Red Army 75 Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 IMO our toughest test so far this season. Expect them to be up there at the end of the season. Do people expect changes . Or stick with a winning side
Phileas Fogg Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 Historically we tend to do badly there. I think we'll make changes - we can afford to now. I expect Wright will replace Flint - rightly or wrongly Wouldn't be surprised to see Leko start and possibly a patched up Pisano.
DownendRed97 Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 Think Pack may come back in, as, basing this purely on the short highlights from channel 5 the reading midfielder (Kelly I believe) was left with far too much room on a few occasions as Brownhill maybe lost his position a few times only due to not being used to the position of late. Can see COD keeping his place to help out with the defensive side of things but also wouldn't be surprised to see Brownhill moved back out wide.
B1ackbird Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 As long as they don't recall Steve Bull (shudder) we should be OK.
Red Army 75 Posted September 10, 2017 Author Posted September 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Historically we tend to do badly there. I think we'll make changes - we can afford to now. I expect Wright will replace Flint - rightly or wrongly Wouldn't be surprised to see Leko start and possibly a patched up Pisano. The Flint Wright dilemma is interesting. Scored the winner. Clean sheet. I personally think Flint will play
Phileas Fogg Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: The Flint Wright dilemma is interesting. Scored the winner. Clean sheet. I personally think Flint will play I'd go with Flint personally but going on LJ's comments about it being Wright's shirt I think he'll come back in. An interesting twist to that would be if we went 352/532. This allows Wright AND Flint and may be something we opt for if Pisano is still injured. LJ also mentioned this formation post-match.
Red Army 75 Posted September 10, 2017 Author Posted September 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: I'd go with Flint personally but going on LJ's comments about it being Wright's shirt I think he'll come back in. An interesting twist to that would be if we went 352/532. This allows Wright AND Flint and may be something we opt for if Pisano is still injured. LJ also mentioned this formation post-match. Good point. But at least we have a squad now to mix it up . Be happy with a point
Robbored Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 I fancy a draw. 1-1 Ream selection will be interested tho. Wright will be back and possibly Pisaro. With Famara seemingly struggling will he lose his place to Leko?
Im_over_ere Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 Put Korey in at RB, Pack in mid and Leiko for Fammy.
Edge1981 Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 14 minutes ago, B1ackbird said: As long as they don't recall Steve Bull (shudder) we should be OK. Or David Kelly!
CliftonCliff Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 15 minutes ago, Edge1981 said: Or David Kelly! Did he play for Wolves? I mainly remember him tormenting us in a Walsall shirt. He must have loved playing against City, the bar steward.
Red Army 75 Posted September 10, 2017 Author Posted September 10, 2017 Andy Mutch and Steve bull I thought
1960maaan Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 26 minutes ago, Edge1981 said: Or David Kelly! 39 minutes ago, B1ackbird said: As long as they don't recall Steve Bull (shudder) we should be OK. 7 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Andy Mutch and Steve bull I thought Everyones right.
CliftonCliff Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, CliftonCliff said: Did he play for Wolves? I mainly remember him tormenting us in a Walsall shirt. He must have loved playing against City, the bar steward. Answering my own question here. Just checked. Did play for Wolves and with his customary success. Had to hand it to him; scored goals wherever he went. Close to 200 in a career spanning 600 games over almost 20 years and many of those at a high level. Fair play to him, but he was a bloody pest as far as we were concerned. I don't think I ever saw him play against us when he didn't score. Now a coach, apparently.
Andy082005 Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 40 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: I'd go with Flint personally but going on LJ's comments about it being Wright's shirt I think he'll come back in. An interesting twist to that would be if we went 352/532. This allows Wright AND Flint and may be something we opt for if Pisano is still injured. LJ also mentioned this formation post-match. What was the comment he made?
Phileas Fogg Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: What was the comment he made? Wouldn't want to misquote so may not be 100% accurate but I believe Flint said Johnson had told him Wright would be back on Tuesday and that it was Wright's position to lose
Loosey Boy Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 3-5-2 an option I think, based on LJ's comments Bet Leko will be keen to play too - just imagine a Baggie scoring the winner on Tuesday night!!!!
Rossi the Robin Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 I'll be very surprised if we revert to a different formation after just winning with a certain system LJ is trying to integrate
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 How bad is Joe`s injury? Will he be OK for Tuesday?
jimmyb Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 I don't ever remember winning there either so I'll guess at least 40 years ago! Would take a point now if offered.
CliftonCliff Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Rossi the Robin said: I'll be very surprised if we revert to a different formation after just winning with a certain system LJ is trying to integrate Important point - especially considering the flak LJ got for his inconsistency last season in selection and tactics.
