Never to the dark side Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 6pm Monday night sound of the City
Taz Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Hampshire Red said: What radio station please? The clue is in the title....
Kid in the Riot Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 Hopefully Geoff's first question is "Mark, why did you refuse to come on the programme back in February?"
42nite Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 Mark, help save the planet and turn the lights down a bit. I can see the glow from here during night matches!
Major Isewater Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Hampshire reds said: Radio Solent. Radio Insolent .
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Radio Insolent . The station Chris Morris wishes he`d had the money to create in the 80s!
Jack Dawe Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 Aden Flint never once said to the club that he wanted to leave, last "window," according to MA on Radio Bris just now. So, he had his head turnt (LJ) but never said he wanted to go (MA), and it was perhaps - as he said to, I think, @RedM - not up to him, but between his representative, the club and Birmingham stumping up the necessary.
Vincent Vega Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 Coming across much better IMO, a lot less buzz words.
Sweeneys Penalties Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said: Coming across much better IMO, a lot less buzz words. I thought that.
ZiderMeUp Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 Did he say anything about a new training ground and academy?
Vincent Vega Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 1 minute ago, ZiderMeUp said: Did he say anything about a new training ground and academy? Progressing.
Jack Dawe Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 14 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said: Coming across much better IMO, a lot less buzz words. It's funny what difference 2 defeats in umpteen games, rather than 2 wins in umpteen, makes.....
BobBobSuperBob Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 Not sure GT is taken in by him , going by his challenging of some of MAs answers Fair play GT His attempted spin about LA - Cringeworthy and out of order IMO
Red Kev 58 Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 Hi. Just put a question to Mark Ashton on RB about who made the decision to sell him to Leeds. M A said that Luke asked to move on but we all know the real reason and for Lee to say previously that we sold him to balance the books to accommodate Tammy is garbish. I was talking to a Leeds fan before the game and he said he was their most consistent player last season. Why can't Lee swallow his bitter pill, and admit it then we might still have a decent right back instead of a make shift one.
Jack Dawe Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Not really He used the buzzwords from the day he arrived and they were present when he was interviewed at the start of last season when we were doing well. But as you said on another thread "we all struggle with reality sometimes" Funny what difference it makes to us, young man. With what we hear. You have struggled with the "reality" of my post but with no accompanying, winking emoji, you can be forgiven for this. Hope you make it tomorrow night (I'd give you a lift back but I'm heading the opposite way after. Maybe another time?)
steviestevieneville Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 14 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Not sure GT is taken in by him , going by his challenging of some of MAs answers Fair play GT His attempted spin about LA - Cringeworthy and out of order IMO LA Bob ?
downendcity Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 12 hours ago, Hampshire Red said: What radio station please? You've got 50:50 or phone a friend.
BRISTOL86 Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 18 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Not sure GT is taken in by him , going by his challenging of some of MAs answers Fair play GT His attempted spin about LA - Cringeworthy and out of order IMO What did he say?
Admin Phantom Posted October 23, 2017 Admin Posted October 23, 2017 Just now, BRISTOL86 said: What did he say? See up the page
steviestevieneville Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 1 minute ago, JamesBCFC said: Ayling? ah yeah , thanks. Yes he did skirt around that. Good interesting interview though in general
Lrrr Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 19 minutes ago, Red Kev 58 said: Hi. Just put a question to Mark Ashton on RB about who made the decision to sell him to Leeds. M A said that Luke asked to move on but we all know the real reason and for Lee to say previously that we sold him to balance the books to accommodate Tammy is garbish. I was talking to a Leeds fan before the game and he said he was their most consistent player last season. Why can't Lee swallow his bitter pill, and admit it then we might still have a decent right back instead of a make shift one. I've never seen or heard this, any reference for Lee saying it?
steviestevieneville Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 22 minutes ago, Red Kev 58 said: Hi. Just put a question to Mark Ashton on RB about who made the decision to sell him to Leeds. M A said that Luke asked to move on but we all know the real reason and for Lee to say previously that we sold him to balance the books to accommodate Tammy is garbish. I was talking to a Leeds fan before the game and he said he was their most consistent player last season. Why can't Lee swallow his bitter pill, and admit it then we might still have a decent right back instead of a make shift one. About time we let the Ayling transfer go tbh. He left over a year ago
Vincent Vega Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 23 minutes ago, Red Kev 58 said: Hi. Just put a question to Mark Ashton on RB about who made the decision to sell him to Leeds. M A said that Luke asked to move on but we all know the real reason and for Lee to say previously that we sold him to balance the books to accommodate Tammy is garbish. I was talking to a Leeds fan before the game and he said he was their most consistent player last season. Why can't Lee swallow his bitter pill, and admit it then we might still have a decent right back instead of a make shift one.
