formerly known as ivan Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Going by what we could see on the tv last light, Bryan was up against officially the best player in the league and didn't give him a sniff all game. So, how do you get Bryan to perform consistently well throughout a season? Left back was certainly an area I thought we needed to strengthen over the summer but their would be no need to if he can play like he has over the last month or so. Problem is that I just get the feeling 10 games into next season we will be asking ourselves why we never got a new left back as Bryan looks out of his depth again! So what's the answer? New left back anyway? Or put the focus into make my sure Bryan performs week in week out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between heaven and hell Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 The answer to the above is simple make it known to the players that we are live on sky every week . We will be champions by Christmas and will win both cups. Happy days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 I would say that playing in that position consistently and now having a coach who was a left back will make him a better player in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Perhaps not a coincidence that his best performances at LB this season have been with JP in front of him? They make an effective left sided pairing both in defence and attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 87 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 I think he's a big confidence player, when it's working he is brilliant, but when things at going wrong he goes into a shell and makes bad decisions. This is an area he needs to work on and I would expect that Jamie Mac is having a positive influence here. A solid LB at championship level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 "Competitive sports are played mainly on a five and a half inch court, the space between your ears" Bobby Jones. This is the final piece in the "jigsaw" for Joe, he has everything else to be a Championship player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cloud Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 I think it's down to the fact that he's seen so many players come in on better deals, he's just after an improved contract. Can't blame him in a way but the way he's gone about it has been pretty disgusting, rather than showing how he deserves one it's been a case of, I won't play until I get a better one just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Just now, Nube Rojo said: I think it's down to the fact that he's seen so many players come in on better deals, he's just after an improved contract. Can't blame him in a way but the way he's gone about it has been pretty disgusting, rather than showing how he deserves one it's been a case of, I won't play until I get a better one just my opinion Is this on the right thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, Nube Rojo said: I think it's down to the fact that he's seen so many players come in on better deals, he's just after an improved contract. Can't blame him in a way but the way he's gone about it has been pretty disgusting, rather than showing how he deserves one it's been a case of, I won't play until I get a better one just my opinion Eh? Did you get KO'd by AJ last night as well? Fail to see why you've put this here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 12 minutes ago, Nube Rojo said: I think it's down to the fact that he's seen so many players come in on better deals, he's just after an improved contract. Can't blame him in a way but the way he's gone about it has been pretty disgusting, rather than showing how he deserves one it's been a case of, I won't play until I get a better one just my opinion Bizarre post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 It's noticeable that both full backs have been 100% improved by the change of system to 442, with players in front of them that are mobile and put in a shift offensively AND defensively. This, I think is the reason Little and Bryan have looked so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM88 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Rossi the Robin said: Bizarre post May be bizzare, but.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 1 minute ago, JasonM88 said: May be bizzare, but.... But what? He has been playing badly because he thinks he deserves a new contract? Personally I don't think he has performed that poorly anyway, also he is a bright guy and would know that's the wrong way to go about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockneydave Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 2 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said: Going by what we could see on the tv last light, Bryan was up against officially the best player in the league and didn't give him a sniff all game. So, how do you get Bryan to perform consistently well throughout a season? Left back was certainly an area I thought we needed to strengthen over the summer but their would be no need to if he can play like he has over the last month or so. Problem is that I just get the feeling 10 games into next season we will be asking ourselves why we never got a new left back as Bryan looks out of his depth again! So what's the answer? New left back anyway? Or put the focus into make my sure Bryan performs week in week out? Stop bloody moaning about him when he is off form for a start!