Spoons Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 30 minutes ago, Red Kev 58 said: Hi. Just put a question to Mark Ashton on RB about who made the decision to sell him to Leeds. M A said that Luke asked to move on but we all know the real reason and for Lee to say previously that we sold him to balance the books to accommodate Tammy is garbish. I was talking to a Leeds fan before the game and he said he was their most consistent player last season. Why can't Lee swallow his bitter pill, and admit it then we might still have a decent right back instead of a make shift one. Yep can you also ask why we sold Andy cole please.... Do you think we are the only club who have let players go or sold players on perhaps when they shouldn't have?? At the time I was more than happy to have Adam Matthews as a replacement after a successful loan spell. Obviously proved wrong but hindsight is a wonderful thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Went up and down about Ayling at the time. He pissed off SL and we had a better option (that turned out to be shit). Ayling has performed excellently away from AG as by and large has Freeman. It happens we move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 25 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Went up and down about Ayling at the time. He pissed off SL and we had a better option (that turned out to be shit). Ayling has performed excellently away from AG as by and large has Freeman. It happens we move on. Interesting point, no one really mentions Freeman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 56 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: About time we let the Ayling transfer go tbh. He left over a year ago More to the point, what do people honestly expect MA/LJ to say.....”he royally pissed off Uncle Steve so the order came down the line to move him on” ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 51 minutes ago, Spoons said: Yep can you also ask why we sold Andy cole please.... Do you think we are the only club who have let players go or sold players on perhaps when they shouldn't have?? And while we're about it, why did Tommy Docherty sell John Galley to us, fellow relegation battlers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Red Kev 58 said: Hi. Just put a question to Mark Ashton on RB about who made the decision to sell him to Leeds. M A said that Luke asked to move on but we all know the real reason and for Lee to say previously that we sold him to balance the books to accommodate Tammy is garbish. I was talking to a Leeds fan before the game and he said he was their most consistent player last season. Why can't Lee swallow his bitter pill, and admit it then we might still have a decent right back instead of a make shift one. Looks like you're not permitted to query this one, Kev. You got any other more up to date complaints? Or even something complimentary, if you've got this?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Pisano was bought in for a reason. Regardless of the reasons why Ayling left, no way would he be the desired type of player to suit the way LJ wants to play. We've missed Pisano, Wright has done a 'job' and it's obvious Vyner still isn't quite up to speed yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 I've just listened to the whole thing, what a difference. No smarm, no waffle, very few buzz words even a bit of self criticism. I like the new Mark Ashton a lot more than the old one I have to say. Good stuff from GT too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 2 hours ago, hodge said: I've never seen or heard this, any reference for Lee saying it? Said this on Sat on RB 1 hour ago, Spoons said: Yep can you also ask why we sold Andy cole please.... Do you think we are the only club who have let players go or sold players on perhaps when they shouldn't have?? At the time I was more than happy to have Adam Matthews as a replacement after a successful loan spell. Obviously proved wrong but hindsight is a wonderful thing. 1 hour ago, REDOXO said: Went up and down about Ayling at the time. He pissed off SL and we had a better option (that turned out to be shit). Ayling has performed excellently away from AG as by and large has Freeman. It happens we move on. Think you're missing my point about what was said - When Ayling was sold LJ stated that he'd explained to LA that his game time was going to be limited and so when Leeds came in LA accepted it was time to move on Tonight MA hint d that Ayling , like Kodja had asked to leave the club , when challenged about this by GT he backed down quickly and waffled about ongoing discussions at the time If not challenged by GT Ashton was happy to leave anyone listening and unaware of LJs comments at the time (Or even those on Saturday) believing that LA had engineered a move away Thought it was disgraceful Listen to the i/v and see what you think GT thinks of MA Fair play he challenged his answers on several occasions - top interviewer IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 I would have liked a question on infrastructure rumours, the land between the Lansdown and W'stoke rd plus put the constant rumours about the houses behind the Atyeo to bed. I appreciate he wouldn't have been able to say much but he could have said 'no' if asked was there anything in the rumours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Ska Junkie said: I would have liked a question on infrastructure rumours, the land between the Lansdown and W'stoke rd plus put the constant rumours about the houses behind the Atyeo to