Davefevs Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 16 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: I have my ticket for tomorrow, however may be volunteering somewhere instead in the evening, hopefully I'm not needed though. Text me tomorrow James, I’m planning on going straight from work without Joe, so assuming I get there (traffic from Swindon a nightmare tonight) i can drop you off on way home. PM me if you’ve lost my mobile.
Spoons Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 30 minutes ago, Red Kev 58 said: Hi. Just put a question to Mark Ashton on RB about who made the decision to sell him to Leeds. M A said that Luke asked to move on but we all know the real reason and for Lee to say previously that we sold him to balance the books to accommodate Tammy is garbish. I was talking to a Leeds fan before the game and he said he was their most consistent player last season. Why can't Lee swallow his bitter pill, and admit it then we might still have a decent right back instead of a make shift one. Yep can you also ask why we sold Andy cole please.... Do you think we are the only club who have let players go or sold players on perhaps when they shouldn't have?? At the time I was more than happy to have Adam Matthews as a replacement after a successful loan spell. Obviously proved wrong but hindsight is a wonderful thing.
REDOXO Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 Went up and down about Ayling at the time. He pissed off SL and we had a better option (that turned out to be shit). Ayling has performed excellently away from AG as by and large has Freeman. It happens we move on.
Vincent Vega Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 25 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Went up and down about Ayling at the time. He pissed off SL and we had a better option (that turned out to be shit). Ayling has performed excellently away from AG as by and large has Freeman. It happens we move on. Interesting point, no one really mentions Freeman.
BRISTOL86 Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 56 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: About time we let the Ayling transfer go tbh. He left over a year ago More to the point, what do people honestly expect MA/LJ to say.....”he royally pissed off Uncle Steve so the order came down the line to move him on” ??
slartibartfast Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 51 minutes ago, Spoons said: Yep can you also ask why we sold Andy cole please.... Do you think we are the only club who have let players go or sold players on perhaps when they shouldn't have?? And while we're about it, why did Tommy Docherty sell John Galley to us, fellow relegation battlers ?
Jack Dawe Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Red Kev 58 said: Hi. Just put a question to Mark Ashton on RB about who made the decision to sell him to Leeds. M A said that Luke asked to move on but we all know the real reason and for Lee to say previously that we sold him to balance the books to accommodate Tammy is garbish. I was talking to a Leeds fan before the game and he said he was their most consistent player last season. Why can't Lee swallow his bitter pill, and admit it then we might still have a decent right back instead of a make shift one. Looks like you're not permitted to query this one, Kev. You got any other more up to date complaints? Or even something complimentary, if you've got this??
spudski Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 Pisano was bought in for a reason. Regardless of the reasons why Ayling left, no way would he be the desired type of player to suit the way LJ wants to play. We've missed Pisano, Wright has done a 'job' and it's obvious Vyner still isn't quite up to speed yet.
Ska Junkie Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 I've just listened to the whole thing, what a difference. No smarm, no waffle, very few buzz words even a bit of self criticism. I like the new Mark Ashton a lot more than the old one I have to say. Good stuff from GT too.
BobBobSuperBob Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 2 hours ago, hodge said: I've never seen or heard this, any reference for Lee saying it? Said this on Sat on RB 1 hour ago, Spoons said: Yep can you also ask why we sold Andy cole please.... Do you think we are the only club who have let players go or sold players on perhaps when they shouldn't have?? At the time I was more than happy to have Adam Matthews as a replacement after a successful loan spell. Obviously proved wrong but hindsight is a wonderful thing. 1 hour ago, REDOXO said: Went up and down about Ayling at the time. He pissed off SL and we had a better option (that turned out to be shit). Ayling has performed excellently away from AG as by and large has Freeman. It happens we move on. Think you're missing my point about what was said - When Ayling was sold LJ stated that he'd explained to LA that his game time was going to be limited and so when Leeds came in LA accepted it was time to move on Tonight MA hint d that Ayling , like Kodja had asked to leave the club , when challenged about this by GT he backed down quickly and waffled about ongoing discussions at the time If not challenged by GT Ashton was happy to leave anyone listening and unaware of LJs comments at the time (Or even those on Saturday) believing that LA had engineered a move away Thought it was disgraceful Listen to the i/v and see what you think GT thinks of MA Fair play he challenged his answers on several occasions - top interviewer IMHO
Ska Junkie Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 I would have liked a question on infrastructure rumours, the land between the Lansdown and W'stoke rd plus put the constant rumours about the houses behind the Atyeo to bed. I appreciate he wouldn't have been able to say much but he could have said 'no' if asked was there anything in the rumours.
