International Cricket

[Super]

Now raining

[Lew-T]

1 minute ago, Super said:

1pm start

Great news.

Although with such a wet outfield and the ball not doing too much. I fear it will be pretty comfortable to bat it out and get a lead.

That with more bad weather on the way! All the odds are against us.

[Open End Numb Legs]

Forecast feels like the Aussie lager will soon be placed in the fridge.....

[ChippenhamRed]

Seems I’m not the only one who thinks just letting the weather win is a problem for such a high profile sporting event.

Good debate here.

 

[Lrrr]

1 hour ago, ChippenhamRed said:

Seems I’m not the only one who thinks just letting the weather win is a problem for such a high profile sporting event.

Good debate here.

 

Umpires get the light meters out early enough anyway, days should start earlier

Edited July 23, 2023 by Lrrr

[Super]

Expect an announcement will come soon. Sad end but these things happen still a good chance to square the series.

[slartibartfast]

2 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said:

Seems I’m not the only one who thinks just letting the weather win is a problem for such a high profile sporting event.

Good debate here.

 

I was there at "midnight" in 1971  (for those who remember )

[Fordy62]

I must admit, the whole low light thing confused me yesterday. Don’t we play nighttime matches under floodlights?

[Mr Hankey]

Not sure if i will ever forgive Ollie Robinson’s bowling in the first test against Lyon & Cummins after this…..such a shite way for it to end

[Northern Red]

22 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

I must admit, the whole low light thing confused me yesterday. Don’t we play nighttime matches under floodlights?

With a different colour ball.

[Mr Hankey]

1 hour ago, Lrrr said:

Umpires get the light meters out early enough anyway, days should start earlier

Yet they let Boland terrorise our batters in Edgbaston when the light was awful and it was raining, umpires seem immune from criticism in cricket, but more consistency is very much needed.

[Dolman_Stand]

I blame The Hundred, the fact we've had to fit the entire Test Summer in before the end of July to allow a format of cricket that nobody else even plays is ridiculous. It meant no meaningful warmup series could be arranged and we end up going into the biggest series we play in undercooked

[The Gasbuster]

Shit.

Bloody weather, lucky Aussies.

[ChippenhamRed]

This is an incredibly underwhelming and unsatisfactory way to settle The Ashes. I knowing I’m banging on about it, but I just think test cricket could and should do more to avoid situations like this.

[Northern Red]

 

[Lew-T]

So frustrating. What a shame to end this way!

 

[ralphindevon]

If we win comfortably at the Oval it will feel a travesty not getting our hands on the urn.

I haven’t looked back at each day but it certainly feels like we’ve already won as many if not more days than them.

A win next week and it’s a draw, we’ve drawn the ashes, I don’t care where the urn is. 

[ChippenhamRed]

10 minutes ago, ralphindevon said:

If we win comfortably at the Oval it will feel a travesty not getting our hands on the urn.

I haven’t looked back at each day but it certainly feels like we’ve already won as many if not more days than them.

A win next week and it’s a draw, we’ve drawn the ashes, I don’t care where the urn is. 

I think if we win next week and draw the series from 2-0 down, whilst also being very unlucky not to win 3-2…then it’s going be a very odd spectacle watching the Aussies lift the urn. I’m not sure how they could really celebrate that.

[Kid in the Riot]

Only got ourselves to blame tbf. I feel like the majority of luck in the series went England's way, but we didn't capitalise on it. 

I bet the Aussies can't quite believe they've retained the Ashes with a Test to spare based on how they've played. 

[Rob k]

4 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Only got ourselves to blame tbf. I feel like the majority of luck in the series went England's way, but we didn't capitalise on it. 

I bet the Aussies can't quite believe they've retained the Ashes with a Test to spare based on how they've played. 

Spot on - We absolutely do only have ourselves to blame as IMO, we have been the better side and we gifted them a 2-0 headstart 

[wayne allisons tongues]

Only ourselves to blame with our slow over rate. Aussies weren’t much better with their rate. 
 