bed. I appreciate he wouldn't have been able to say much but he could have said 'no' if asked was there anything in the rumours. And then we`d have known for sure that it was all systems go for a new Atyeo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SStandUp Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 28 minutes ago, spudski said: Pisano was bought in for a reason. Regardless of the reasons why Ayling left, no way would he be the desired type of player to suit the way LJ wants to play. We've missed Pisano, Wright has done a 'job' and it's obvious Vyner still isn't quite up to speed yet. Bang on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Red Kev 58 said: Hi. Just put a question to Mark Ashton on RB about who made the decision to sell him to Leeds. M A said that Luke asked to move on but we all know the real reason and for Lee to say previously that we sold him to balance the books to accommodate Tammy is garbish. I was talking to a Leeds fan before the game and he said he was their most consistent player last season. Why can't Lee swallow his bitter pill, and admit it then we might still have a decent right back instead of a make shift one. See my post above Kev Pisano is decent , better than Ayling ? Not so sure but there we are, but we at least have a decent RB when fit Otherwise I'm with you despite the rubbish tags you've had thrown in your direction (Wonder how many of those heard the interview or LJs previous comments on the matter ) LJ and MA believed they had a 'Rolls Royce' in Matthews and were happy to offload Ayling Crap decision knowing Matthews latter history post Cardiff but there we are Whats annoyed me is not for the first time bullshit is in full swing and what's worse is MA is happy to taint a decent player for us in LA with what clearly are lies , or to put it another way all three differing accounts can't all be right Doesnt do those in charge may favours Just put your hands up you made a decision that was in hindsight a poor one and cut the lies n spin MA also praised Flint tonight about keeping his lips tight in transfer window and then claimed they had done the same Funny , but I was sure we had been told 'Adens head has been turned' Annoys me massively - spin merchants or should it be liars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red34 Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 While he doesn't mention the Atyeo I did like a lot of the answers on this: http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mark-ashton-confirms-new-training-668349 Glad to see the ambition is definitely there about improving the already excellent academy and training ground... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norn Iron Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 40 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: I would have liked a question on infrastructure rumours, the land between the Lansdown and W'stoke rd plus put the constant rumours about the houses behind the Atyeo to bed. Bed as in Bedminster? SL is moving all the houses to Bemmy? Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, Norn Iron said: Bed as in Bedminster? SL is moving all the houses to Bemmy? Wow! He probably owns half of it anyway NI! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 35 minutes ago, Red34 said: While he doesn't mention the Atyeo I did like a lot of the answers on this: http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mark-ashton-confirms-new-training-668349 Glad to see the ambition is definitely there about improving the already excellent academy and training ground... Wasn't that supposed to be going on the Ashton Vale land? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 15 hours ago, BCFC J said: BBC Suffolk. At least everyone resisted the temptation to say Radio SPIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 hour ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Said this on Sat on RB Think you're missing my point about what was said - When Ayling was sold LJ stated that he'd explained to LA that his game time was going to be limited and so when Leeds came in LA accepted it was time to move on Tonight MA hint d that Ayling , like Kodja had asked to leave the club , when challenged about this by GT he backed down quickly and waffled about ongoing discussions at the time If not challenged by GT Ashton was happy to leave anyone listening and unaware of LJs comments at the time (Or even those on Saturday) believing that LA had engineered a move away Thought it was disgraceful Listen to the i/v and see what you think GT thinks of MA Fair play he challenged his answers on several occasions - top interviewer IMHO Not sure I even read what you said Bob. However yes I think MA tried to change the narrative about LA today and it crossed my mind, being a good soldier he tried some kind of LJ defence. Either way you are right about what LJ said at the time but I would still wAger Chrltenham had something to do with it as did Matthews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Not sure I even read what you said Bob. However yes I think MA tried to change the narrative about LA today and it crossed my mind, being a good soldier he tried some kind of LJ defence. Either way you are right about what LJ said at the time but I would still wAger Chrltenham had something to do with it as did Matthews. Agree Cheltnham may have played a part as was the fact LA was a SC man Defending his and LJs or SLs decision - That's one thing (Lee was quite the clear at time it was for footballing decisions) but in doing