Robin101 Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 Would take a draw. That would keep us ticking over and make us 5 unbeaten in all competitions. Solid.
RUSSEL85 Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 I'll take a draw but have a feeling we may nick it. If we can keep a couple of there star players at bay we have the quality to win, in the play offs by Tuesday night.
OldlandReddies Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 Fully expect changes again. Our squad is that deep this season. Wright will be back in and Pack. Leko also looks certain to start and Elliason. Wolves will be tough as always away from home. will take a point now and then turn Derby over Saturday.COYR's
Robbored Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 4 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: Wouldn't want to misquote so may not be 100% accurate but I believe Flint said Johnson had told him Wright would be back on Tuesday and that it was Wright's position to lose That's pretty much what LJ told Flint - according to Flint himself in his post match interview. I can' see why LJ is telling him that.
Davefevs Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 I think Pisano / Vyner's selection will have the biggest influence on the line-up.
GrahamC Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 3 hours ago, tinman85 said: When was our last win at the custard bowl? I was there for the Fonts 1.1. Can't remember a win. We owe them one. 1931! You could say a win was overdue but I'd take a point right now.
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 15 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I think Pisano / Vyner's selection will have the biggest influence on the line-up. I`ve said in the `consistency` thread, does anyone think Bailey could fill in at RB at a pinch? We`d lose the attacking side of the position sure but defensively he ought to be fine.
Davefevs Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: I`ve said in the `consistency` thread, does anyone think Bailey could fill in at RB at a pinch? We`d lose the attacking side of the position sure but defensively he ought to be fine. Played there 8 times in his career.
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Played there 8 times in his career. I thought he would have played there at least on a few occasions. Was it for PNE or Australia? He just looks solid enough to do a job there in an emergency to me.
Kingswoodactor Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 Why are loads of people suddenly saying to play Leko as a striker on Tuesday night? The lad is a winger... Or are we going back to just playing people anywhere as we're short of options up top? We brought Woodrow in as a striker with Championship experience, if we're not going to play him in place of Fam, then send him back to Fulham. Get Leko out wide to supply crosses and terrify their fullbacks if you're going to play him.
SedRA Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 26 minutes ago, Kingswoodactor said: Why are loads of people suddenly saying to play Leko as a striker on Tuesday night? The lad is a winger... Or are we going back to just playing people anywhere as we're short of options up top? We brought Woodrow in as a striker with Championship experience, if we're not going to play him in place of Fam, then send him back to Fulham. Get Leko out wide to supply crosses and terrify their fullbacks if you're going to play him. I think because he came on as striker yesterday and impressed. I guess in a tough away fixture such as this you could see people wanting the more defensively able players on the left and right so using Leko up front isn't an unreasonable shout as he showed he's a option in that role.
Kingswoodactor Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, RedSA said: I think because he came on as striker yesterday and impressed. I guess in a tough away fixture such as this you could see people wanting the more defensively able players on the left and right so using Leko up front isn't an unreasonable shout as he showed he's a option in that role. Woodrow is pointless then. Leko is not the sort of player who will play with his back to goal and hold the ball up for us, and also that doesn't play to his strengths. Away at Wolves we're going to need someone up there to hold it up, hassle their centre backs and bring our other attackers into play. Sure he can do a job up there in the final stages of a game against tired legs, but people who think that he should start as our 'No 9' should really have a day off.
shelts Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 Hope Pisano is back as I like this chap, if not I think Vyner will start. Flint has surely earned the right to stay in the side and i for one will be very dissaponted if Wright comes in for him, if he does it might mean something else . Leko not sure at all as I haven't seen him yet, if he's a prem starlet and an England B international we should be giving him a go and West Brom will expect it . Interesting decisions .
Garland-sweden Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 3 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: How bad is Joe`s injury? Will he be OK for Tuesday? In the interwiev LJ said Bryan have pain. Dont think he will play tuesday.
SedRA Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 25 minutes ago, Kingswoodactor said: Woodrow is pointless then. Leko is not the sort of player who will play with his back to goal and hold the ball up for us, and also that doesn't play to his strengths. Away at Wolves we're going to need someone up there to hold it up, hassle their centre backs and bring our other attackers into play. Sure he can do a job up there in the final stages of a game against tired legs, but people who think that he should start as our 'No 9' should really have a day off. Not really, they're just different options. There's more than one way a striker can play and a team play off/with him. As I'm sure you're aware Don't know how it would turnout myself. Suppose we'll find out if/when it happens. Not sure what the patronising attitude is about towards those that think it's a good idea.
