DaveInSA Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Having not seen much in the way of games, from what I have seen we need a bit more nous and strength in midfield. Many will be baying for my blood when I say Flint won’t make it. He is an absolute colossus of a player, great at this level, but positionally he is sometimes naive, which with the speed and quality of the prem could be an issue. Although, taking nothing away from the lad he’s adapted to the us level, he should be given a chance to prove himself at the top tier. Premier league journeymen aren’t what we need. Geez, the number of times I swore at Gary Owers for just not having the pace to go box to box was astounding. He is not the player we need. i can see us going offshore. We have the set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 3 hours ago, 1bristolcity said: I honestly think arguably we are the best team outside the Prem at the moment, well maybe not the best assembled squad but the way we approach a game and the never say die approach and of course we have LJ. We have beaten Cardiff, and drawn with Wolves so that might support my theory to some extent.Oh! an add beating Watford and Stoke too and the upcoming Man U too, I guess we might be already Prem ready, and with just a little sprinkling of some extra goodies no reason to think otherwise. So Tam and Levelller rubbish this post but chose not to add any reply, sometimes I wonder if we deserve a Prem team at all with some of the sh1te support on offer. Perhaps they should support the likes of Thatch. We are on the cusp of something special, and yet there is still so much negativity. So come on tell us why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 50 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Table doesn’t lie - they’ve been better than us so far. Routine bottlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 5 hours ago, spudski said: ... would you want the Promotion winning squad of lads given a chance to shine in the Prem...or bring in more recruits in the summer? Tough call? I know it's getting ahead of ourselves...but it's something that crossed my mind this morning, when considering bringing in any new recruits during the January window. A tough call for any manager in our present position...buy to get promoted, or buy for the Prem? Take into consideration injuries, contracts, budget, league position etc....a lot to think about. I'd keep doing exactly what we're doing now....the recruitment 'ethos' is absolutely spot on at the moment IMO Yes, if we got promoted of course we'd be spending £10m + on players. Even the likes of Watford and Palace do that these days. But I'd hope they'd be players with potential and future value to the football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 23 minutes ago, DaveInSA said: Having not seen much in the way of games, from what I have seen we need a bit more nous and strength in midfield. Many will be baying for my blood when I say Flint won’t make it. He is an absolute colossus of a player, great at this level, but positionally he is sometimes naive, which with the speed and quality of the prem could be an issue. Although, taking nothing away from the lad he’s adapted to the us level, he should be given a chance to prove himself at the top tier. Premier league journeymen aren’t what we need. Geez, the number of times I swore at Gary Owers for just not having the pace to go box to box was astounding. He is not the player we need. i can see us going offshore. We have the set up. I felt the same about Flint when he might have gone, but now I think some of his shortcomings is counterbalanced by his attitude and downright will to win at all costs. And that to me is priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: I'd keep doing exactly what we're doing now....the recruitment 'ethos' is absolutely spot on at the moment IMO Yes, if we got promoted of course we'd be spending £10m + on players. Even the likes of Watford and Palace do that these days. But I'd hope they'd be players with potential and future value to the football club. I used to say that if we got promoted I`d hope we wouldn`t just get in a lot of unheard-of Eastern Europeans because we felt it was expected of us. Now I wouldn`t mind if we did because I know we`ll have done our due diligence and got them for a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 12 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: I'd keep doing exactly what we're doing now....the recruitment 'ethos' is absolutely spot on at the moment IMO Yes, if we got promoted of course we'd be spending £10m + on players. Even the likes of Watford and Palace do that these days. But I'd hope they'd be players with potential and future value to the football club. I agree. I couldn't be happier with the way the club is now being run and structured - the philosophy, the type of players the spirit that seems to run through the club and not just the team. Many joke or deride the DNA issue, but i think it is key to make sure that players "fit in" not just within the team and other players but the club as a whole. If we should be promoted we will obviously be looking at a higher level of player in monetary value, but I think the same principles should be maintained. I am convinced our model will be the right way for many clubs in the future - other than the massively wealthy clubs at the top of the tree, who will hopefully b****r off to a European super league before too long,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, downendcity said: Many joke or deride the DNA issue, but i think it is key . A lot of people derided a lot of things - mainly because they saw it as management speak and meaningless bollocks and was being said by `suits` who they disliked purely because of that. They don`t seem to be going on about it quite so much nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 5 hours ago, wendyredredrobin said: We would need a new GK. Much as I like Frankie. Does Steele have the potential I think he has? Our defence should survive if all fit but need quality cover. Patto, Josh, Korey & COD may all be OK but need cover. Eliason not up to it yet and Marlon not Premiership I'm afraid. Would need a quality striker unless we intend playing with a false no. 9. Potential? He is 4 years older than Frankie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said: I'd keep doing exactly what we're doing now....the recruitment 'ethos' is absolutely spot on at the moment IMO Yes, if we got promoted of course we'd be spending £10m + on players. Even the likes of Watford and Palace do that these days. But I'd hope they'd be players with potential and future value to the football club. I totally agree mate. I wouldn't want journeyman Prem players with 'Experience'....those going from Club to Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 46 minutes ago, petehinton said: Potential? He is 4 years older than Frankie Haha. I keep forgetting that he is as old as that, but from what ive seen, he seems a decent keeper with great distribution compared to Frankie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: Jody Morris anyone? Ha. Wouldn't pass the attitude test. Gary O'Neill type attitude (though better at injury recovery). I'd love to see Julian Speroni at AG (I know he's late 30's but a helluva 'keeper). I'd also wonder about Johnny Evans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 34 minutes ago, spudski said: I totally agree mate. I wouldn't want journeyman Prem players with 'Experience'....those going from Club to Club. whilst I understand that, I wouldn't want us to be torn an extra ass because we lack PL "know how". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 I would hope Garita gets a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 24 minutes ago, Sweeneys Penalties said: whilst I understand that, I wouldn't want us to be torn an extra ass because we lack PL "know how". It's an interesting thought.... I'd rather try doing it a different way, as we are doing in this league. I speak to friends at Burnley, WBA, Stoke and they all say the same thing...playing in the Prem is less entertaining than it is in the Championship. All teams outside of the top 6 playing in such a similar way. A win at all costs attitude takes over. The majority have said they preferred their time in the Championship. It's a catch 22...we want the Club to achieve and play at the highest level, but at what cost. It's a sobering thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 12 minutes ago, spudski said: It's an interesting thought.... I'd rather try doing it a different way, as we are doing in this league. I speak to friends at Burnley, WBA, Stoke and they all say the same thing...playing in the Prem is less entertaining than it is in the Championship. All teams outside of the top 6 playing in such a similar way. A win at all costs attitude takes over. The majority have said they preferred their time in the Championship. It's a catch 22...we want the Club to achieve and play at the highest level, but at what cost. It's a sobering thought. I quite believe. I live on the Hants/Wilts border these days and take occasional trips to St Marys. Their kick off times (because of their Premier league staus) gets shifted round enormously. I cant help but like Saints. they have quite a template, and we'd do well to follow. However.... they will never get top 6 status etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED4LIFE Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 48 minutes ago, Sweeneys Penalties said: I'd also wonder about Johnny Evans The same Jonny Evans that Man City and other top level sides are interested in signing? Didn't Man City have a £30m bid turned down this summer? I like your positivity but I would suggest he is way above our level even if we do get promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 minute ago, RED4LIFE said: The same Jonny Evans that Man City and other top level sides are interested in signing? Didn't Man City have a £30m bid turned down this summer? I like your positivity but I would suggest he is way above our level even if we do get promoted. really? £30 mill? I like him but I wouldnt support paying £30mill for the ****** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED4LIFE Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Just now, Sweeneys Penalties said: really? £30 mill? I like him but I wouldnt support paying £30mill for the ****** Yeah, I'm pretty sure they bid that but West Brom refused to sell. I think I read Arsenal are interested too. Great player but way out of our league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 13 minutes ago, spudski said: It's an interesting thought.... I'd rather try doing it a different way, as we are doing in this league. I speak to friends at Burnley, WBA, Stoke and they all say the same thing...playing in the Prem is less entertaining than it is in the Championship. All teams outside of the top 6 playing in such a similar way. A win at all costs attitude takes over. The majority have said they preferred their time in the Championship. It's a catch 22...we want the Club to achieve and play at the highest level, but at what cost. It's a sobering thought. I often think the same and of the time we have spent in this league over the last few seasons I have always thought that anyone can beat anyone which makes the Championship so exciting. With the Prem it’s all about the top 6 and the rest are fighting over the scraps, the only exception being Leicester and that freak season. The measure of success for most clubs is staying in the league. I would be overjoyed at achieving promotion to the top division but who knows after that. After watching the quality of football of the top clubs it would be an achievement not to concede a hatful each week or perhaps LJ has a cunning plan to get us into Europe in our first season??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Am I the only one who isnt that fussed about getting to the prem? I quite enjoy my Saturday afternoons out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 9 hours ago, ZiderEyed said: I reckon a good proportion of our first team, based on their performances this season, could cut it against most of the PL sides. think what happened when we came up after smashing league 1, we all or at least most of us thought that nearly all our players would at least hold their own if not better, I for one did not realise what a jump in standard it was and i'm pretty sure it is at least that much a step up again, some of our current squad have indeed made the leap from league one to the championship but it took a while for some of them, I have no doubt at least 5 of our current first team could do it, how long it would take them to get up to speed I don't know, there is no room for sentiment in the cut throat business that is the premier league and I would hope we would be ruthless in our ambition to stay there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 hour ago, frenchred said: Am I the only one who isnt that fussed about getting to the prem? I quite enjoy my Saturday afternoons out! I think for many clubs the journey to the top league is much more fun than arriving. I am very very happy being competitive in this league. Going up, unless we really balls it up, should mean we are at least competitive if we come down again. I enjoy this league. Of course would love the excitement of promotion, but do not see it as everything it is cracked up to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 9 hours ago, Tammys Scan said: Get Tammy back sorry disagree, beginning to think tammy is a very good championship striker, not so sure if he will cut it at the highest level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 6 hours ago, pillred said: sorry disagree, beginning to think tammy is a very good championship striker, not so sure if he will cut it at the highest level. it's all a learning curve. He'll be better next season than this. There's not so much a gap between the Championship and the Premier League as an Ocean. It's a very different world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 Wishing to get carried away there is always the chance we will not follow any model, do it our own way and become the new unlikely force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, havanatopia said: Wishing to get carried away there is always the chance we will not follow any model, do it our own way and become the new unlikely force. The new unlikely force , I like that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Mao Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 8 hours ago, pillred said: sorry disagree, beginning to think tammy is a very good championship striker, not so sure if he will cut it at the highest level. He's scored 5-6 goals for probably the worst side in the Premier League. I'd have him back in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 Glaring mistake by Tammy on Saturday when he chipped it wide with only keeper to beat and an onside colleague alongside who would have walked it in if Tammy had passed it sideways. And the same scenario by Sane of Liverpool yesterday. Strikers can be too selfish to the detriment of the team at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Chairman Mao said: He's scored 5-6 goals for probably the worst side in the Premier League. I'd have him back in a heartbeat. yes he was a good fit for us, sometimes that's how it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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