Spike Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Southampton didn’t get relegated...they are a premier league club.... Been pointed out and I've replied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacki Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 hour ago, RedM said: This is exactly right. The players are bailing out of the project as they haven’t got faith in it anymore. Started with the January business and festered throughout the remaining games. Came to a head at one of the Easter games, Brentford and now we see the results. I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. Flint, Reid and most likely Bryan and Pack have all seen through the nonsense spouted by Ashton and co and want out. I just hope whoever we’re trying to bring in aren’t as aware of what’s going on here.... we could end up in real trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: I don’t hate Warnock, I know plenty of Bristol City fans who admire him as a person and for his record....don’t fall for the media persona and hype... But it's not all hype, is it? Forgetting his wind-up press interviews and self-promoting or self-pitying match analysis, he's a manager who consistently encourages his players to cheat, time waste, foul and play a generally negative game off football. And he's done it at every club he manages. Regardless of whether he prospers or not, I just don't like that sort of behaviour. It may be widespread, but it's ruining football IMO and in this country, he's its prime exponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Ashton Red Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 10 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: I don’t hate Warnock, I know plenty of Bristol City fans who admire him as a person and for his record....don’t fall for the media persona and hype... 1 hour ago, Always Ashton Red said: I believe whilst he is Cardiff manager he is just a colin. But nobody can doubt his ability to get the most out of a mediocre team, or infact majority of his signings. Awful football, but none the less a winner. But yes... i still hate him. As i replied to somebody else. I have no doubt in his ability as a manager, or his record as a manager. In fact I agree that I admire what he does with clubs. So actually I haven't fallen for any "Hype" or "Media Persona". I just dislike him as a person for his general antics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 Taylor is no replacement- he's an okay squad player perhaps, having as he does the ability to provide assists as well as goals (see 16/17 as well as that one to Smith). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 42 minutes ago, Spike said: As good as in my eyes, point still stands, gone from a top half of the table team to a team relying on others to be worse than they are. Staying up in the premier league is ‘as good as being relegated’ - that’s a whole new kind of U-turn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: But it's not all hype, is it? Forgetting his wind-up press interviews and self-promoting or self-pitying match analysis, he's a manager who consistently encourages his players to cheat, time waste, foul and play a generally negative game off football. And he's done it at every club he manages. Regardless of whether he prospers or not, I just don't like that sort of behaviour. It may be widespread, but it's ruining football IMO and in this country, he's its prime exponent. I totally get the dislike for Warnock - but I haven’t seen any evidence that he encourages his players to cheat and has done so at every club he’s managed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, Always Ashton Red said: As i replied to somebody else. I have no doubt in his ability as a manager, or his record as a manager. In fact I agree that I admire what he does with clubs. So actually I haven't fallen for any "Hype" or "Media Persona". I just dislike him as a person for his general antics. His ‘general antics’ are part of the well-rehearsed media persona....strong to say you ‘dislike him as a person’ .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 If we get £10m for Reid and, better still, if Cardiff think they've bought a striker we should all be breaking into renditions of The Laughing Policeman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 At first it filled me with rage to think that Bobby could join Cardiff, but it seems a good move for us because he is out of contract next season and a good move for Bob to play in the Premiership and not have to move home. Unfortunately its the price we pay for a bad January transfer window, we had a chance to push for promotion but didn't buy enough quality. I am sure Bob would of preferred to play for his home town club in the Premiership... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 minute ago, BS4 on Tour... said: I totally get the dislike for Warnock - but I haven’t seen any evidence that he encourages his players to cheat and has done so at every club he’s managed... I've seen it every time we play a Warnock club. It is true there was less of it than usual v Cardiff at AG last season, but that's largely because they were chasing the result and at the sheepshaggers he was working with more talented players than he usually helms. For the ultimate Warnck experience I'd remind you of City v Rotherham two seasons ago..