EmissionImpossible Posted September 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 They really do mess Moeen about. Making this change in the middle of a test is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 Well Mo at 3 has failed now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted September 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, hodge said: Well Mo at 3 has failed now Quite frankly it’s ridiculous, you get picked, told you’re batting 6 or 7 then get shoved up to 3 because Root is out of form. Make the decision before the game or not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, EmissionImpossible said: Quite frankly it’s ridiculous, you get picked, told you’re batting 6 or 7 then get shoved up to 3 because Root is out of form. Make the decision before the game or not at all. Think its more desperation by England to be in another other situation than 40-3 odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted September 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, hodge said: Think its more desperation by England to be in another other situation than 40-3 odd I understand that but Root needs to take responsibility and Moeen wants to bat 3 and Root wants to bat 4, make that decision before the game. They knew the batting order was struggling prior to the game. Also, god knows why Ishant has 2 warnings. Root poking away at his foot holes certainly exacerbated the matter. Root needs to score big here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted September 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 Vince in for Bairstow? He can’t play just as a batsman. Weirdly I quite like the look of Jennings, even though he’s done nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 55 minutes ago, EmissionImpossible said: Hildreth in for Bairstow In reality I'd take Ian Bell in a heartbeat, Rory Burns in for Cook as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 You muppets, Root run out and it looked like he wasn't exactly steaming down the other end to get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, hodge said: You muppets, Root run out and it looked like he wasn't exactly steaming down the other end to get in. Bloody good throw but why go for the run in the first place? This will be over before we kick off against Blackburn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted September 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, hodge said: In reality I'd take Ian Bell in a heartbeat, Rory Burns in for Cook as well. I still wouldn’t drop Cook. But yes Ian Bell or Vince. Depends what they decide to do with Moeen. I know there’s a lot of Bess , Hildreth and Leach goggles on OTIB but I think the only one who has a sniff and maybe deserves a place is Hildreth but.....Ian Bells better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, EmissionImpossible said: I still wouldn’t drop Cook. But yes Ian Bell or Vince. Depends what they decide to do with Moeen. I know there’s a lot of Bess , Hildreth and Leach goggles on OTIB but I think the only one who has a sniff and maybe deserves a place is Hildreth but.....Ian Bells better. Cook has had an awful summer, think he's averaging around 15, even before then he wasn't averaging a big amount probably mid 30's. He's coming towards the end of his run and we should be looking at players who are in form now. I think Leach deserves another shot at the test team, missed out through injury rather than being dropped. I'd have him over Rashid. Wouldn't pick Vince, he's had so many chances and always gets out the same way, bowlers know how to get him out at test level. Potentially another Ramps/Hick, potential to be a great county player but unable to step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 If England can get a lead anywhere near 200 think they will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 I think 200-220 will be a tough ask for India. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 hours ago, hodge said: Cook has had an awful summer, think he's averaging around 15, even before then he wasn't averaging a big amount probably mid 30's. He's coming towards the end of his run and we should be looking at players who are in form now. I think Leach deserves another shot at the test team, missed out through injury rather than being dropped. I'd have him over Rashid. Wouldn't pick Vince, he's had so many chances and always gets out the same way, bowlers know how to get him out at test level. Potentially another Ramps/Hick, potential to be a great county player but unable to step up. They were making the point on TMS in the week that Root perhaps has too many senior players in the side to be able to captain effectively. They were saying he almost feels he has to check every decision with Cook, Anderson or Broad before making it. Personally I think he got the captaincy too soon - remember when Sir Ian got given it too early in his career, it nearly broke him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 I'd like to know how much pressure was put on Root to have Stokes straight back into a winning, settled side. Stokes might be a good player but after 5 days in court and irrespective of the judgement it was a risk they didn't need to take. I'd trying to imagine the cosy chat between Root and Stokes to see if he was mentally ready to be selected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 Curran doing a good job again here. Very good from Jos as well. Gonna be some day tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 Thank god our lower order is decent. If we could sort the top 4 out we’d be amongst the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 26 minutes ago, Tomarse said: Thank god our lower order is decent. If we could sort the top 4 out we’d be amongst the best At home maybe. God help our bowling on any tours away from home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Midred said: I'd like to know how much pressure was put on Root to have Stokes straight back into a winning, settled side. Stokes might be a good player but after 5 days in court and irrespective of the judgement it was a risk they didn't need to take. I'd trying to imagine the cosy chat between Root and Stokes to see if he was mentally ready to be selected? The fact Curran was dropped to accommodate him was a joke in itself, with ball and bat Curran was doing better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted September 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 7 hours ago, hodge said: Cook has had an awful summer, think he's averaging around 15, even before then he wasn't averaging a big amount probably mid 30's. He's coming towards the end of his run and we should be looking at players who are in form now. I think Leach deserves another shot at the test team, missed out through injury rather than being dropped. I'd have him over Rashid. Wouldn't pick Vince, he's had so many chances and always gets out the same way, bowlers know how to get him out at test level. Potentially another Ramps/Hick, potential to be a great county player but unable to step up. Personally I would have left the captaincy with Cook as I think he enjoys it. I think away from home that Leach starts but at home with the variation that Ali and Rashid offer, they will win far more games. I agree with your views on Vince but I like the way he plays and with how he’s played recently I think he’s a better bat than Bairstow. The only way Bairstow should play is if he’s keeping wicket and batting at 6/7. However, Buttler is doing that and better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 9 hours ago, EmissionImpossible said: Personally I would have left the captaincy with Cook as I think he enjoys it. I think away from home that Leach starts but at home with the variation that Ali and Rashid offer, they will win far more games. I agree with your views on Vince but I like the way he plays and with how he’s played recently I think he’s a better bat than Bairstow. The only way Bairstow should play is if he’s keeping wicket and batting at 6/7. However, Buttler is doing that and better. Last week aside Leach hasn’t had that great a season. Bess even poorer. Vince reminds me of the elegance of Bell - with Bell we had to persist to begin with. Remember how bad he was in ashes 2005? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted September 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 55 minutes ago, Tomarse said: Last week aside Leach hasn’t had that great a season. Bess even poorer. Vince reminds me of the elegance of Bell - with Bell we had to persist to begin with. Remember how bad he was in ashes 2005? England will play two spinners for a fair bit of the winter tours, so Leach will go and from what I saw in the test match, Bess as a spinner doesn’t cut it quite yet. To be fair to England, I can see (like with Bell) why they persist with Vince, you can’t expect a huge conveyor belt of players from county cricket, it produces players but by no means the finished articles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 Well that was a good start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted September 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 This is a cracker of a test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 5 to go for Jimmy to overtake McGrath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 3rd umpire has had a shocker. Poor decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 Watch Virat go make 150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 Nasser has hit nail on head, why can't the third umpire ask on field umpire why he gave it not out, if for hitting it then fair enough as its very hard to call that but if it were for hitting outside or missing then it should be given out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 Why is hotspot not being used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Super said: Why is hotspot not being used? Could be wrong but thought it wasn't included in DRS because all countries didn't use it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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