moron. You're clearly a knob as well.

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1 minute ago, RedDave said:

Someone who has invested millions into the cub should not be called a moron. You're clearly a knob as well.

This I totally agree with, whilst the footballing decisions have been terrible on the whole SL has stuck by the club and delivered a lot!!! We're still as shit as the day he signed up mind!!

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10 minutes ago, RedDave said:

Someone who has invested millions into the cub should not be called a moron. You're clearly a knob as well.

I agree that perhaps calling him a moron was a little harsh but as another poster said, his current behaviour and blind faith in his project is pretty moronic and people are rightly calling him out for it,

We are all pretty hacked off right now, but you shouldnt personally insult me or the OP. We all support the same team and at the end of the day just want BCFC to succeed. Lets stick together.

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9 minutes ago, Wanderingred said:

I agree that perhaps calling him a moron was a little harsh but as another poster said, his current behaviour and blind faith in his project is pretty moronic and people are rightly calling him out for it,

We are all pretty hacked off right now, but you shouldnt personally insult me or the OP. We all support the same team and at the end of the day just want BCFC to succeed. Lets stick together.

I insulted the OP for insulting our owner who has ploughed millions into this club. Potentially we would be a lot worse off without him.

I insulted you for defending the OP. 

Lansdown may be flawed in his managerial selections and for his backing of LJ but we could well be worse off without him.  

 

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57 minutes ago, Wanderingred said:

Truth hurts eh? Feel the need to resort to childish insults at the OP because he has come out and said the reality that we all know but dont want to face? Look in the mirror pal.

Lansdown pisses away millions year after year and the return from his investment is utter drivel. His blind faith in Johnson  and reluctance to remove an absolute loser from the club is is akin to gross incompetence. The fact that we stand to meet our tramp neighbours in league action next season tells us everything we need to know about the absolute failure Lansdowns "project" is fast becoming, 

"The truth hurts" eh?

Do you think it's the truth that Lansdown "doesn't care"?

Do you think it's the truth that he's a "moron"?

Do you think it's the truth that he's "happy to let that happen"?

The OP is talking utter garbage. SL has made some poor decisions but to suggest he doesn't care is clearly rubbish.

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2 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

"The truth hurts" eh?

Do you think it's the truth that Lansdown "doesn't care"?

Do you think it's the truth that he's a "moron"?

Do you think it's the truth that he's "happy to let that happen"?

The OP is talking utter garbage. SL has made some poor decisions but to suggest he doesn't care is clearly rubbish.

But surely if he cared he would have stopped the current situation before now? 

If he cares so much why is he allowing such an inept manager carry on for so long? 

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I hope SL does read this forum as he said, the fans disagreeing with a manager is one thing, the owner something VERY, VERY different.  It feels like we're getting to that point and I think relegation would be disastrous for the SL fan relationship.

 

Relegation is something that happens and I'm sure we all accept that, but the manner of the relegation smacks of either incompetence or arrogance.  That will not be forgiven.

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1 minute ago, phantom said:

But surely if he cared he would have stopped the current situation before now? 

If he cares so much why is he allowing such an inept manager carry on for so long? 

Because he thinks it's the right decision, even if most of us don't agree with it. Absolutely nothing to do with not caring.

I suspect there may have been attempts to recruit a replacement going on in the background that are either ongoing, or failed to materialise.

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28 minutes ago, RedDave said:

I insulted the OP for insulting our owner who has ploughed millions into this club. Potentially we would be a lot worse off without him.

I insulted you for defending the OP.

Lansdown may be flawed in his managerial selections and for his backing of LJ but we could well be worse off without him.  

 

Yes indeed. Would you kindly not do that please? There are more grown up ways to debate with people.

Im grateful for all Lansdown has done for us off the field, but we are plummeting backwards on it. Compare him to the likes of Hew Jenkins and Tony Bloom who have operated within similar budgets and he has been an utter failure. Its about time he took some criticism for his decision making because we the fans are the ones that have to bear the brunt of it with week after week of rubbish football.

