RaspberryRed Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 40 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: So it's untrue that he refused to play, Johnson was lying? Essentially yes. He was told he wouldn't play until he signed said offered contract. He unsurprising responded badly to that bribery and the rest is history. This wasn't intended as an anti LJ post but he does have form for an untruth does he not? Take the Pembo exit story debacle as a starter for 10. It's been too good a day to concentrate on further negatives so Onwards & Upwards COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 So much hate in football. I like the banter between fans/players etc but I also recognise that Freeman was a key player in one of the most enjoyable seasons I've seen city be involved in. Really don't get why anyone would get too upset about this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaspberryRed Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 1 hour ago, petehinton said: Freeman refused to play against Burnley because his medical was done and fee all but agreed with QPR. Would've cup tied him too as it was an FA Cup game. Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keflav Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 Freeman was useless today as he had been for a while for city, was glad when he left... the funniest thing he did today was falling over when getting the ball when it went out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishponds_Red Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Spoons said: Interviews from who LJ? Because he never once says that he refused to play for the club. LJ did say many times he's not playing a player uncommitted to the cause, which is very different than refusing to play ! Im done for tonight with you because you've hit my buttons and I'm wound up by your naivety. Being 'uncommitted' is just as bad as refusing to play when you are a Bristol City player and Steve Landsdown is paying your wages for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 38 minutes ago, RaspberryRed said: Essentially yes. He was told he wouldn't play until he signed said offered contract. He unsurprising responded badly to that bribery and the rest is history. This wasn't intended as an anti LJ post but he does have form for an untruth does he not? Take the Pembo exit story debacle as a starter for 10. It's been too good a day to concentrate on further negatives so Onwards & Upwards COYR Oh well. What matters was that today he did what he did for the last two years in a City shirt. **** all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 34 minutes ago, Alex_BCFC said: So much hate in football. I like the banter between fans/players etc but I also recognise that Freeman was a key player in one of the most enjoyable seasons I've seen city be involved in. Really don't get why anyone would get too upset about this... Couldn't agree more. These people who get self righteous about things like this, are no doubt the same people who, if they saw him out and about wouldnt say a word to him, just text their mates saying 'OMG just seen Luke Freeman!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 During the 90 minutes don't make him feel comfortable as he's playing for the other team Before / after can be the time he is shown the warmth if there is any Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaspberryRed Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Oh well. What matters was that today he did what he did for the last two years in a City shirt. **** all. Wow so humble. You slate someone using incorrect FACTS as ammo then when corrected rather swallow that you petulantly slate him for something else. Embarrassing ''See Ya'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 24 minutes ago, Fishponds_Red said: Being 'uncommitted' is just as bad as refusing to play when you are a Bristol City player and Steve Landsdown is paying your wages for me. Have you never been in a job and lost your mojo and need a fresh start somewhere? Difference is LJ made the decision for freeman as he made it clear he wasn't playing until he signed a new contract. That wasn't going to happen as Luke made it clear a move home to London to a decent club and nearer family etc is what he wanted . That's just refreshing and honest to hear from a modern day pro. LJ spun the whole he refused to play thing, not once did those words actually come out of LJ mouth though! Anyway it's late and I'm halfway through my bottle of southern comfort do must go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 Haven't read all the threads so no idea what's been said but fair play to him at the end hugging all his ex teammates, and I clapped him off for showing his usual Championship performance........... Shyte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 5 hours ago, bh_red said: Pathetic comments from many of you with very short memories. A player who despite being under contract the head coach refused to select unless he extend his contact and was publically outed by the Head Coach Then once he had completed a Medical with another club the manager publically outs him again for refusing to play and risking his transfer. key part of the double winners, thought he was one of their best players. Will always get respect from me. great comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 8 hours ago, RaspberryRed said: Wow so humble. You slate someone using incorrect FACTS as ammo then when corrected rather swallow that you petulantly slate him for something else. Embarrassing ''See Ya'' So Johnson was libellous in the press about Freeman yet he happily shook his hand today. Odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaspberryRed Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: So Johnson was libellous in the press about Freeman yet he happily shook his hand today. Odd. Pose/Frame the the question anyway you choose as it's been answered over and over again during this thread by me and numerous others You seem to have your fingers in your ears tantraming cos you don't like/get the answer you want I've answered it at least 3 times now. I'm out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 Just now, RaspberryRed said: Pose/Frame the the question anyway you choose as it's been answered over and over again during this thread by me and numerous others You seem to have your fingers in your ears tantraming cos you don't like/get the answer you want I've answered it at least 3 times now. I'm out Tantruming? Behave. What answer is it you think I'm seeking? I think it's inexcusable for a footballer player to refuse to play for their club, that's all, no matter