wendyredredrobin Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 So after the boring experience of watching paint dry during the Malta game (other than the last 10 mins), Anyone looking forward to Slovakia tonight. Gareth Southgate has apparently told his team to play more exciting football, so that should make a difference. Can't really understand why he felt the need to be so cautious against Malta, but tonight will be a different type of challenge, but we can easily beat them with an attacking set up, though a cautious approach will likely lead to a dull 0 - 0 outcome.
BRISTOL86 Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 It's set up to be an interesting game. The excuse that always gets trotted out in defence of the English team after games like Malta, is that it's very difficult to break down a team that supposedly don't want to play football and just want to not concede. Slovakia have an enormous opportunity to put themselves into pole position and will surely be intent on winning the game. No excuses tonight for me.
SARJ Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 13 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: So after the boring experience of watching paint dry during the Malta game (other than the last 10 mins), Anyone looking forward to Slovakia tonight. Gareth Southgate has apparently told his team to play more exciting football, so that should make a difference. Can't really understand why he felt the need to be so cautious against Malta, but tonight will be a different type of challenge, but we can easily beat them with an attacking set up, though a cautious approach will likely lead to a dull 0 - 0 outcome. Given up watching England after the Iceland debacle at the Euros. No passion or pride. My old man watched the Malta game and said bar the last few mins it was utterly dreadful. Can't see tonight's game being far different, despite Southgate's promises.
Robbored Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Like all English football fans I'll watch the match tonight even though I know it'll be like watch grass grow. Mr Dull wouldn't know "excitement" if he fell over it.
cityloyal473 Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Lost interest in England years ago, after being a regular home and abroad. Taking my kids tonight though; their first game at Wembley. Cant say I'm overly excited about it to be honest. I expect to be bored to tears.
Robbored Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, shelts said: Yawn Getting in in advance then Shelts..........
shelts Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Robbored said: Getting in in advance then Shelts.......... Got up feeling good . Quick look on the OTIB and saw my Country is playing tonight . Down down down. Off back to bed!!!
And Its Smith Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 If he plays an exciting team then I will watch. Don't see why Rashford, Kane and Alli can't all be picked together. Looking forward to seeing Jack Livermore again! Tom Davies - why can't be play instead? Don't care if he's young.
Nongazeuse Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 I will watch on TV but without too much enthusiasm. Can anyone explain the point of Jordan Henderson? - runs around a lot, passes sideways then always makes wrong decision.
Gazred Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 As bad as we were the other day, France failed to beat Luxembourg at home yesterday, how's that for an underwhelming result. Shouldn't be too hard for England to put in a better performance tonight as they were so poor on Friday.
SARJ Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, Gazred said: As bad as we were the other day, France failed to beat Luxembourg at home yesterday, how's that for an underwhelming result. Shouldn't be too hard for England to put in a better performance tonight as they were so poor on Friday. The players on field reactions was akin to as if they'd lost the world cup finals. I'm a patriotic individual but dare I say it, international games absolutely suck. Bore the pants off of me and it seems many friends both home and abroad feel the same.
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 @SARJ Each to their own, but I've seen a number of quite interesting, intriguing International games. Not many at all involving England which was kinda unfortunate- England-Wales and England-Scotland in the last year or so were decent, but beyond that I agree. At least about a lot of England games. Specifically about England games, most have IMO been very tedious for a number of years now. Tonight could be interesting as Slovakia won't see us as unbeatable and will know that if they can somehow beat us they will probably win the group. Which should make for a more open game than usual! 3-1 England my prediction.
Carey 6 Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Honestly can't stand Southgate. It's like having Roy Hodgson all over again. No real identity to the team mirroring the coaches lack of personality. We really could've had something special with Big Sam, you just get the feeling he understood what it was all about. Next manager for me has to be one of the best in football, just because Capello didn't work it doesn't mean we shouldn't go down that route again. If we stick with English and don't give Sam another chance, I'd honestly go Dyche, what he's done at Burnley is impressive. Still, onto tonights game, England 1-0. Kane.
BlowerBCFC Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Could be worse... you could be off to the game. Think I might have to drink my way through the game
BRISTOL86 Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Job for Cotts? Or 'Arry - it's probably his best shot of getting Flint into his back 4.
Ska Junkie Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Didn't even realise England were playing tonight. I'll probably watch it but I'm more interested in Saturday at the Mad stad TBH.
wendyredredrobin Posted September 4, 2017 Author Posted September 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Job for Cotts? Or 'Arry - it's probably his best shot of getting Flint into his back 4. One way of adding some spark
iamalagerdrinker Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Does this mean Coronation Street isnt on?
Gazred Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 1 hour ago, SARJ said: The players on field reactions was akin to as if they'd lost the world cup finals. I'm a patriotic individual but dare I say it, international games absolutely suck. Bore the pants off of me and it seems many friends both home and abroad feel the same. Englands youth sides are quite refreshing to watch. I think the last time we had side worth bothering with was about 2004 and they only achieved as much as anyone else in the last 50 years. I just follow England with zero expectation these days, easier that way.
wendyredredrobin Posted September 4, 2017 Author Posted September 4, 2017 1 hour ago, iamalagerdrinker said: Does this mean Coronation Street isnt on? Ha ha, no Corrie tonight. Will have to watch something equally boring instead, like England. Hey ho, at least an excuse for a few beers.
