TETBURY MASSIVE Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Galley is our king said: Well let's hope it doesn't come to that, you have your views and I have mine. If you don't think @JulieH adds anything or you don't trust the information, just put her on ignore. You obviously have no respect for her or the police in general, but some of us do and are more than happy with her on this forum. Have a poll? Do me a favour, just how accurate do you think the result would be? Like I said, just ignore and let the rest of us carry on reading her posts and receiving helpful advice from her. Simple really. You must be a policeman.... Where have I said you cant have a view? So @JulieH makes a statement about staying or leaving... I make a suggestion on how to find out the feeling on if she should be on here or not.... (her statement not mine) and now your telling me what I should do and not do.... your as bad as her! So you want her here... and that's what we should all want...... amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Galley is our king said: Why does it have to be one or the other? Like I said, if you don't like it, ignore it! I dont personally want her on here, and that appears to be an opinion shared by many others. A forum being a so called democracy, I think a vote would be excellent, and would hopefully give a message to the Robocops who bully fans with impunity. If the vote is in favour of keeping her, then I will use the ignore as you suggest or go elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevP Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 50 minutes ago, Loon plage said: I suspect the ob knows exactly how things work, including its frontperson on here, who as you correctly noted now seems able to spout shit without any reaction from other forum members. Ive run out of likes etc today but this....is spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley is our king Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 minute ago, TETBURY MASSIVE said: You must be a policeman.... Where have I said you cant have a view? So @JulieH makes a statement about staying or leaving... I make a suggestion on how to find out the feeling on if she should be on here or not.... (her statement not mine) and now your telling me what I should do and not do.... your as bad as her! So you want her here... and that's what we should all want...... amazing. Unbelievable, I have NOT told you what to do, I just suggested that if you don't like it, ignore it! Just because she is on here, doesn't mean you have to read her posts. You are trying to generate a situation where she leaves this forum, so actually YOU are trying to dictate what what I can and cannot read. Me a policeman? No, just no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevP Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 42 minutes ago, TETBURY MASSIVE said: @JulieH Please confirm in writing...... that you stand by your statement, that if we run a poll and it is deemed you should leave, you will do that?! Sssshhhhh......wait for it.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 One of things I've always thought marked OTIB out as one of the best forums is the direct link to the various officials who work with and for the club. People aren't always going to welcome or agree with the things they have to say but I'd rather hear it and make my own mind up than throw people out. Blimey, if we started a vote every time we disagreed with a poster it would be a very quiet forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dicks' Barmy Army Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 hours ago, JulieH said: the offender was a repeat football offender and I know South Wales police were disappointed with the sentence as was the steward. Then there has to be a degree of blame at the police and stewards at Cardiff etc that this supporter was not stopped getting into the ground? Cut off the source and there is no problem 2 hours ago, JulieH said: I am at a loss to think that city fans on here truly believe that the police knew disorder would increase as a result of reduced allocation. I wonder where the police and the sag thought that these supporters would go? Were they misguided with the trains not running all the way that people would simple not make the journey? There is nothing illegal about being in Cardiff or even around the ground on the day - worrying that people can't forsee any problems 1 hour ago, TETBURY MASSIVE said: Simple Question..... why oh why are the Police allowed on this forum? She brings nothing to the table and it is nothing more than a spying exercise....!! And now we cant react to her posts.... typical police cover up. @TETBURY MASSIVE do you honestly think that Julie is the only police officer to be on this forum? Whether she has an account or not it is still an open forum / a person could logon under any name Surely having the chance to engage in debate is better than nothing at all? I love the last line above that is signs of REAL paranoia against the police, from reading above it seems it is something the admin team had done on here? For all your bravado on here, why not call her bluff and go and meet face to face and see what it is all about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Midlands Robin said: One of things I've always thought marked OTIB out as one of the best forums is the direct link to the various officials who work with and for the club. People aren't always going to welcome or agree with the things they have to say but I'd rather hear it and make my own mind up than throw people out. Blimey, if we started a vote every time we disagreed with a poster it would be a very quiet forum. With respect MR this is not a poster in the normal sense of the word. This is a representative of an authority which is disadvantaging football fans all over the country, and we have seen particular incidents in and around our own ground recently which makes it clear that A&SP and their mates Heddlu, WMP etc have their own agenda. From what I can see, the hostility towards her and hers comes from a broad range of forum members, and my personal view is that we do not need OB on this forum as she simply toes the party line or plain ignores direct questions.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Alan Dicks' Barmy Army said: @TETBURY MASSIVE do you honestly think that Julie is the only police officer to be on this forum? Whether she has an account or not it is still an open forum / a person could logon under any name Surely having the chance to engage in debate is better than nothing at all? I love the last line above that is signs of REAL paranoia against the police, from reading above it seems it is something the admin team had done on here? For all your bravado on here, why not call her bluff and go and meet face to face and see what it is all about? Nicely balanced post and of course she isn't the only copper on here. I maintain however that the official acceptance of an organisation which has an agenda against football supporters should cease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan djurichimovic Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 hours ago, JulieH said: Don’t know why that has happened, I always look forward to my rubbish and snake reactions. Perhaps dolly Marie may be able to reactivate? With respect to you after 18 years policing football alone I am in a position to say that disorder increases with the risk of away fans in home areas, it happens and the police and clubs will do all we can to try and stop it before the game . Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley is our king Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 18 minutes ago, Loon plage said: I dont personally want her on here, and that appears to be an opinion shared by many others. A forum being a so called democracy, I think a vote would be excellent, and would hopefully give a message to the Robocops who bully fans with impunity. If the vote is in favour of keeping her, then I will use the ignore as you suggest or go elsewhere So what your saying is, I don't want to read what she has to say and I don't want anyone else reading it either whether they want to or not! And you talk about democracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 hour ago, JulieH said: Again as replied to you before I answer questions asked by fans . When the fans say they don’t want me on here in an offcial capacity then I will leave the forum is public , I don’t need to be on here officially to spy, it’s called fan engagement and actually I enjoy trying to help football fans, and meeting those from the forum at games. you have your opinion on me tetbury but I can assure you my knowledge and experience of policing in football is better than yours! I have previously given you the option of a ride along with football officers which you declined so at this point I think we will agree to disagree on my performance . There's a surprise, not the first time he's bottled a face-to-face meeting ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TETBURY MASSIVE Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 19 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: There's a surprise, not the first time he's bottled a face-to-face meeting ! Says the bloke that didn' turn up.... sorry Will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieH Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 hour ago, SX227 said: And darts. Don't forget the darts. Great days back then - not. I have 100% confidence that Heddlu and A+S want disorder to make this a permanent bubble. I have great respect for the Police - but my god, you blokes really like to mix it up at the Football. Genuine question - how many Bristol/South Wales Police are working overtime for this game? None from Avon and Somerset, cancelled rest days for 2 of us the other 2 are on lates . you will need to ask swp the question as I don’t know for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 17 minutes ago, Galley is our king said: So what your saying is, I don't want to read what she has to say and I don't want anyone else reading it either whether they want to or not! And you talk about democracy Hmmm. What i'm saying, and i'm sure you realise that by the way, is that IF a majority of forum members do not wish for a representative of a certain organisation to be present on that fans forum, then that organisation shouldn't be on it. In a football context, the A&SP couldn't be further from democracy being neither fair minded nor accountable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 48 minutes ago, TETBURY MASSIVE said: You must be a policeman.... Where have I said you cant have a view? So @JulieH makes a statement about staying or leaving... I make a suggestion on how to find out the feeling on if she should be on here or not.... (her statement not mine) and now your telling me what I should do and not do.... your as bad as her! So you want her here... and that's what we should all want...... amazing. have you had a bad experience with the police?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 7, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Loon plage said: Hmmm. What i'm saying, and i'm sure you realise that by the way, is that IF a majority of forum members do not wish for a representative of a certain organisation to be present on that fans forum, then that organisation shouldn't be on it. In a football context, the A&SP couldn't be further from democracy being neither fair minded nor accountable. Is it not down to the Supporters Club and Trust who run this site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TETBURY MASSIVE Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Super said: have you had a bad experience with the police?! Have you ever met @Fordy62..... that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieH Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 hour ago, TETBURY MASSIVE said: Will you come to the factory for a day so I can show you how to make a new house for a snake? Answer this....... why would I wanna go to work all week to then go to a game with a load of Police to see how "Footballing Police Games" work? I see how the Police work every game......! Police cover up...... "Boss.. Boss... I am sorted on the forum...... I tell them exactly how it is I don't even answer their questions" More than happy to come and experience the reptile house making Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 I see no reason why Julie should leave tbh. At least we have someone from the police engaging with fans- something that perhaps wasn't the case in the past. She is clearly restricted in what she can say, as is only natural in such a role. Sensitive info or specific info her higher ups won't want released into the public domain. Anyway even if she left...the club read this site, anyone can as it's an open forum- police surely DO read the site regardless of Julie, especially given it's an open forum. Would be worse IMO if she left and police just read the open forum anyway (which they surely do), just gaining info, gleaning info- would be the easiest thing in the world in such a setup. All that said, I think she- or more likely by extension, the police and SAG- have got this one badly wrong and they are playing a dangerous game with these restrictions in a ground that is by no means guaranteed to be a sellout, relatively close geographical proximity and of course the derby/promotion clash factor. Maybe this view won't be popular but I'd rather have someone from the police engaging with supporters than not at all. It could and should be better but it's a start (hopefully). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieH Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 hour ago, TETBURY MASSIVE said: @JulieH Please confirm in writing...... that you stand by your statement, that if we run a poll and it is deemed you should leave, you will do that?! Yes of course I will . just ensure the poll is a fair representation of fans on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, TETBURY MASSIVE said: Says the bloke that didn' turn up.... sorry Will. Your presence was requested at El Rincon after you made homophobic remarks on this forum and you never showed up... Once again you are being shown up for the cyber bully boy that you are! Tragic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TETBURY MASSIVE Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Kid in the Riot said: Your presence was requested at El Rincon after you made homophobic remarks on this forum and you never showed up... Once again you are being shown up for the cyber bully boy that you are! Tragic Brilliant.... of course I am.... I thought you had me on ignore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, phantom said: Is it not down to the Supporters Club and Trust who run this site? No idea mate. I suspect there's a lot of official support for the police to be sat on this forum, but i'm not entirley sure that's the view of the majority of the members, hence someones suggestion that it was put to a vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, JulieH said: Yes of course I will . just ensure the poll is a fair representation of fans on here You mean the majority vote ? Councillors get voted in on a few hundred votes representing constituencies of thousands. Thats deemed a fair representation, being those who can be arsed to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 A poll to see if someone should stay on here? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Your presence was requested at El Rincon after you made homophobic remarks on this forum and you never showed up... Once again you are being shown up for the cyber bully boy that you are! Tragic Nothing to do with this thread with respect KITR/TM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Super said: A poll to see if someone should stay on here? Seriously? Not someone Super, an organisation. I think that's different . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 This thread is like reading the comments section on a Daily Mail Brexit story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TETBURY MASSIVE Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Loon plage said: Nothing to do with this thread with respect KITR/TM Fair point. I will make no further comment on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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