what's going on between player and manager, you're still an employee of the club until you've signed for another. And that's the reason he didn't get a good reception from many. I find it odd that if Johnson was the big baddie that you say he was, Freeman was more than happy to shake his hand and speak to him after the game. Many - myself included - were happy to see him go after two years of delivering nothing at this level and it was good for us that yesterday was no exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 9 hours ago, RaspberryRed said: Essentially yes. He was told he wouldn't play until he signed said offered contract. He unsurprising responded badly to that bribery and the rest is history. This wasn't intended as an anti LJ post but he does have form for an untruth does he not? Take the Pembo exit story debacle as a starter for 10. It's been too good a day to concentrate on further negatives so Onwards & Upwards COYR I would be inclined to do what LJ did. Why pick a player who isn't committed to the club? We don't seem to be missing him in any event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh_red Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 10 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: There's plenty of evidence by way of interviews from January. You keep on ignoring what happened though... Link? Evidence? None.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh_red Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 13 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Tantruming? Behave. What answer is it you think I'm seeking? I think it's inexcusable for a footballer player to refuse to play for their club, that's all, no matter what's going on between player and manager, you're still an employee of the club until you've signed for another. And that's the reason he didn't get a good reception from many. I find it odd that if Johnson was the big baddie that you say he was, Freeman was more than happy to shake his hand and speak to him after the game. Many - myself included - were happy to see him go after two years of delivering nothing at this level and it was good for us that yesterday was no exception. For me Luke Freeman is currently favourite to win goal of the season. But hey, some love to throw around the 'done nothing for 2 years stick' again utter rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 Just now, bh_red said: For me Luke Freeman is currently favourite to win goal of the season. But hey, some love to throw around the 'done nothing for 2 years stick' again utter rubbish And how many goals did he score for us in those 2 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmycolour Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 12 hours ago, Flint says No said: They didn't refuse to play that was Johnson's decision... He told Johnson he didn't want to play. That's what LJ said in his interview after the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 16 minutes ago, bh_red said: For me Luke Freeman is currently favourite to win goal of the season. But hey, some love to throw around the 'done nothing for 2 years stick' again utter rubbish How is it rubbish? His goals and assist level over almost two seasons in the championship with us was woeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 13 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: They both refused to play. Kodjia refused against Scunthorpe, Freeman against Burnley. Wrong Neither refused to play Both said they'd prefer not / Heads weren't right But neither refused to play A whole lot of incorrect claims on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Wrong Neither refused to play Both said they'd prefer not / Heads weren't right But neither refused to play A whole lot of incorrect claims on here Saying my head's not right is refusing to play, if you think about it. It hardly gives the manager much choice. Gaffer, my head's not right. Is it alright if i don't give it all today? uh, no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 Just now, AppyDAZE said: Saying my head's not right is refusing to play, if you think about it. It hardly gives the manager much choice. A difficult one and understand what you are saying but it's still not 'refusing to play' which many have stated as a fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 Just now, BobBobSuperBob said: A difficult one and understand what you are saying but it's still not 'refusing to play' which many have stated as a fact Would you play someone that said I'd rather not play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 Just now, AppyDAZE said: Would you play someone that said I'd rather not play? And would you as the manager, stand up in a court for example , and state they 'refused to play' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 Don't blame Freeman so much, because he was in and out of the side and was a part of that wonderful promotion team. Kodjis used us as a stepping stone. Which is ok too. But i wouldnt clap him for that reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 Just now, BobBobSuperBob said: And would you as the manager, stand up in a court for example , and state they 'refused to play' A bit over dramatic there, Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 Just now, AppyDAZE said: A bit over dramatic there, Bob No - just trying to point out there IS a difference And the 'refused to play' has been banded freely about as a fact And it's incorrect Theres been a few spells in this season when most of them have been picked but didn't bother to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 14 hours ago, redmycolour said: I booed so what.he said he didn't want to play for us.ask to be left out. And you're correct. He was a brilliant player for us but that was over two seasons ago in League 1. We're flying to the moon now! I actually thought he did well also early on in our first season back. He's a professional footballer and was under contract with us. I bet he had no qualms about picking up his wages after refusing to play. So all respect for him went out of the window at that point. As far as I am concerned I want my team to win and if that means putting him off then so be it. Fans opinions differ but he could've handled the situation a lot better. He is by no means the worst. Yesterday he had some neat touches, broke & played a lovely ball through once but overall flattered to deceive. A bit like his career here. When they appoint yet another manager he'll be chip paper and end up at Gillingham most likely. Pack was head and shoulders above him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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