Kingswoodactor Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, RedSA said: Not really, they're just different options. There's more than one way a striker can play and a team play off/with him. As I'm sure you're aware Don't know how it would turnout myself. Suppose we'll find out if/when it happens. Not sure what the patronising attitude is about towards those that think it's a good idea. Fair enough, we'll find out I guess. Sorry for the patronising tone, I got carried away there
SedRA Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Kingswoodactor said: Fair enough, we'll find out I guess. Sorry for the patronising tone, I got carried away there Fair play. Would be great if he turned out to be an exciting striker as well as winger.
Redtucks Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 6 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: Historically we tend to do badly there. I think we'll make changes - we can afford to now. I expect Wright will replace Flint - rightly or wrongly Wouldn't be surprised to see Leko start and possibly a patched up Pisano. I almost read that as a pissed up Patchano!!!
shelts Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 We used to have a England B but no longer in name . Under 21 then the full team , so in affect it is an England B team . I disagree over Wright and haven't really taken to him from the start and was amazed he got the armband . We shall see Tuesday!!!
Davefevs Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Red Right Hand said: I thought he would have played there at least on a few occasions. Was it for PNE or Australia? He just looks solid enough to do a job there in an emergency to me. All for PNE, 1 in 14/15, 1 in 13/14 and 6 in 12/13 from memory
Kid in the Riot Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 Probably the scariest thing about Wolves is that not only do they have plenty of quality attacking options but they've also kept 6 clean sheets out of their opening 8 games. So, will be very tough to break down. Neil Harris said on Saturday that whoever finishes above them will be promoted and based on the evidence so far I'd be inclined to agree with him.
JBFC II Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 Their fans seem very confident looking at their forum (and rightly so) but if we go and play like we did in the 2nd half v Reading then I'm confident we can come away with something. Team wise, I'd go: Fielding Pisano/Wright Flint Baker Bryan/Kelly Smith Pack Brownhill Paterson Diedhiou Reid That team should have enough energy to press them and enough pace on the break to get something
JBFC II Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 Only 500 sold for this one, surely we should be taking at least double that? Poor on our part imo
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Only 500 sold for this one, surely we should be taking at least double that? Poor on our part imo Tuesday night, big day out on Saturday, Derby & Stoke coming up at home, WMP - a perfect storm really.
PHILINFRANCE Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 41 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Their fans seem very confident looking at their forum (and rightly so) but if we go and play like we did in the 2nd half v Reading then I'm confident we can come away with something. Team wise, I'd go: Fielding Pisano Wright Flint Baker Bryan Kelly Smith Pack Brownhill Paterson Diedhiou Reid That team should have enough energy to press them and enough pace on the break to get something Certainly looks like a strong defence.
JBFC II Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: Certainly looks like a strong defence. Taking out the dashes certainly makes a difference to it....
PHILINFRANCE Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 7 hours ago, Andy082005 said: What was the comment he made? Wright's shirt to lose. 'But what if I score', asks AF. Then I'll play you up front says LJ. We shall see.
PHILINFRANCE Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Taking out the dashes certainly makes a difference to it.... One can but try .
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 15 minutes ago, cynic said: 1-0 to City. Lump it on. Thank me later. Just a grand for me I think. Always bet responsibly is my watchword.
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 If we manage a point there it would be IMHO A cracking result and above expectation A win.... would be mind blowingly good Anticipating we may get turned over but that wouldn't spell out any form of failure for me
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: If we manage a point there it would be IMHO A cracking result and above expectation A win.... would be mind blowingly good Anticipating we may get turned over but that wouldn't spell out any form of failure for me In a nutshell mate. I`m fully expecting us to lose and if it`s only 1-0 or 2-1 won`t be too disappointed TBH. Wasn`t it last year they got a pen when Flinty held his hands up to it before the ref blew? He`s going to want to put that right I should think. I also think they might just underestimate us a bit which will help.
Chappers Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 2 hours ago, RedSA said: I think because he came on as striker yesterday and impressed. I guess in a tough away fixture such as this you could see people wanting the more defensively able players on the left and right so using Leko up front isn't an unreasonable shout as he showed he's a option in that role. Simple question, what exactly did he do to impress? As I recall he ran around a bit but contributed nothing of note. That's not writing him off, or being critical in any way, he was not on for long, and will need games to settle in. Be honest, none of us are really any the wiser, and you cannot judge either way based on his brief performance at Reading.