Just don’t understand why teams aren’t penalised for slow over rates more severely and why there is a cut off point each day and teams can’t bowl there overs to completion each day. Supporters aren’t getting what they paid for.

[Kid in the Riot]

10 minutes ago, wayne allisons tongues said:

Only ourselves to blame with our slow over rate. Aussies weren’t much better with their rate. 

We didn't fail to regain the Ashes because of a slow over rate. Try: lack of a specialist wicky, hair-brained batting after Lyon got injured, and declaring on the first day when Root was smashing them all around the park, for starters. 

[And Its Smith]

Majority of luck has gone our way this series with playing conditions. The rain saved them today. That’s cricket. 

[wayne allisons tongues]

1 minute ago, Kid in the Riot said:

We didn't fail to regain the Ashes because of a slow over rate. Try: lack of a specialist wicky, hair-brained batting after Lyon got injured, and declaring on the first day when Root was smashing them all around the park, for starters. 

The slow over rate in this test means that after the 3rd day there had been 30 overs less than should have been bowled in total. That is a whole session of cricket lost, we only bowled 30 overs Saturday due to having to use the spinners due to the light.

It is one reason why we didn’t win this test and needs looking at by the authorities for supporters aren’t get there monies worth at matches.

[ChippenhamRed]

56 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Only got ourselves to blame tbf. I feel like the majority of luck in the series went England's way, but we didn't capitalise on it. 

I bet the Aussies can't quite believe they've retained the Ashes with a Test to spare based on how they've played. 

Yep, I can’t argue with that.

[Fordy62]

Here we are and my overriding feeling if the series is one of disappointment in Pat Cummins. I’ve grown up admiring how good the Aussies are and my hero is an Aussie - the greatest to ever play the game.

Yet I just cannot fathom out that decision to uphold the appeal after Carey’s clever work. There’s no way on earth any of the Aussie captains of days gone by would’ve stood by that. And i genuinely think deep down that not all of their dressing room will have been on board with it. 

[Markthehorn]

1 hour ago, Fordy62 said:

Here we are and my overriding feeling if the series is one of disappointment in Pat Cummins. I’ve grown up admiring how good the Aussies are and my hero is an Aussie - the greatest to ever play the game.

Yet I just cannot fathom out that decision to uphold the appeal after Carey’s clever work. There’s no way on earth any of the Aussie captains of days gone by would’ve stood by that. And i genuinely think deep down that not all of their dressing room will have been on board with it. 

I reckon a few would still make the same call  ( Steve Smith for example and think Ponting was ok with it I’d we don’t count current players ) but everyone is different.

Shame we lost two days basically- must be very unusual nowadays.

Lets hope we manage to get the draw at the Oval as think we deserve that .

[Lrrr]

3 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said:

We didn't fail to regain the Ashes because of a slow over rate. Try: lack of a specialist wicky, hair-brained batting after Lyon got injured, and declaring on the first day when Root was smashing them all around the park, for starters. 

I still have no objection to the declaration in the first test, it was the batting in the second innings that threw it away, you play sensibly and even another 50 runs probably sees us home given it was already a situation that England statistically should have won like 8/10 times after they were 8 down 

[PHILINFRANCE]

8 hours ago, slartibartfast said:

I was there at "midnight" in 1971  (for those who remember )

Are you referring to the Mike Proctor match in what was then The Gillette Cup?

Or had it become the B&H Cup already?

Whatever, if it was that match, I remember watching it on TV, presumably BBC2.

[slartibartfast]

9 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

Are you referring to the Mike Proctor match in what was then The Gillette Cup?

Or had it become the B&H Cup already?

Whatever, if it was that match, I remember watching it on TV, presumably BBC2.

Yes the Gillette cup ,60 overs, the B&H was 55 overs and came a bit later .