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted April 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, cockneydave said: Stop bloody moaning about him when he is off form for a start!!! There's off form and there is playing utter shit which he has done for most the season! Fans have every right to moan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Joe Bryan needs to realise he's droppable. At the minute he's first/ second name on team sheet every week and with no stif competition to keep him on his toes. He definatly needed dropping two months back if anything just to rest him and give him the kick up the arse he needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Perhaps he will now be allowed to settle into playing left back. Not one week left back, the next left wing, and then centre midfield. He was one of the players that was definitely affected by not keeping a settled side imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Seem him have some shocking games this season not the only one! But he was superb yesterday as were all the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Port Said Red said: I would say that playing in that position consistently and now having a coach who was a left back will make him a better player in that position. Bryan has far more ability than McAllister ever had. He was a very average LB. I doubt he could teach Bryan anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM88 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Just now, Robbored said: Bryan has far more ability than McAllister ever had. He was a very average LB. I doubt he could teach Bryan anything. Basic positioning and understanding of the role. Where to be and when to be there. They were things that Bryan was struggling with, which you'd expect McAllister to be expert at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Robbored said: Bryan has far more ability than McAllister ever had. He was a very average LB. I doubt he could teach Bryan anything. You dont have to be a good player to be a good coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Just now, JasonM88 said: Basic positioning and understanding of the role. Where to be and when to be there. They were things that Bryan was struggling with, which you'd expect McAllister to be expert at. Come on! Bryan has enough experience already to know basics of the LB role. He's played at wing back ffs. That's a position Macca never played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, Robbored said: Bryan has far more ability than McAllister ever had. He was a very average LB. I doubt he could teach Bryan anything. Wenger was a poor defensive midfielder but he taught Henry, Viera, Pires all a thing or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Just now, Maltshoveller said: You dont have to be a good player to be a good coach That I agree with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Just now, Selred said: Wenger was a poor defensive midfielder but he taught Henry, Viera, Pires all a thing or two. Those guys had surplus of natural talent and we're all international footballers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Robbored said: Those guys had surplus of natural talent and we're all international footballers. I'm not. Never had the call up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 If we're serious about the whole 'pathway' stuff for young players, and LJ/the coaching staff want Bryan to be a left back, then I'd say just bring Lloyd Dyer into the squad as back-up, and we'll work from there. We all know Mags has played there before, so in the worst case scenario I guess we could play him there, but we apparently have this great talent waiting in the wings, so why to give him a shot? Look at Ryan Sessegnon at Fulham; blood 'em young or let 'em go - Bryan himself is proof of that working. If we need more experience come January, loan out Dyer and bring in some cover. Sounds a bit basic, I realise, but surely the likes of Brownhill and O'Dowda are examples of giving younger players a shot to prove themselves being a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamski Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Sick of the stick Joe gets, he's young and developing. Off days and on days. More on than off, during the awful run our defence was hammered, Flint looked more panel beater than world beater at times this season, after last night everyone claiming he's off to the Prem, we are a work in progress, lucky not to have blown up, but doing okay at the present! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Mao Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, adamski said: Sick of the stick Joe gets, he's young and developing. Off days and on days. More on than off, during the awful run our defence was hammered, Flint looked more panel beater than world beater at times this season, after last night everyone claiming he's off to the Prem, we are a work in progress, lucky not to have blown up, but doing okay at the present! He's played nearly 150 games now? He seems to be at his best in the warm weather, maybe he needs to move to Spain. Also, still don't think he's a left back, he's a box to box midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 24 minutes ago, samo II said: If we're serious about the whole 'pathway' stuff for young players, and LJ/the coaching staff want Bryan to be a left back, then I'd say just bring Lloyd Dyer into the squad as back-up, and we'll work from there. We all know Mags has played there before, so in the worst case scenario I guess we could play him there, but we apparently have this great talent waiting in the wings, so why to give him a shot? Look at Ryan Sessegnon at Fulham; blood 'em young or let 'em go - Bryan himself is proof of that working. If we need more experience come January, loan out Dyer and bring in some cover. Sounds a bit basic, I realise, but surely the likes of Brownhill and O'Dowda are examples of giving younger players a shot to prove themselves being a good idea. Think it is Lloyd Kelly. Dyer was the one who missed the sitter on the line for Burton at the gate a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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