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20 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

"The truth hurts" eh?

Do you think it's the truth that Lansdown "doesn't care"?

Do you think it's the truth that he's a "moron"?

Do you think it's the truth that he's "happy to let that happen"?

The OP is talking utter garbage. SL has made some poor decisions but to suggest he doesn't care is clearly rubbish.

I dont even know anymore mate. I've always considered SL as caring passionately about this club but he's let this farce continue to such an extent that I'm beginning to wonder whats on his mind. Is he happy now that he's got the Bristol Sport model up and running? Maybe he should come out and explain to us why he's sticking with a man who is taking us straight to League 1 and why he thinks its good for the club, rather than just blaming the fans? Some of us dedicate all their free time to this club and deserve a real answer as to why they have to continually watch absolute garbage whilst our owner sits back and does nothing about it.

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Lansdown does seem indifferent to our plight in that he's the one man in a position to pull some levers to try to change it and he's choosing not to do it.

He exhibits a clueless mentality when it comes to ownership of a football club. He's portrayed as a billionaire benefactor with the City crest stamped through his DNA but he's really just another in a long line of club owners whose attitude is "it's my club and I'll do what I want with it."

Lansdown needs to think long and hard about whether he's acting in the best long-term interests of the club. If not, then he needs to make way for someone who will.

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2 hours ago, RumRed said:

I hope SL does read this forum as he said, the fans disagreeing with a manager is one thing, the owner something VERY, VERY different.  It feels like we're getting to that point and I think relegation would be disastrous for the SL fan relationship.

 

Relegation is something that happens and I'm sure we all accept that, but the manner of the relegation smacks of either incompetence or arrogance.  That will not be forgiven.

Steve Lansdown has cultivated the regular guy persona, even though he is phenomenally wealthy. I think he has a colossal ego, and can`t bear to be proved wrong. This muddle headed intransigence will see us relegated, and I believe he would earn far more respect from fans if he was a tad more humble, and a tad more clear headed. There may be just enough time to save the day, but not if he prevaricates. I am not especially hopeful that he will act in time. 

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I have much respect for SL but felt somewhat irked when he suggested that the fans shouldn't voice their opinions during the Fulham game.

I travel 4 hours each way (not to mention petrol/food/ticket costs etc) to watch the crap currently being served up and I'll voice my opinion if I want to.

I'm seriously considering calling it a day for the season, I mean what would you do if you were me?

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Of course he cares but like LJ he totally out of his depth when it comes to making sound football decisions.

SL has shown incredible passion/love for this club but he has to hand the football decisions over to people who can deal with them, there's no other option, end of story :grr:.

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Losing all respect for the man after this season's shambles.  Such a shame he can't step back and accept his failings and poor judgement.

Lovely stadium but zero progression really in establishing ourselves as championship football club despite years chucking endless cash at it. 

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3 hours ago, phantom said:

 

Finger of blame will point forever at SL when we go down this season 

While LJ is severely out of his depth and is the hands on cause of our poor performances and disastrous run, the ultimate blame, when (not if) we are relegated must lie with SL.  He chose Johnson and has continued to back a manager so quite clearly floundering.  The fault will lie with him 100% IMO.

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Please correct me if I'm wrong, so much being flung around I've lost track of reality...... But, didn't SL say when talking about relegation...

"I won't let that happen" or words to that effect?

If so, how do we think he won't let it happen, we're still sliding, and don't appear to be slowing down!

If on the other hand he didn't say this,  sorry Steve, I'll get the nurse to increase my dosage. :blink:

 

ps, we are becoming less attractive a proposition by the day to prospective new managers.

 

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If SL retains LJ for the rest of the season ( which looks likely) and by some miracle we avoid relegation, I would - for the first in in 25 years - question whether I would renew my season ticket  next season, because I cannot  see LJ ever getting to grips with  this situation  and therfore cannot see any change to the drivel we have had to endure this season. I dont think  I would be the only one thinking this way .

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6 minutes ago, Superjack said:

I remember when it was our club.