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Ska Junkie said: I would have liked a question on infrastructure rumours, the land between the Lansdown and W'stoke rd plus put the constant rumours about the houses behind the Atyeo to bed. I appreciate he wouldn't have been able to say much but he could have said 'no' if asked was there anything in the rumours. And then we`d have known for sure that it was all systems go for a new Atyeo!
SStandUp Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 28 minutes ago, spudski said: Pisano was bought in for a reason. Regardless of the reasons why Ayling left, no way would he be the desired type of player to suit the way LJ wants to play. We've missed Pisano, Wright has done a 'job' and it's obvious Vyner still isn't quite up to speed yet. Bang on
BobBobSuperBob Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Red Kev 58 said: Hi. Just put a question to Mark Ashton on RB about who made the decision to sell him to Leeds. M A said that Luke asked to move on but we all know the real reason and for Lee to say previously that we sold him to balance the books to accommodate Tammy is garbish. I was talking to a Leeds fan before the game and he said he was their most consistent player last season. Why can't Lee swallow his bitter pill, and admit it then we might still have a decent right back instead of a make shift one. See my post above Kev Pisano is decent , better than Ayling ? Not so sure but there we are, but we at least have a decent RB when fit Otherwise I'm with you despite the rubbish tags you've had thrown in your direction (Wonder how many of those heard the interview or LJs previous comments on the matter ) LJ and MA believed they had a 'Rolls Royce' in Matthews and were happy to offload Ayling Crap decision knowing Matthews latter history post Cardiff but there we are Whats annoyed me is not for the first time bullshit is in full swing and what's worse is MA is happy to taint a decent player for us in LA with what clearly are lies , or to put it another way all three differing accounts can't all be right Doesnt do those in charge may favours Just put your hands up you made a decision that was in hindsight a poor one and cut the lies n spin MA also praised Flint tonight about keeping his lips tight in transfer window and then claimed they had done the same Funny , but I was sure we had been told 'Adens head has been turned' Annoys me massively - spin merchants or should it be liars
Red34 Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 While he doesn't mention the Atyeo I did like a lot of the answers on this: http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mark-ashton-confirms-new-training-668349 Glad to see the ambition is definitely there about improving the already excellent academy and training ground...
Norn Iron Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 40 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: I would have liked a question on infrastructure rumours, the land between the Lansdown and W'stoke rd plus put the constant rumours about the houses behind the Atyeo to bed. Bed as in Bedminster? SL is moving all the houses to Bemmy? Wow!
Ska Junkie Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, Norn Iron said: Bed as in Bedminster? SL is moving all the houses to Bemmy? Wow! He probably owns half of it anyway NI!
Ska Junkie Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 35 minutes ago, Red34 said: While he doesn't mention the Atyeo I did like a lot of the answers on this: http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mark-ashton-confirms-new-training-668349 Glad to see the ambition is definitely there about improving the already excellent academy and training ground... Wasn't that supposed to be going on the Ashton Vale land?
AppyDAZE Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 15 hours ago, BCFC J said: BBC Suffolk. At least everyone resisted the temptation to say Radio SPIN
REDOXO Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 1 hour ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Said this on Sat on RB Think you're missing my point about what was said - When Ayling was sold LJ stated that he'd explained to LA that his game time was going to be limited and so when Leeds came in LA accepted it was time to move on Tonight MA hint d that Ayling , like Kodja had asked to leave the club , when challenged about this by GT he backed down quickly and waffled about ongoing discussions at the time If not challenged by GT Ashton was happy to leave anyone listening and unaware of LJs comments at the time (Or even those on Saturday) believing that LA had engineered a move away Thought it was disgraceful Listen to the i/v and see what you think GT thinks of MA Fair play he challenged his answers on several occasions - top interviewer IMHO Not sure I even read what you said Bob. However yes I think MA tried to change the narrative about LA today and it crossed my mind, being a good soldier he tried some kind of LJ defence. Either way you are right about what LJ said at the time but I would still wAger Chrltenham had something to do with it as did Matthews.
