Mr Popodopolous Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 13 minutes ago, Monkeh said: They have to know and announce the correct figure or the ground will be closed and liecnse to hold sporting events revoked if 17k was announced then 17k was there Of course they will know the real figure and have that internally, but clubs do seem to count in the announced figures season ticket holders as attending in published figures. Arsenal are a notable example IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Just to give this "poor attendance" some context, when we played Palace on Sky in Feb 2008, we were at the top of the table and the official attendance was also 16k. Presumably the same assumptions about counting all STH applied then too. That we now consider that to be a poor attendance, with the team in a much worse position, shows just how far we've come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: Just to give this "poor attendance" some context, when we played Palace on Sky in Feb 2008, we were at the top of the table and the official attendance was also 16k. Presumably the same assumptions about counting all STH applied then too. That we now consider that to be a poor attendance, with the team in a much worse position, shows just how far we've come. Agreed. All the more reason to put on a good show and keep them coming back! Which we've been doing too infrequently this season, and is one of the reasons why people were suggesting that voting with their feet was a way of expressing discontent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 1 hour ago, eardun said: Agree. And whatever the number, the atmosphere was great! the result might have had something to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atyeo's Love Child Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Hope our super fans who missed it through their protest, also didn't see it on TV... They should perhaps follow whoever is doing best in the premier league! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 54 minutes ago, Red Exile said: I don't think that's correct. Happy to be proved wrong of course. I think part of it is the ground now holds about 7000 more than we had got used to, so it looks a lot less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 47 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Of course they will know the real figure and have that internally, but clubs do seem to count in the announced figures season ticket holders as attending in published figures. Arsenal are a notable example IIRC. yes there is nowhere near 60,000 at most of the games I see on tv yet that's what figure you see in the paper next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 I reckon it was about 15000. Not as low as 12000. The crowd was really supportive of the team and the atmosphere was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Robbored said: So nothing to do with game being live on Sky and many fans decided to watch the game in the pub and clubs then? Add to that a wet and miserable night and you have good reasons for a relatively low attendance. The proof that fans are voting with their feet is absolute nonsense. In my opinion more people didn't attend because of the current 'situation' the club finds itself in than a bit of rain. It's not like there was a blizzard and four feet of snow And why would you watch the game on Sky if you had a ST? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 15 minutes ago, Atyeo's Love Child said: Hope our super fans who missed it through their protest, also didn't see it on TV... They should perhaps follow whoever is doing best in the premier league! Seems you're equating the protest with some sort of glory hunting. I think you misunderstand the intention of those who protest; it's to demonstrate their dissatisfaction with the current regime and to try to force change. That statement still holds true even if they do then watch the game on TV. Nothing to do with glory hunting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Official crowd, just under 17k, predictions of around 13k on here, I understand that some season ticket holders may be staying away, but it surely cant be as many as 4000??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 1 minute ago, ChippenhamRed said: Seems you're equating the protest with some sort of glory hunting. I think you misunderstand the intention of those who protest; it's to demonstrate their dissatisfaction with the current regime and to try to force change. That statement still holds true even if they do then watch the game on TV. Nothing to do with glory hunting. Correct. Though for the record I didn't bother watching on TV! Shame it's come to this but I'm a principled kind of person so I won't be returning until the mismanagement of the club improves quite significantly. My views on SL/LJ still haven't changed though I will accept that (at this early stage) the removal of JP and replacement with JMc seems to have changed something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Correct. Though for the record I didn't bother watching on TV! Shame it's come to this but I'm a principled kind of person so I won't be returning until the mismanagement of the club improves quite significantly. My views on SL/LJ still haven't changed though I will accept that (at this early stage) the removal of JP and replacement with JMc seems to have changed something... I'd ignore the "super fans" who'll be eternally grateful for whatever is served up. I admire your efforts to make a visible protest against what has been a travesty of a season. But having also missed last night's game I'm perfectly happy to accept that if LJ, having turned dreams to ashes for 5 months, has suddenly stumbled upon the formula to turn base metals into gold I'll have to swallow my reservations and head down to see it for myself. That said...it's only one result... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 26 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: And why would you watch the game on Sky if you had a ST? To hear what the pundits views are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 17 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: In my opinion more people didn't attend because of the current 'situation' the club finds itself in than a bit of rain. It's not like there was a blizzard and four feet of snow And why would you watch the game on Sky if you had a ST? You may be right but you simlpy have no idea how many didn't attend and for what reasons. I know two people who didn't go becasue it was easier to watch the game on sky - I'm sure if we were playing good football they would have made the effort to come, so you might put this down to the 'situation' if it suits your agenda. Me, I just enjoyed the best home game of the season in person, and I watched it back on sky the minute I got home. If you weren't there you missed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Robbored said: To hear what the pundits views are? Of course, that makes perfect sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Love the team, but hate the way the club is being run! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 There is no reason to equate the attendance last night to supporter dissatisfaction. There will be a lot in the same boat as me who were unable to attend due to work or travel, there will be those who choose to save their money and watch it at home and at the pub and the poor weather conditions would not have helped in that regard. The attendances have been a little lower towards the end of the bad run, but to suggest that people then stayed away after we hadn't lost for 3 games seems a bit of straw clutching to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 So Aizoon is saying the attendance is fabricated by the club? O.K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: And why would you watch the game on Sky if you had a ST? Some ST holders - me included - don't live in Bristol any more and so evening matches are harder to get to than Saturday matches. Some of them may have watched on TV. I made it to the match though and I'm glad I did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 2 hours ago, pillred said: the result might have had something to do with it. Agreed although the crowd seemed more up for it even before we scored. As was the team; as usual, hard to tell whether we got the team going or vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Friday night games are always pretty good IMO. This helped, end of week, people quite happy. One of best or most memorable was Millwall 2001. 16 years ago yesterday near enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 5 hours ago, Aizoon said: Not so. Attendance figures as announced are total fantasy. Hardly "total fantasy". They are announced as the amount of tickets sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Hardly "total fantasy". They are announced as the amount of tickets sold. Yes but apparently Bristol Sport make these up for "propaganda" purposes! ^genuine accusation from someone, that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 18 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Yes but apparently Bristol Sport make these up for "propaganda" purposes! ^genuine accusation from someone, that. Have to say that I've not seen anyone argue that. The reality is that all clubs use the highest possible figure because obviously it puts the best possible gloss on their popularity and has commercial benefits. And supporters groups unhappy with the way their clubs are being run highlight the discrepancy between the published figure and the number of people actually attending. Google it and you'll find stories from Blackpool, Bolton, Villa, Arsenal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 5 hours ago, Aizoon said: I would guess about 13K. Sky didn't mention it for the obvious reason, but you could see the bald patches all around the ground. Not quite one man and his hedgehog, but very thin... I know there's been talk of having a singing section but I hadn't realised we had earmarked sections of the ground for fans who are follically challenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 As Bob Dylan used to sing " You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows". It was obvious before the match that the attendance would be low. Fewer people walking through the park to the game and not many in the concourses. Actual attendees probably only equaled 14k ish with the only accurate figure the number of away fans. I can't imagine many Huddersfield fans would have bought tickets and then stayed at home. Bad weather and Sky TV was obviously a factor, but supporter dissatisfaction with recent performances and the way the club is being run must have played a part. I went, but before the match I was thinking why bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Red Exile said: Have to say that I've not seen anyone argue that. The reality is that all clubs use the highest possible figure because obviously it puts the best possible gloss on their popularity and has commercial benefits. And supporters groups unhappy with the way their clubs are being run highlight the discrepancy between the published figure and the number of people actually attending. Google it and you'll find stories from Blackpool, Bolton, Villa, Arsenal... But, yes, what you have said is the actual case of what happens, the propaganda claim is just a silly claim. (Genuinely agree, that reads as a bit sarcastic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: I don't think that thread suggests that the figures are "made up". Clubs understandably use the ticket sales figures because they are higher than the number of people at the game...and I guess you could argue that was "propaganda"...I wouldn't myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Red Exile said: I don't think that thread suggests that the figures are "made up". Clubs understandably use the ticket sales figures because they are higher than the number of people at the game...and I guess you could argue that was "propaganda"...I wouldn't myself. I agree, dont think it is propaganda at all, I agree with what you are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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