ChippenhamRed Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Yep Convinvced he can be a great Manager / Head Coach and level headed enough to coach / manage at any level IMHO Anyone judging him at the basket case that was Valencia is short sighted IMHO Clearly intelligent and talks a very good game. His autobiography is also an excellent and insightful read. None of which guarantees any sort of success but I'd rather he was in the dugout on Tuesday than Johnson, that's for sure. Although I'd probably say the same for....well, anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeOTIB Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 minute ago, ChippenhamRed said: Clearly intelligent and talks a very good game. His autobiography is also an excellent and insightful read. None of which guarantees any sort of success but I'd rather he was in the dugout on Tuesday than Johnson, that's for sure. Although I'd probably say the same for....well, anyone. What about Gary? Would you rather him in the dugout than LJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman85 Posted March 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, redpole said: Gary Rowett Nigel Pearson Stuart Pearce Steve Clarke Jimmy Floyd Hasslebank Alan Pardew Tim Sherwood Mark Warburton Yet we will wait and wait and eventually appoint Appleton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 Just now, 29AR said: I'm convinced too, but the man has one life left. He isn't going to spend it here. One bad managerial stint and he could find himself in a place even sky won't touch. He can afford to be picky. He certainly isn't coming to the managerial graveyard that is Ashton Gate. A fair point 29AR I just wonder whether the project , the potential backing, may appeal - doesn't strike me that he possesses any form of ego so I'm not sure he would dismiss us instantly think the problem is that we've left it far too late Anyone but the most self confident manager / coach will seriously have to consider he will have a relegation on his CV in 2 months and be managing In L1 come August Hardly appealing I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman85 Posted March 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 minute ago, JakeOTIB said: What about Gary? Would you rather him in the dugout than LJ? i would sooner have Uncle Pete than LJ! Though I'm convinced he scouted Engvall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 18 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Tin hat on but I'd seriously consider approaching that ex Valencia Coach to at least sound out his interest if at all Which one? The obvious one or the rest of them? But I don't think Neville would be interested! another failing team I seem to have support for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 minute ago, JakeOTIB said: What about Gary? Would you rather him in the dugout than LJ? Honestly I don't think it matters that much who is in the dugout; as long as it's not LJ. The squad is good enough that anyone with them onside will guide them to safety. They clearly don't want to do it with/for LJ. He has to go to ensure survival. In June, if I was in Mark Ashton's shoes, there'd be a fair few told stay away and find a new club. Their attitude and application stinks enough that I'd be convinced that they were going through the motions, even in massive games for the club like Rotherham and Burton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 16 minutes ago, redsquirrel said: only one man for me,already mentioned,bring cotts back,apologise to the bloke and offer him the backing for the quality he needs to sustain a decent championship club Why bother even thinking that? Never in a million years will that happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 minute ago, JakeOTIB said: What about Gary? Would you rather him in the dugout than LJ? Johnson? Lineker? Rowett? Neville? Barlow? Yes to all of the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 How about that guy that played a few games for MU, Ryan................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, JakeOTIB said: Hasn't got much managerial experience in England mind. All be it, give him a go,but technically LJ has more Championship experience then Neville. But then again,you could say the same about Mourinho and Guardiola. 4 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: Clearly intelligent and talks a very good game. His autobiography is also an excellent and insightful read. None of which guarantees any sort of success but I'd rather he was in the dugout on Tuesday than Johnson, that's for sure. Although I'd probably say the same for....well, anyone. My reasons Intelligent Analytically very good Down to earth Very honest Has a CV and rputation that should command respect Hard working Strikes me as someone who wouldn't faff about with fancy formations and trying to be overclever Think you could guarantee a City side that gives it their all (Don't think he would suffer lazy players or those with more ego than ability) Well connected in the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, bpexile said: How about that guy that played a few games for MU, Ryan................ Not having that Tuesday anywhere near here. People talk in those terms about Warnock but christ, Ryan Giggs would be a stain on this family club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 19 minutes ago, redpole said: Gary Rowett Nigel Pearson Stuart Pearce Steve Clarke Jimmy Floyd Hasslebank Alan Pardew Tim Sherwood Mark Warburton Having analysed your list, Sherwood suits Forest, Warburton wants too much bread and Clarke is a shoe-in elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeOTIB Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 And he's been at the highest level so he certainly has very good experience in that department. 3 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: My reasons Intelligent Analytically very good Down to earth Very honest Has a CV and rputation that should command respect Hard working Strikes me as someone who wouldn't faff about with fancy formations and trying to be overclever Think you could guarantee a City side that gives it their all (Don't think he would suffer lazy players or those with more ego than ability) Well connected in the game And he has experience in the highest level so he certainly has some good experience in that department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: A fair point 29AR I just wonder whether the project , the potential backing, may appeal - doesn't strike me that he possesses any form of ego so I'm not sure he would dismiss us instantly think the problem is that we've left it far too late Anyone but the most self confident manager / coach will seriously have to consider he will have a relegation on his CV in 2 months and be managing In L1 come August Hardly appealing I agree I honestly don't think relegation is a foregone conclusion. I think this squad could string a number of wins back to back if they wanted. It's clear with LJ at the helm they do not want. That's a post mortem for the end of the season but if I was interviewing tomorrow I'd be handing a list of names to the candidate and saying 'I'm bombing them out before they stab you and the club in the back (again) so think about summer replacements'. I think GN would be an exceptional appointment. I don't think he has an ego too. But you just have to look at managers who have come here failed and then succeeded elsewhere, managers who have come here and not been backed because the top dog didn't fancy them, managers that we've turned our back on. The reason we go cheap is because we have a rotten reputation. The reason LJ is still here, I'm sure, is because the interested alternatives would be equally divisive. If Pardew et al had any interest he'd be gone. I'm certain. Even with no ego, I do think Neville wouldn't even return our call. In his shoes I wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, bpexile said: How about that guy that played a few games for MU, Ryan................ I'd take Gary Neville before him - Not sure why Giggs was being hyped around Fantastic player but no obvious evidence of an ability to coach or manage (the same could be said of Neville but he has coached with Valencia and England , although neither enhances his CV greatly ! - Just think anyone who is so astute analytically and can explain it to the average football fan has the real potential to improve players individually and as a side) I think the biggest obstacle would be his Sky and personal business commitments ( As @Kid in the Riot has suggested before , he has indicated he intends to concentrate on these for the foreseeable but I still think it could be sold to him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aipearcey Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 23 minutes ago, redpole said: Gary Rowett Nigel Pearson Stuart Pearce Steve Clarke Jimmy Floyd Hasslebank Alan Pardew Tim Sherwood Mark Warburton Speak to any Swindon fan about Tim sherwood...... I wouldn't want him anywhere near our club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: Having analysed your list, Sherwood suits Forest, Warburton wants too much bread and Clarke is a shoe-in elsewhere. Warburton to Forest as long as they stay up according to reports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said: I'd take Gary Neville before him - Not sure why Giggs was being hyped around Fantastic player but no obvious evidence of an ability to coach or manage (the same could be said of Neville but he has coached with Valencia and England , although neither enhances his CV quickly - Just think anyone who is so astute analytically and can explain it to the average football fan has the real potential to improve players individually and as a side) Valencia didn't do well with him but it's a different game over there. Also you have to look at Valencia currently and say a lot of confunding factors played there part. A hate seeing it but VCF is just going backwards massively. People think city is badly is run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwickshire Red Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 Neville is another risky one as only has limited experience abroad and failed. We need proven experience this time such as Rowett or some of the other names mentioned IMO. I rather we left him to his punditry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Rocker Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 22 minutes ago, redsquirrel said: only one man for me,already mentioned,bring cotts back,apologise to the bloke and offer him the backing for the quality he needs to sustain a decent championship club Jesus H. Tap Dancing Christ, are you for real? Un ******* believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said: No chance: http://www.devonlive.com/paul-tisdale-contemplates-career-in-business-not-football-after-exeter-city/story-29934557-detail/story.html Good find,what a good article,he likes his teams to play passing football and loves playing young players and he cant just be bought off by some billionaire chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 Jimmy Floyd Hasslebank wanted the job when Cotts went - Was unhappy with the set up at QPR and was more than ready to jump to the South West (would be a gamble for me - promise at Burton but QPR did him no favours , albeit not necessarily of his making) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: I'd take Gary Neville before him - Not sure why Giggs was being hyped around Fantastic player but no obvious evidence of an ability to coach or manage (the same could be said of Neville but he has coached with Valencia and England , although neither enhances his CV quickly - Just think anyone who is so astute analytically and can explain it to the average football fan has the real potential to improve players individually and as a side) He certainly talks a good game, but the same could be said about our current manager, wouldn't you say? GN has a fantastic CV as a player, but his CV as a manager....well he hasn't earned his stripes, to say the least. He got the England assistant job by default and he got the Valencia job by default, neither went well at all for him. He is proving to be very out-spoken in the media and has rubbed manager and fans up the wrong way, including calling an Arsenal fan an 'idiot' on air. Not hugely level headed behaviour?! I wonder if some prem managers would actually want to do with business with him after he slagged them off?! Could be tough getting prem youth loans! I agree he certainly has personal characteristics that appeal, but surely he is such a huge gamble just at a time when we shouldn't be taking one. SL took LJ on a 'hunch' and Neville would be arguably even more so, IMO. Surely we need someone more proven next time? I personally bloody well hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 Personally Rowett seems to be the best choice for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, Warwickshire Red said: Neville is another risky one as only has limited experience abroad and failed. We need proven experience this time such as Rowett or some of the other names mentioned IMO. I rather we left him to his punditry. Think it's a more than fair argument It's a strange one though isn't it - Gary Rowett is 'hot' at the moment having had a reasonable career as a player , continued the Burton roll / momentum , did a good / steady job at Brum - Appears to have proved he can manage Gary Neville , self made player , educated under a great Club set up under SAF , a 'winner' , top top top playing CV , has proved to all that he is astute analytically and is excellent at explaining what / why / how A failure at Valencia and brutally honest about the experience , coached at International level Not proved that he can manage at present time ? This is anything but a criticism of your post or view , anything but , as I said it's a strong case But playing devils advocate ........ Who has the most / better 'experience' ? (Not sure myself ! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 I 'M available not played any of the computer games but should be able to put 11 players on the pitch willing to talk to the ref too see if I can put a twelve on the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 hour ago, tinman85 said: No no no. We want proven experience. Fed up with taking rubbish from the lower leagues. We might as well support Yeovil! Need to start having an ambitious mindset across the club. This just sums up the mentality. We always seem to accept second best. Life is about taking risks occasionally and trying to achieve something. Surely recruiting from lower leagues could be defined as taking a risk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 20 minutes ago, bpexile said: How about that guy that played a few games for MU, Ryan................ Ok guys, it was only a tongue in cheek throw away but interesting to see the reaction. We all know champion players don't automatically make top managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeOTIB Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Think it's a more than fair argument It's a strange one though isn't it - Gary Rowett is 'hot' at the moment having had a reasonable career as a player , continued the Burton roll / momentum , did a good / steady job at Brum - Appears to have proved he can manage Gary Neville , self made player , educated under a great Club set up under SAF , a 'winner' , top top top playing CV , has proved to all that he is astute analytically and is excellent at explaining what / why / how A failure at Valencia and brutally honest about the experience , coached at International level Not proved that he can manage at present time ? This is anything but a criticism of your post or view , anything but , as I said it's a strong case But playing devils advocate ........ Who has the most / better 'experience' ? (Not sure myself ! ) That's the worrying thing. Maby of the better managers (Warnock, Monk etc...) have already been snapped up because other clubs reacted quicker. Unfortunately, if we don't act quickly now, we'll lose our current best option in Gary Rowett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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