Or at least it felt like it. :-(

Unfortunately you have a point. It's not about shareholders of which I am one it's about stakeholders which we all are. Lee is utterly rubbish at his job and we as stakeholders/shareholders are of no consequence. 

I am and will remain a huge proponent of Steve. The bloke is awesome. However as a former chairman once said to me you can't fool the supporters they always work it out. (Yes it's true)

The strange situation we have that a board Of directors has no real say on anything in deference to Steve is...well strange...I am not a puppet!

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7 hours ago, Benjam!n Ultra said:

He said in his Bristol Sport (catalogue of successful teams) breakfast that if relegation occured we'd all come back when we are at the top.

The moron has forgotten that Bristol City is a proud club and that LJ's highest finish in the league below (forgetting he's thick as ****) is 11th. 

We're actually sleepwalking into a L1 nightmare and he's happy to let that happen. 

Doesn't care? Are you ******* kidding me? The block has just brought us a new ground

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14 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

Unfortunately you have a point. It's not about shareholders of which I am one it's about stakeholders which we all are. Lee is utterly rubbish at his job and we as stakeholders/shareholders are of no consequence. 

I am and will remain a huge proponent of Steve. The bloke is awesome. However as a former chairman once said to me you can't fool the supporters they always work it out. (Yes it's true)

The strange situation we have that a board Of directors has no real say on anything in deference to Steve is...well strange...I am not a puppet!

We have a Board of Directors? Really you would never know it. Chairman - silence. Vice Chairman - silence. Majority shareholder meeting the press and making the most important decisions it would seem.

When they say football is a business like no other that description of the business model sums it up. And when someone as useless as LJ appears comes along and drives it into the ground without a change being made then it really is unbelievable.

Being supportive of a manager is great. Blind faith when all the evidence points to the fact that the guy is out of his depth is not. Leicester's Thai owners may be blamed for getting rid of Ranieri but if they stay up that will be forgiven in the main. If they went down with him still in charge, Premier League winning manager or not, then the consequences would be huge.

But then Ranieri wasn't a friend of the owner's son...

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5 hours ago, 'keepuplino' said:

IMHO SL is fully responsible for this seasons shambles, I actually feel a little sorry for LJ.. has any other manager been allowed to just go on and on losing games without reprisal... should have been put out of his misery in December... 

One consistently with our club... failure!!!

This is what's is wrong with the world,  always someone else's fault.  Bottom line is Johnson is out of his depth and he's not man enough to admit it and stand down.

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5 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said:

"The truth hurts" eh?

Do you think it's the truth that Lansdown "doesn't care"?

Do you think it's the truth that he's a "moron"?

Do you think it's the truth that he's "happy to let that happen"?

The OP is talking utter garbage. SL has made some poor decisions but to suggest he doesn't care is clearly rubbish.

In short a huge Yes! If not LJ would be gone and we wouldn't be on the brink of another relegation. 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Dr Balls said:

We have a Board of Directors? Really you would never know it. Chairman - silence. Vice Chairman - silence. Majority shareholder meeting the press and making the most important decisions it would seem.

When they say football is a business like no other that description of the business model sums it up. And when someone as useless as LJ appears comes along and drives it into the ground without a change being made then it really is unbelievable.

Being supportive of a manager is great. Blind faith when all the evidence points to the fact that the guy is out of his depth is not. Leicester's Thai owners may be blamed for getting rid of Ranieri but if they stay up that will be forgiven in the main. If they went down with him still in charge, Premier League winning manager or not, then the consequences would be huge.

But then Ranieri wasn't a friend of the owner's son...

Yup it has to be a first. On the verge of relegation and predominately due to Nepotism!!

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6 hours ago, 'keepuplino' said:

IMHO SL is fully responsible for this seasons shambles, I actually feel a little sorry for LJ.. has any other manager been allowed to just go on and on losing games without reprisal... should have been put out of his misery in December... 

One consistently with our club... failure!!!

What about Mark Ashton? Isn't he in charge of 'all things football'?

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Well this one stirred the virgins. 