BobBobSuperBob Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Not sure I even read what you said Bob. However yes I think MA tried to change the narrative about LA today and it crossed my mind, being a good soldier he tried some kind of LJ defence. Either way you are right about what LJ said at the time but I would still wAger Chrltenham had something to do with it as did Matthews. Agree Cheltnham may have played a part as was the fact LA was a SC man Defending his and LJs or SLs decision - That's one thing (Lee was quite the clear at time it was for footballing decisions) but in doing so , happy to mislead and at same time taint a popular player , who did us proud (And was only complimentary about the Club when he was moved on) was , I'm afraid , disgraceful
REDOXO Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 16 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Agree Cheltnham may have played a part as was the fact LA was a SC man Defending his and LJs or SLs decision - That's one thing (Lee was quite the clear at time it was for footballing decisions) but in doing so , happy to mislead and at same time taint a popular player , who did us proud (And was only complimentary about the Club when he was moved on) was , I'm afraid , disgraceful Once a player is told he was surplus his agent will be on the look out for a club. Leeds got a bargain. Aylin got a club where he is not surpluss. MAs comments were unnecessary and not in line with previous that is clear.
42nite Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 8 hours ago, downendcity said: You've got 50:50 or phone a friend. I'll phone Robbo Chris...........
Red34 Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 8 hours ago, Ska Junkie said: Wasn't that supposed to be going on the Ashton Vale land? Maybe that's the sensitive part he talks about
exAtyeoMax Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 10 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: See my post above Kev Pisano is decent , better than Ayling ? Not so sure but there we are, but we at least have a decent RB when fit Otherwise I'm with you despite the rubbish tags you've had thrown in your direction (Wonder how many of those heard the interview or LJs previous comments on the matter ) LJ and MA believed they had a 'Rolls Royce' in Matthews and were happy to offload Ayling Crap decision knowing Matthews latter history post Cardiff but there we are Whats annoyed me is not for the first time bullshit is in full swing and what's worse is MA is happy to taint a decent player for us in LA with what clearly are lies , or to put it another way all three differing accounts can't all be right Doesnt do those in charge may favours Just put your hands up you made a decision that was in hindsight a poor one and cut the lies n spin MA also praised Flint tonight about keeping his lips tight in transfer window and then claimed they had done the same Funny , but I was sure we had been told 'Adens head has been turned' Annoys me massively - spin merchants or should it be liars That is one thing that does annoy me about LJ. He should just keep shtum…
BigTone Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 18 hours ago, Major Isewater said: Radio Insolent . Don't be rude Major
otib118 Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 28 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: That is one thing that does annoy me about LJ. He should just keep shtum… Trouble is when he or anyone in the club tries to do that everyone then has a go At them for lack of communication!
Phileas Fogg Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 Had a listen last night. You were right @BobBobSuperBob, GT really pushed Ashton on a few issues. I got the impression GT doesn’t have that much time for him really and finds him a little odd. He even pushed him on his new ‘CEO’ job title. Think Geoff finds him a bit pretentious and perculiar - probably prefers more straight talking football men. I’ve defended Ashton on here but I can see why people are suspicious of him. He’s corporate and comes across as a bit fake and there were a few red flags for me yesterday - the comments on Ayling for example were out of step with other things we’ve heard. Overall he’s probably great at dealing with agents and board members - but there’s something about him I can’t totally trust.
Robbored Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 I didn't hear the MA interview so can't comment on the content but reading thru this thread it seems that some posters are critical of what he said. The word "spin" crops up written in a negative manner and I wonder why some are so critical of "spin". Thats what all senior employees at AG do. It's part of their job to portray that they are professionals who know what they're doing and that the club is in safe hands. You won't hear any of them say anything that might portray the club in a negative light. Call it "spin" and corporate speech all you want but what else did anyone expect?