so , happy to mislead and at same time taint a popular player , who did us proud (And was only complimentary about the Club when he was moved on) was , I'm afraid , disgraceful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 @BobBobSuperBob I dont think the stuff about Flint is necessarily contradictary. He could well have said (behind the scenes) a move to Brum would have interested him, but that he was happy here. Theoretically there you have someone who's head is turned and hasnt asked for a move. Pure supposition, am not ITK in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 16 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Agree Cheltnham may have played a part as was the fact LA was a SC man Defending his and LJs or SLs decision - That's one thing (Lee was quite the clear at time it was for footballing decisions) but in doing so , happy to mislead and at same time taint a popular player , who did us proud (And was only complimentary about the Club when he was moved on) was , I'm afraid , disgraceful Once a player is told he was surplus his agent will be on the look out for a club. Leeds got a bargain. Aylin got a club where he is not surpluss. MAs comments were unnecessary and not in line with previous that is clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 8 hours ago, downendcity said: You've got 50:50 or phone a friend. I'll phone Robbo Chris........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red34 Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 8 hours ago, Ska Junkie said: Wasn't that supposed to be going on the Ashton Vale land? Maybe that's the sensitive part he talks about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire Red Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Red Kev, Lj doesn't need to swallow any pill based on your opinion of Ayling being g good ( based on something, some Leeds fans reportedly say!) How well have you seen him play this season. Did you see him v Reading or Forest? He wouldn't be in my top 3 Rbs this season MA has got the BCFC marketing machine going well with Lj on radio, Hörður centrefold in Daily Telegraph today. Must be something to do with management merry-go-round season! Apart from that he has found d us millions in talent with JK, Tammy, Diedhou - yet another of SLs good appointments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 10 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: See my post above Kev Pisano is decent , better than Ayling ? Not so sure but there we are, but we at least have a decent RB when fit Otherwise I'm with you despite the rubbish tags you've had thrown in your direction (Wonder how many of those heard the interview or LJs previous comments on the matter ) LJ and MA believed they had a 'Rolls Royce' in Matthews and were happy to offload Ayling Crap decision knowing Matthews latter history post Cardiff but there we are Whats annoyed me is not for the first time bullshit is in full swing and what's worse is MA is happy to taint a decent player for us in LA with what clearly are lies , or to put it another way all three differing accounts can't all be right Doesnt do those in charge may favours Just put your hands up you made a decision that was in hindsight a poor one and cut the lies n spin MA also praised Flint tonight about keeping his lips tight in transfer window and then claimed they had done the same Funny , but I was sure we had been told 'Adens head has been turned' Annoys me massively - spin merchants or should it be liars That is one thing that does annoy me about LJ. He should just keep shtum… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 18 hours ago, Major Isewater said: Radio Insolent . Don't be rude Major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otib118 Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 28 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: That is one thing that does annoy me about LJ. He should just keep shtum… Trouble is when he or anyone in the club tries to do that everyone then has a go At them for lack of communication! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Had a listen last night. You were right @BobBobSuperBob, GT really pushed Ashton on a few issues. I got the impression GT doesn’t have that much time for him really and finds him a little odd. He even pushed him on his new ‘CEO’ job title. Think Geoff finds him a bit pretentious and perculiar - probably prefers more straight talking football men. I’ve defended Ashton on here but I can see why people are suspicious of him. He’s corporate and comes across as a bit fake and there were a few red flags for me yesterday - the comments on Ayling for example were out of step with other things we’ve heard. Overall he’s probably great at dealing with agents and board members - but there’s something about him I can’t totally trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 I didn't hear the MA interview so can't comment on the content but reading thru this thread it seems that some posters are critical of what he said. The word "spin" crops up written in a negative manner and I wonder why some are so critical of "spin". Thats what all senior employees at AG do. It's part of their job to portray that they are professionals who know what they're doing and that the club is in safe hands. You won't hear any of them say anything that might portray the club in a negative light. Call it "spin" and corporate speech all you want but what else did anyone expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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