Face it if he cared he'd stop us going down, instead he's allowing LJ to do it because his ego won't admit defeat. 

His comments at his breakfast were appalling and I can't believe we are just accepting it. 

 

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People's blind faith to SL resembles his own blind faith towards LJ, he needs to start to be questioned. The club is unsaleable (not that i want him to sell up) because of him and his ownership of the stadium and BS and he needs to be held accountable for the mess as well at some stage.

Annoys me whenever someone dares criticise him they get accused of "not having a clue" and "where would we be wihout him"........well who knows where we would be, i remember Bournemouth being taken over by some random Russian and they aint doing too badly.

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8 minutes ago, Benjam!n Ultra said:

Well this one stirred the virgins. 

Face it if he cared he'd stop us going down, instead he's allowing LJ to do it because his ego won't admit defeat. 

His comments at his breakfast were appalling and I can't believe we are just accepting it. 

 

The one where he said he ''Would not'' let us go down? 

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1 minute ago, RaspberryRed said:

The one where he said he ''Would not'' let us go down? 

No the ones mentioned in the OP. 

All he means there is that he believes LJ won't take us down. LJ is here regardless of the league we are in.

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8 hours ago, Benjam!n Ultra said:

He said in his Bristol Sport (catalogue of successful teams) breakfast that if relegation occured we'd all come back when we are at the top.

The moron has forgotten that Bristol City is a proud club and that LJ's highest finish in the league below (forgetting he's thick as ****) is 11th. 

We're actually sleepwalking into a L1 nightmare and he's happy to let that happen. 

I'm with you. SL has no real interest in BCFC. His only interest is in the vehicle that's known as Bristol Sport to get him what he wants.

I have no idea what that might be. 

A revenue stream from a number of different sources?

Land acquisition and development opportunities in an area of Bristol that was previously cheaper than the surrounding areas?

A knighthood for services to Bristol?

The one thing he hasn't achieved is a consistently good football team. And that's all I care about.

 

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3 hours ago, AzerbaijanApeman said:

Lansdown does seem indifferent to our plight in that he's the one man in a position to pull some levers to try to change it and he's choosing not to do it.

He exhibits a clueless mentality when it comes to ownership of a football club. He's portrayed as a billionaire benefactor with the City crest stamped through his DNA but he's really just another in a long line of club owners whose attitude is "it's my club and I'll do what I want with it."

Lansdown needs to think long and hard about whether he's acting in the best long-term interests of the club. If not, then he needs to make way for someone who will.

The problem for SL (and all chairmen) is that you've got to give the manager 100% backing right up to the point where you pull the plug. Let's hope Mark Ashton is at a hotel somewhere having breakfast with Gary Rowett.  Personally I'm glad SL isn't a trigger happy chairman, but now it's time to act. 

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2 hours ago, JonDolman said:

I genuinely believe Lansdown will sack Johnson when we are in the bottom 3. Which might not happen as we really should beat burton. It might be because in the contract it says he can sack him without a pay off. If that's the case, then it kind of makes sense. If we didn't have Lansdown then we'd probably be a league 1 club. And not necessarily a very good one. 

I think he's bought in to LJ lock stock and barrel, I think he has accepted we're going down and thinks LJ is the right man to re group. You literally couldn't make it up, when we've lost 1-0 to Plymouth is he going to say we need more fight, more dynamics, perhaps I need another 3 transfer windows 

I think we're down and worse I think it's been accepted at the club

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11 hours ago, Benjam!n Ultra said:

He said in his Bristol Sport (catalogue of successful teams) breakfast that if relegation occured we'd all come back when we are at the top.

The moron has forgotten that Bristol City is a proud club and that LJ's highest finish in the league below (forgetting he's thick as ****) is 11th. 

We're actually sleepwalking into a L1 nightmare and he's happy to let that happen. 

I do think that it is completely unacceptable to describe Steve Lansdown as a 'moron', given what he has done for the club.  I hope that most posters on this forum would agree with me on that.  You may not agree with him, but then you don't have as much money at stake as he has, so this issue is a little more difficult for him.  Its easy to post gratuitous comments online when you don't have millions at stake.