Phileas Fogg Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Robbored said: I didn't hear the MA interview so can't comment on the content but reading thru this thread it seems that some posters are critical of what he said. The word "spin" crops up written in a negative manner and I wonder why some are so critical of "spin". Thats what all senior employees at AG do. It's part of their job to portray that they are professionals who know what they're doing and that the club is in safe hands. You won't hear any of them say anything that might portray the club in a negative light. Call it "spin" and corporate speech all you want but what else did anyone expect? What people mean is the inconsistency - Ashton’s comments on Ayling were out of step with Johnson’s and he tried to make it look as if Ayling wanted to leave. Recently LJ implied the sale could've been a mistake in hindsight. People would have more respect for Ashton if he sometimes just said things like that - rather than pro-club propaganda.
spudski Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Had a listen last night. You were right @BobBobSuperBob, GT really pushed Ashton on a few issues. I got the impression GT doesn’t have that much time for him really and finds him a little odd. He even pushed him on his new ‘CEO’ job title. Think Geoff finds him a bit pretentious and perculiar - probably prefers more straight talking football men. I’ve defended Ashton on here but I can see why people are suspicious of him. He’s corporate and comes across as a bit fake and there were a few red flags for me yesterday - the comments on Ayling for example were out of step with other things we’ve heard. Overall he’s probably great at dealing with agents and board members - but there’s something about him I can’t totally trust. Football is full of this 'type' of person behind the scenes. You need them. Some of these players agents and board members are very...well you know ;-) That saying...'it takes one to know one'....you need people who know how to deal with the same ilk. What's worth considering...is MA is like many ex players who go on to work in other areas of football. It's all smoke and mirrors. The same as any business that deals with entertainment and large amounts of money. You see it every day on the news with other establishments. football is no different. It's all part of the 'game'... we'd be naïve to think football is any different. I often find it fascinating when you get ex footballers on tv or radio, as presenters or pundits, who become 'fan like' in their criticism or thinking, yet weren't long ago part of the circus. Some of them have short memories. Having played golf with GT in the past, his 'stories' and the way he thought it was funny at the time, don't correlate with the questioning now. Don't get me wrong...I like him and his presenting, but I do find it all a bit 'interesting' to say the least.
Son of Fred Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 34 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Had a listen last night. You were right @BobBobSuperBob, GT really pushed Ashton on a few issues. I got the impression GT doesn’t have that much time for him really and finds him a little odd. He even pushed him on his new ‘CEO’ job title. Think Geoff finds him a bit pretentious and perculiar - probably prefers more straight talking football men. I’ve defended Ashton on here but I can see why people are suspicious of him. He’s corporate and comes across as a bit fake and there were a few red flags for me yesterday - the comments on Ayling for example were out of step with other things we’ve heard. Overall he’s probably great at dealing with agents and board members - but there’s something about him I can’t totally trust. Slime glands working overtime.....(XTC)
Robbored Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 35 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: What people mean is the inconsistency - Ashton’s comments on Ayling were out of step with Johnson’s and he tried to make it look as if Ayling wanted to leave. Recently LJ implied the sale could've been a mistake in hindsight. People would have more respect for Ashton if he sometimes just said things like that - rather than pro-club propaganda. There's quite a difference between inconsistency and spin in the corporate world PF.
exAtyeoMax Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 1 hour ago, otib118 said: Trouble is when he or anyone in the club tries to do that everyone then has a go At them for lack of communication! but I think in this instance we would have been none the wiser…we didn't need to know that Flinty 'had his head turned' and it wouldn't have caused all that stink
exAtyeoMax Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 59 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Had a listen last night. You were right @BobBobSuperBob, GT really pushed Ashton on a few issues. I got the impression GT doesn’t have that much time for him really and finds him a little odd. He even pushed him on his new ‘CEO’ job title. Think Geoff finds him a bit pretentious and perculiar - probably prefers more straight talking football men. I’ve defended Ashton on here but I can see why people are suspicious of him. He’s corporate and comes across as a bit fake and there were a few red flags for me yesterday - the comments on Ayling for example were out of step with other things we’ve heard. Overall he’s probably great at dealing with agents and board members - but there’s something about him I can’t totally trust. I'll have to listen to the interview in full tonight, before the match.
reddogkev Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 Apart from the fact we played Leeds, why is all this Luke Ayling stuff resurfacing? It's been done to death on here a thousand times over.