Monkeh Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 I've given up watching internatiopnal football outside of a major tourny, there just isn't much point, Its the same boring game every time regardless of who's manager and which ever next big thing is being bigged up in the press waiting for the fall from grace to sell some more copies
wendyredredrobin Posted September 4, 2017 Author Posted September 4, 2017 World cup not major enough then?
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 5 hours ago, Robbored said: Like all English football fans I'll watch the match tonight even though I know it'll be like watch grass grow. Mr Dull wouldn't know "excitement" if he fell over it. Well in that case RR - you need to watch where you step
Phileas Fogg Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 3 hours ago, Carey 6 said: Honestly can't stand Southgate. It's like having Roy Hodgson all over again. No real identity to the team mirroring the coaches lack of personality. We really could've had something special with Big Sam, you just get the feeling he understood what it was all about. Next manager for me has to be one of the best in football, just because Capello didn't work it doesn't mean we shouldn't go down that route again. If we stick with English and don't give Sam another chance, I'd honestly go Dyche, what he's done at Burnley is impressive. Still, onto tonights game, England 1-0. Kane. Reckon we'll go full circle and go for Mourinho eventually. Don't really understand why we went for Southgate. Not achieved much at all to warrant the England post, Tony Pulis even has a far better case! Can't really be bothered with England at the moment. Too many horribly average midfielders - 10-15 years ago we had a fantastic midfield to choose from.. now look. Perhaps in 5 years time we'll have a better side, a few good young players coming through.
Jackson Lamb Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Reckon we'll go full circle and go for Mourinho eventually. Don't really understand why we went for Southgate. Not achieved much at all to warrant the England post, Tony Pulis even has a far better case! Can't really be bothered with England at the moment. Too many horribly average midfielders - 10-15 years ago we had a fantastic midfield to choose from.. now look. Perhaps in 5 years time we'll have a better side, a few good young players coming through. 1. Yes Man 2. We've said this every 5 years since the 70s
shelts Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Breaks my heart that the England team is broken. Let the players express themselves and play without fear. We have the talent in this Country. Southgate a lovely guy but not for me I'm afraid
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 25 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Reckon we'll go full circle and go for Mourinho eventually. Don't really understand why we went for Southgate. Not achieved much at all to warrant the England post, Tony Pulis even has a far better case! Can't really be bothered with England at the moment. Too many horribly average midfielders - 10-15 years ago we had a fantastic midfield to choose from.. now look. Perhaps in 5 years time we'll have a better side, a few good young players coming through. The FA has been unable to do the right thing for decades: cast your mind back to 1977 and we should have gone for Clough. Hell, I reckon an urn of his ashes could pick a squad no worse than our current offering.
WolfOfWestStreet Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 England haven't lost a qualifier for 7 years which is quite remarkable. One thing we are good at is these types of games however we never seem to have a proper plan/system when going into the tournaments. I'm looking forward to the game, it seems to the cool thing right now to be apathetic towards England but we are who we are no point in being gloomy about it!
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: England haven't lost a qualifier for 7 years which is quite remarkable. One thing we are good at is these types of games however we never seem to have a proper plan/system when going into the tournaments. I'm looking forward to the game, it seems to the cool thing right now to be apathetic towards England but we are who we are no point in being gloomy about it! We also last won a finals knock-out game in 2006. Which is equally remarkable.
steviestevieneville Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Another 90 minutes of sending a glass eye to sleep . I used to love England games but the only good thing about the international break now is that most of our squad get a breather .
chinapig Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 3 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: Reckon we'll go full circle and go for Mourinho eventually. Don't really understand why we went for Southgate. Not achieved much at all to warrant the England post, Tony Pulis even has a far better case! Can't really be bothered with England at the moment. Too many horribly average midfielders - 10-15 years ago we had a fantastic midfield to choose from.. now look. Perhaps in 5 years time we'll have a better side, a few good young players coming through. Mourinho has said when he finishes with club football he would like to manage Portugal. Much too high maintenance for the FA.
wendyredredrobin Posted September 4, 2017 Author Posted September 4, 2017 Yeah, the FA aren't keen on tantrums.
RumRed Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 I'll be watching, it gives me something different to moan about.
MC RISK77 Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 I will be watching Northern Ireland...big game for them tonight win guarantees a play off spot. Also they are punching well above their level given the players at their disposal...guarantee it will be a quality atmosphere at Windsor park also
RumRed Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Could be a long night, Bertrand should be on a yellow too.
Ecko Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Brilliant goal, but Hart should be doing better.
Super Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Can see rashford wants to make up for that mistake.
Robbored Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 At least England will have to be more "exciting" now...........