You may also be 'thick as ****' for all I know, but I don't know you and I suspect you don't know Lee Johnson either. 

Let's debate the situation, but let's stay away from the insults.  We are not 'actually sleepwalking' anywhere.  The club is trying to turn things around.  You may not agree with what they are doing, and they may fail, but don't suggest that difficult decisions are not already being taken.

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6 hours ago, NorwichbasedWurzel said:

I have much respect for SL but felt somewhat irked when he suggested that the fans shouldn't voice their opinions during the Fulham game.

I travel 4 hours each way (not to mention petrol/food/ticket costs etc) to watch the crap currently being served up and I'll voice my opinion if I want to.

I'm seriously considering calling it a day for the season, I mean what would you do if you were me?

I live 25 minutes from AG, and I'm seriously considering calling it a day for this season! And I wont be signing up for 3rd division football again.

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6 hours ago, NorwichbasedWurzel said:

I have much respect for SL but felt somewhat irked when he suggested that the fans shouldn't voice their opinions during the Fulham game.

I travel 4 hours each way (not to mention petrol/food/ticket costs etc) to watch the crap currently being served up and I'll voice my opinion if I want to.

I'm seriously considering calling it a day for the season, I mean what would you do if you were me?

I certainly wouldn't waste 8 hours  for 90 minutes of watching this shower of shite do yourself a favour STOP .

 

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11 hours ago, Bullbag said:

Rubbish.

The man has ripped the heart out of this club.

No he hasn't , he's guilty of not picking good managers . That is his only crime!!

Hes gave this club a heart beat and for years to come. Easy for the likes of you to underestimate that.

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12 hours ago, Benjam!n Ultra said:

He said in his Bristol Sport (catalogue of successful teams) breakfast that if relegation occured we'd all come back when we are at the top.

The moron has forgotten that Bristol City is a proud club and that LJ's highest finish in the league below (forgetting he's thick as ****) is 11th. 

We're actually sleepwalking into a L1 nightmare and he's happy to let that happen. 

Hardly a "moron". He built the world's biggest brokerage firm in just 25 years.

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2 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

Hardly a "moron". He built the world's biggest brokerage firm in just 25 years.

It is becoming increasingly possible that in fact it was Peter Hargreaves who did that and Steve Lansdown got lucky. 

Let's face it, on the evidence of Bristol City Lansdown is closer to Trump when it comes to running business than Bill Gates.

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4 minutes ago, Chairman Mao said:

It is becoming increasingly possible that in fact it was Peter Hargreaves who did that and Steve Lansdown got lucky. 

Let's face it, on the evidence of Bristol City Lansdown is closer to Trump when it comes to running business than Bill Gates.

I can't see why Hargreaves would have carried an inept business partner for all these years. Business partnerships only last if you have 100% faith in the other guy.

Feel free to have a go at Lansdown over decisions he has taken regarding City. But he patently isn't "a moron".

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1 minute ago, Red-Robbo said:

I can't see why Hargreaves would have carried an inept business partner for all these years. Business partnerships only last if you have 100% faith in the other guy.

Feel free to have a go at Lansdown over decisions he has taken regarding City. But he patently isn't "a moron".

I never said he was a Moron. Hargreaves was the driving force, Lansdown the bean counter. It's a shame Hargreaves isn't the City fan. 

Lansdown has been brilliant with the new stadium but the nepotism of getting his son to run the club is galling. This is a multi million pound business not a bloody Sunday fete. Also Lansdown has had limited influence at HL for some time. Others have taken the company to the next level (I assume he is still on the board but not an exec?)

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16 minutes ago, Bullbag said:

I'm not going to argue with you about it.

This club has progressively lost its soul.

And SL is to blame.

We are an absolute laughing stock.

Spot on. From the Eastend going to the management picking inept coaches, to a board full of clueless businessmen,  we have become an absolute laughing stock and I can't justify renewing my season ticket or even going for the rest of this season.

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