exAtyeoMax Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 43 minutes ago, spudski said: Football is full of this 'type' of person behind the scenes. You need them. Some of these players agents and board members are very...well you know ;-) That saying...'it takes one to know one'....you need people who know how to deal with the same ilk. What's worth considering...is MA is like many ex players who go on to work in other areas of football. It's all smoke and mirrors. The same as any business that deals with entertainment and large amounts of money. You see it every day on the news with other establishments. football is no different. It's all part of the 'game'... we'd be naïve to think football is any different. I often find it fascinating when you get ex footballers on tv or radio, as presenters or pundits, who become 'fan like' in their criticism or thinking, yet weren't long ago part of the circus. Some of them have short memories. Having played golf with GT in the past, his 'stories' and the way he thought it was funny at the time, don't correlate with the questioning now. Don't get me wrong...I like him and his presenting, but I do find it all a bit 'interesting' to say the least. Yes but he is a bit too Ed Winchester. Yes, the corporate world is full of these types, that's why I know I wouldn't fit in and I don't have much time for it. I think it is unfortunate that it is full of these types, not a good thing. I just hate bullshit and spin and I think it can do more damage than good, in the long run.
reddogkev Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 Personally, MA's speech, lexicon, corporate talk etc doesn't bother me. He has been instrumental in the transformation of Bristol City Club and will no doubt continue to be a vitally important component in the rise of BCFC.
Phileas Fogg Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 28 minutes ago, Robbored said: There's quite a difference between inconsistency and spin in the corporate world PF. Thanks for that. Thing is though that last night his audience wasn’t other CEOs, agents and board members - it was fans. I don’t think he’s the devil like some do, I think he does a good job and his style is a necessary evil. I can see why people don’t totally trust him - seems like Geoff isn’t convinced.
Phileas Fogg Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 17 minutes ago, reddogkev said: Apart from the fact we played Leeds, why is all this Luke Ayling stuff resurfacing? It's been done to death on here a thousand times over. Basically because we played Leeds. He’s been in the news recently signing a new contract. Also because of our injury problems at right back. There’ll probably be chat about Freeman on here when we play QPR.
spudski Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 15 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: Yes but he is a bit too Ed Winchester. Yes, the corporate world is full of these types, that's why I know I wouldn't fit in and I don't have much time for it. I think it is unfortunate that it is full of these types, not a good thing. I just hate bullshit and spin and I think it can do more damage than good, in the long run. Much of the 'big business' world is like this unfortunately. Often they are the 'middle men'....the men at the top get 'the dogs', as I've heard it said, do the dirty work for them.
Jack Dawe Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Basically because we played Leeds. He’s been in the news recently signing a new contract. Also because of our injury problems at right back. There’ll probably be chat about Freeman on here when we play QPR. Yeah, and people mentioned Wilbs and Little after we played Bolton. I mean, what is it with people, sometimes?
exAtyeoMax Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 13 minutes ago, spudski said: Much of the 'big business' world is like this unfortunately. Often they are the 'middle men'....the men at the top get 'the dogs', as I've heard it said, do the dirty work for them. Yes, and that's why I'll never be a top business woman. My friend is a HR director of a global firm and says dealing with the top dogs is like dealing with a load of kids…
Kid in the Riot Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 12 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Said this on Sat on RB Think you're missing my point about what was said - When Ayling was sold LJ stated that he'd explained to LA that his game time was going to be limited and so when Leeds came in LA accepted it was time to move on Tonight MA hint d that Ayling , like Kodja had asked to leave the club , when challenged about this by GT he backed down quickly and waffled about ongoing discussions at the time If not challenged by GT Ashton was happy to leave anyone listening and unaware of LJs comments at the time (Or even those on Saturday) believing that LA had engineered a move away Thought it was disgraceful Listen to the i/v and see what you think GT thinks of MA Fair play he challenged his answers on several occasions - top interviewer IMHO GT has contacts in the game and undoubtedly at City. He will have known full well that Ayling didn't ask for a move away from City and nor did Flint. That is why he was able to confidently probe MA on these matters. Daft from MA though. Not spin, not trying to be clever. Not 'just doing his job'. Just daft and lacking in professionalism. And I say that as someone who has stuck up for him plenty of times.
Admin Phantom Posted October 24, 2017 Admin Posted October 24, 2017 For anyone that hasn't heard the interview HERE IT IS
Kid in the Riot Posted October 24, 2017 Posted October 24, 2017 17 minutes ago, phantom said: For anyone that hasn't heard the interview HERE IT IS 13 minutes in... GT: "So these 10-12 scouts that work for you in this country, which levels do they scout in?" MA: "Well, you'll have heard me talk before about the ponds, rivers and lakes that we fish in..." GT: "Tell me about the divisions and levels of football" Quality!
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