Mr Popodopolous Posted August 17, 2017 Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 58 minutes ago, Robbored said: No they're not and seemingly unable to offer any serious challenge to England. Leaderless as well. Its a sorry state of affairs. Yup. Been in sharp decline since at least 2007. They can still put up useful resistance at home v most sides but beyond that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 10 hours ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: That's me That is, in fact, Bradfield. A minor claim to fame as I have played there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bianconeri Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Did Alison Mitchell refer to a hand job on TMS in the first over after lunch today (Friday)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Bianconeri said: Did Alison Mitchell refer to a hand job on TMS in the first over after lunch today (Friday)? She is a bit of a minx when she`s commentating, especially if she`s got Ebony R-B with her. I reckon it would be a fun night out with them two! Is it just me or is there something vaguely erotic hearing a woman speaking knowledgeably about cricket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 19 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: Is it just me or is there something vaguely erotic hearing a woman speaking knowledgeably about cricket? It's just you! In boxing the Ref can stop the fight "to avoid further punishment" if required. Pity the Umpires can't award this game to England now on Day Three. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Rocker Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Tomarse said: So poor it's not even enjoyable really. I was just saying the same thing. Nonetheless I am enjoying this evening session as otherwise it would have been a fairly miserable Saturday of sport. And Broad has acquired legend status this evening, which is nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotham Brow Red Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Utterly pathetic. Probably going to be a 3 dayer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 At Edgbaston under lights the pink ball is behaving differently to a red or white ball would in the same conditions. My question is - why if only the colour is different do they vary so much? Surely any cricket ball of the same make should react the same regardless the colour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Rocker Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 All over already. Ah shit, that can only mean one thing. Time for Football on Five Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 45 minutes ago, Tomarse said: So poor it's not even enjoyable really. Yeah, it's actually pretty sad to see the Windies in this state. I first remember them touring in 1995 when, though not the force they had been, were still a quality side, had Lara in the prime of his career, top batsmen like Richardson, Hooper, Adams and a young Chanderpaul, plus an attack of Ambrose, Walsh, Bishop and Benjamin. They've got gradually worse on every tour since, culminating in the current shambles. The really damning thing is that they could put a reasonably decent Test side out, but for constant infighting between the board and the big name players. Certainly if you look at their ODI and especially T20 sides, they're still competitive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, Tomarse said: There is no logic to how a ball swings anyway. Scientists say it should swing most when cloudless and sunny - yet we all know that it's cloudy and a touch humid or damp that tends to get it going all over the shop! I presume all balls have to be a certain weight so no idea why a duke is different to a kookaburra etc. So Windies lost 19 wickets today and in total only scored 62 more runs than Cook. I appreciate that there are no definite explanations to how/why a ball will swing or not but surely the colour shouldn't make the slightest difference and yet we saw the pink ball doing all sorts as the lights kicked it. The Sky commentators were as amazed by its antics saying that it must be because it's pink..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Yeah, it's actually pretty sad to see the Windies in this state. I first remember them touring in 1995 when, though not the force they had been, were still a quality side, had Lara in the prime of his career, top batsmen like Richardson, Hooper, Adams and a young Chanderpaul, plus an attack of Ambrose, Walsh, Bishop and Benjamin. They've got gradually worse on every tour since, culminating in the current shambles. The really damning thing is that they could put a reasonably decent Test side out, but for constant infighting between the board and the big name players. Certainly if you look at their ODI and especially T20 sides, they're still competitive. Poor old Curtly was on TMS earlier and he was nearly in tears despairing at it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted August 19, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 The pink ball is different than the red Duke. It has to have a coating on it, so it won't shine on one side like a red ball, which is just dyed. Not being able to shine one side was giving speculation that the ball wouldn't swing, but I think Anderson could make Mary Whitehouse swing........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted August 20, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/258645.html Some theory on swing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 10 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: Poor old Curtly was on TMS earlier and he was nearly in tears despairing at it all. So was Andy Roberts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 9 hours ago, Maesknoll Red said: The pink ball is different than the red Duke. It has to have a coating on it, so it won't shine on one side like a red ball, which is just dyed. Not being able to shine one side was giving speculation that the ball wouldn't swing, but I think Anderson could make Mary Whitehouse swing........ Interesting.........but begs the question as why the leather isn't dyed pink rather than being coated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 Gayle, Bravo, Sammy 3 key players who retired themselves. Chanderpaul was aging so obviously he would have retired anyway. Beyond that, don't seem to have a lot. Even Bangladesh in 2010 put up more than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 15 hours ago, Maesknoll Red said: http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/258645.html Some theory on swing Here's the real explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 On 10/08/2017 at 19:38, Rob k said: I'm in for a tenner and will hope for rain and the draw!! Loser!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 12 hours ago, EmersonsRed said: Loser!!! Hahahaha!!! How bad are WI, I'm not sure I've ever seen such an awful side! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 Woakes in for TRJ today, nice to see him back - feel sorry for Toby though. Done nothing wrong at all. Expecting some rank batting by WI early doors if they bat first... I suspect we will be batting whether we win or lose the toss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 Deary me what a mess we are in with this top order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 The position of Cook's partner is now a poisoned chalice and the pressure is mounting on every new batsman. Post Ashes the ECB need to pick a young batsman, probably Hameed, and tell him he will be Cooks partner through to the 2019 series, no matter how his form is. That takes the pressure to succeed straight away off him and may allow him to play freely. The same may have to be done at three as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 36 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: The position of Cook's partner is now a poisoned chalice and the pressure is mounting on every new batsman. Post Ashes the ECB need to pick a young batsman, probably Hameed, and tell him he will be Cooks partner through to the 2019 series, no matter how his form is. That takes the pressure to succeed straight away off him and may allow him to play freely. The same may have to be done at three as well. Not a chance you can go to Brisbane with Stoneman and Westley playing. Hameed does seem the natural choice to open, have no idea who will bat 3 unless you move Root up but then you need a number 4! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 Never seen a test match held up for this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 Superb this from Stokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 Reminiscing about a first 6 of Strauss, Cook, Vaughan, Bell, Collingwood and KP. Such great test batsmen that we really need right now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: Reminiscing about a first 6 of Strauss, Cook, Vaughan, Bell, Collingwood and KP. Such great test batsmen that we really need right now We do still have Cook Root and Stokes though so not bad. Shame Abell has been in such poor form this season every chance he would be in the team now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 (edited) If Hameed hadn't started the season so badly he'd have been in from the start. Still think he'll go to Australia. The irony is that he hadn't actually done anything wrong in an England shirt, and if he'd been a more senior, established member of the side his poor county form would have been ignored, same as it would for Cook, Root etc. Edited August 25, 2017 by Northern Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 TRJ must be seething he was dropped... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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