JBFC II Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 19 minutes ago, Chappers said: Simple question, what exactly did he do to impress? As I recall he ran around a bit but contributed nothing of note. That's not writing him off, or being critical in any way, he was not on for long, and will need games to settle in. Be honest, none of us are really any the wiser, and you cannot judge either way based on his brief performance at Reading. I thought he looked very sharp, some excellent turns and you could tell he was a threat as they were putting 2 men on him, looking forward to seeing him from the start tbf
shelts Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 1 hour ago, cynic said: Hard decision re Wright or Flint - happy with either tbh but Wright hasn't put a foot wrong so far. We may well go with three at the back to match them up and fit both in the team. Dilemma for LJ - damned if he do and damned if he don't, rather him than me Intriguing times at BS3. I like 4-4-2 myself but we need flexibility in shape . Good problems for LJ
SedRA Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Chappers said: Simple question, what exactly did he do to impress? As I recall he ran around a bit but contributed nothing of note. That's not writing him off, or being critical in any way, he was not on for long, and will need games to settle in. Be honest, none of us are really any the wiser, and you cannot judge either way based on his brief performance at Reading. TBH I meant more he impressed others, which is why they were suggesting him as a striker. I'm probably in the same boat as you, but I understand the feeling that he had made himself an option if they saw something in his performance.
The Constant Rabbit Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 LJ wants a team to play for him,, so let them do just that. 3 at the back, make the midfield really solid and tough, with pace on one wing to a big striker, with one from midfield pushing up as the traditional #10. If we can win this - well we haven't since 1931 apparently - then we are most certainly on the right track! If Pisano is fit, do people think he can push up to play as a genuine mid if we play 3 at the back?
cheshire_red Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 Can't see the Summer marque signing being dropped after 8 games
JBFC II Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 They seem confident, much like Reading.... https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/index.php?threads/bristol-city-predictions.198519/page-2
Red Army 75 Posted September 11, 2017 Author Posted September 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, JBFC II said: They seem confident, much like Reading.... https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/index.php?threads/bristol-city-predictions.198519/page-2 Yep expected to beat us . Let's hope there players are thinking it will be as easy . Tough game for us tomorrow. But you never know. COYR
hoxton casual Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 13 hours ago, cynic said: I fully expect Wright to come back in and rightly so. England B ? What is that ? I know that semi pro is England C but not sure what England B is? Leko has played at most youth levels up to U-21 and had a few EPL appearances so he should be more than ready for Championship and it may well be that he gets his starting debut - but it will be out wide not centrally imo. That makes me an England Z!
Port Said Red Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 I expect a defeat to be honest, I know that sounds bad, but history is very much against us. What I do want to see though is that we remain competitive, i wouldn't like to see a lot of the good work done so far to be undone by a poor performance. I think we have the squad for Johnson to pick a "horses for courses" type line up, try to match up to the kind of players they have. Fammy seems to be struggling with Championship level stamina so I think he will take a rest, I have to believe that the players practice all sorts of scenarios, so 3-5-2 may be an option if LJ is as worried about Vyner's performance as some on here.
Wanderingred Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 I expect a defeat too although I'm a lot more relaxed about this game, now that we've won at Reading.. I said before these two away games that anything more than two points would be above expectations so we are in credit already! A Wolves fan on another forum told me that he is worried about their lack of a plan B when teams come to stifle them and close them down, like Cardiff did so lets go out there with another disciplined and energetic performance and see where it takes us. If we lose, so be it.. If we draw great and if we win... This forum might well go beserk! COYR.
1bristolcity Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 More relaxed about this too, so should the players, not relaxed as if they don't care, but relaxed enough to play their football, the sort we did against Watford and Barnsley.
Andy082005 Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 Incredibly difficult place to go to and for me, they could be top two this season
Super Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 30 minutes ago, Wanderingred said: I expect a defeat too although I'm a lot more relaxed about this game, now that we've won at Reading.. I said before these two away games that anything more than two points would be above expectations so we are in credit already! A Wolves fan on another forum told me that he is worried about their lack of a plan B when teams come to stifle them and close them down, like Cardiff did so lets go out there with another disciplined and energetic performance and see where it takes us. If we lose, so be it.. If we draw great and if we win... This forum might well go beserk! COYR. Kind of feels like a free hit for us after the result on Saturday.
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 Point would be an impressive result tbh. This time we're up against experienced manager, CL experience, decent La Liga record- in addition to the fact they have started well, good skilful side- possibly higher calibre than Reading, certainly in terms of individuals with Neves and Jota sprining to mind, and as KITR points out, the defence. Leko for Diedhiou.
RUSSEL85 Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Super said: Kind of feels like a free hit for us after the result on Saturday. I feel that too, I would have been happy with 2 draws away at Reading and Wolves. Lee will want to win but we all know a draw would be a good result. If we can get an early goal it may frustrate the crowd a little and will enable us to counter much more effectively the more they come on to us (hopefully not as bad as Brentford). Unfortunately though I'm saying 2-0 to Wolves.
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