WolfOfWestStreet Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, BA14 RED said: Hahahaha England We've found the closet jock
Super Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 1 minute ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: We've found the closet jock They need us to win!
BRISTOL86 Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 I was being facetious earlier but maybe Cotts could do better with this lot
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 WTF was Rashford doing Trying to run out with the ball just outside our area in 3rd minute of game Then switches off and loses the scorer Idiot
WolfOfWestStreet Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Super said: They need us to win! In that case lets lose
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Just booted up the VPN. Clearly the sense of disappointment put out by Harry Kane after Malta has been channeled to ensure a stronger 1st half tonight. Oh.
Guest Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: I was being facetious earlier but maybe Cotts could do better with this lot Don't pick this lot. Blood and guts will win fans back; show the prima donnas what they are missing.
One BCFC Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: We've found the closet jock Bit of sarcasm in the post but I have been half hearted in supporting England since the Woy days, find the funny side when it goes wrong sometimes.
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Desperate. We suck. In other news, Titanic sinks. More at 11.
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Wait what?? Have Slovakia scored? Saw something on Live scores.com just now.
Red Army 75 Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Gareth Southgate is so far out of his depth. It's embarrassing
Phileas Fogg Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 3 hours ago, Red_Wizard said: 1. Yes Man 2. We've said this every 5 years since the 70s Well kind of, but not as much since 2006. I think from 2010 onwards we've seen ourselves as a quarter final team not a contender. I really thought we could (and perhaps should) have won Euro 2004. Obviously world cups much harder. Since 06 I think we've had a worse crop of players. The age group from 16-21 is genuinely quite exciting - including Abraham.
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Can't seem to get a reliable stream and by the sound of it, I'm glad. Is is so dismal again?
WarksRobin Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Missing: England midfield. If found return to Mr G Southgate. No reward.
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said: Can't seem to get a reliable stream and by the sound of it, I'm glad. Is is so dismal again? Have only been watching since after their goal. We have laboured to a few chances. Not seen the goal, but from the thread comments, sounds like Rashford had a 'mare.
The Bard Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: WTF was Rashford doing Trying to run out with the ball just outside our area in 3rd minute of game Then switches off and loses the scorer Idiot More to the point what was Walker doing vacating his position? If he held his position like any full back knows, he stops the ball through. Simple. He is possibly the most overrated player in World football. A £50 million defender who can't defend properly.
kevinmabbuttshair Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 When Jordan Henderson is capt of England and Gareth Southgate is manager it is time to move on and forget about international football for the foreseeable
steviestevieneville Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: We've found the closet jock I find it funny as well in a way. Over hyped yet again and the reality is we're absolute bollocks. £50m for walker and it's only his pace gets him out of trouble, his positioning for a full back is shocking . How the **** Henderson is a international I'll never know. England=bang ******* average . Bring back the mighty reds and the championship . Club before country
BRISTOL86 Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 When was the last time an England team weren't pretty pathetic? Could it be that no matter who is holding the cloth, you can't polish a turd?
The Bard Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Eric Dier. Never has a player lived up to his name better..
Jackson Lamb Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Well kind of, but not as much since 2006. I think from 2010 onwards we've seen ourselves as a quarter final team not a contender. I really thought we could (and perhaps should) have won Euro 2004. Obviously world cups much harder. Since 06 I think we've had a worse crop of players. The age group from 16-21 is genuinely quite exciting - including Abraham. Problem is people see the strength of the PL in England, and compare that to the England National Team. Unfortunately, there is no correlation showing that a strong PL should then include a strong National side. All the best talent in the PL are overseas as we all know. People need to come to terms that England aren't on par with the likes of Spain, Italy etc. But are more on par with teams like Sweden, Russia, and Croatia. Even the likes of Belgium and Uruguay are better than us.
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, One Team In Keynsham said: Have only been watching since after their goal. We have laboured to a few chances. Not seen the goal, but from the thread comments, sounds like Rashford had a 'mare. It looks like I won't be staying up to 23.45, which is the time the game finishes here.
One BCFC Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: I find it funny as well in a way. Over hyped yet again and the reality is we're absolute bollocks. £50m for walker and it's only his pace gets him out of trouble, his positioning for a full back is shocking . How the **** Henderson is a international I'll never know. England=bang ******* average . Bring back the mighty reds and the championship . Club before country Buzzing to listen to the crying pundits if England lose slamming the team. It's like such a huge surprise when we fail to them, not sure why?
Red Army 75 Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, kevinmabbuttshair said: When Jordan Henderson is capt of England and Gareth Southgate is manager it is time to move on and forget about international football for the foreseeable Absolutely spot on .
The Bard Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 If we are going to get out of this mess, we need to get Vardy on and quick. Someone who will scare the opposition.
BRISTOL86 Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Typical brain dead Oxlade Chamberlain. Does all the hard work and then has all the footballing intelligence of a 5 year old when it comes to the decision.
Jackson Lamb Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Oxlade-Chamberlain proving that £40mil then....
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