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Staying up in the premier league is ‘as good as being relegated’ - that’s a whole new kind of U-turn! Just means I think it's only a matter of time, not that they're the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaspberryRed Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 17 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: But it's not all hype, is it? Forgetting his wind-up press interviews and self-promoting or self-pitying match analysis, he's a manager who consistently encourages his players to cheat, time waste, foul and play a generally negative game off football. And he's done it at every club he manages. Regardless of whether he prospers or not, I just don't like that sort of behaviour. It may be widespread, but it's ruining football IMO and in this country, he's its prime exponent. Correct. I'm sure he must of advised some of the Nations at this World Cup, as they certainly are playing his brand of football! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryans Left Peg Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 Remember the hysteria when we lost Maynard, Kodjia, even Tammy despite the fact he was a loanee too. I'm delighted with 10m for Bobby and I'm not going to start slating the transfer window/club until the new season's underway and we see what business has been done and how we are performing. Some of you really need to get a grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Ashton Red Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 Just now, BS4 on Tour... said: His ‘general antics’ are part of the well-rehearsed media persona....strong to say you ‘dislike him as a person’ .... Why is that strong to say? His general persona on the touchline... the bullying antics towards officials, the time wasting. Be that what you think is a "well-rehearsed media persona". You really do not have to search very far to find these. Including his press conference as Rotherham Manager a few years back. Hes a utter cock and I dislike him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 Two good deals for two of our top players . The ace in the pack is we’ve got Marley Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtonwurzel Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 AA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodiesaffer Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 46 minutes ago, Bs4Red said: Great move for Bobby and much deserved after a great season. Whether it’s to Cardiff or Man Utd the lure of PL football is enough for anyone. Also think a massive shoutout to LJ who had made a player whose value was circa 250k this time last year dramatically increase and gain the club 10m. Hoping we find a suitable replacement but it certainly isn’t doom and gloom seeing as we have 20m+ to spend now Spot on. Show’s Johnson’s knows what he’s doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 20 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: I've seen it every time we play a Warnock club. It is true there was less of it than usual v Cardiff at AG last season, but that's largely because they were chasing the result and at the sheepshaggers he was working with more talented players than he usually helms. For the ultimate Warnck experience I'd remind you of City v Rotherham two seasons ago..... Like I said, I get the dislike of NW, just don’t agree with it....he holds the record for the most promotions in this country (and Wales!) and has never been found guilty of making his teams cheat...anyway, the whole Warnock thing has been done to death on here...I’m happy to agree to disagree and get on with worrying about whether our recruitment record can improve now we are shipping out our best players.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 21 minutes ago, Bryans Left Peg said: Remember the hysteria when we lost Maynard, Kodjia, even Tammy despite the fact he was a loanee too. I'm delighted with 10m for Bobby and I'm not going to start slating the transfer window/club until the new season's underway and we see what business has been done and how we are performing. Some of you really need to get a grip. Tord is retired and 80years old ffs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undy English Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 4 hours ago, red84 said: Just goes to show you about loyalty in football. Anyone from Bristol who was a true fan of City would not sign for Cardiff. Bobby does not go with my best wishes!! Without trying to have a go mate, football fans are extremely guilty on having warped views on 'loyalty'. Football is a business and footballers mere employees. Just like us in our own careers, footballers are always looking for better opportunities and money and are happy to move on should a better offer come along. After all, they only have a limited time frame in the game (most don't last much after 35yrs old) so they need to make as much as they can whilst they can. Now and again you get players like your Gerrards, Tottis etc. who are club men and would never leave, but in this day and age they are in the minority. So long as the player has given their all and left on good terms that benefit the club, you can't hope for much more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Like I said, I get the dislike of NW, just don’t agree with it....he holds the record for the most promotions in this country (and Wales!) and has never been found guilty of making his teams cheat...anyway, the whole Warnock thing has been done to death on here...I’m happy to agree to disagree and get on with worrying about whether our recruitment record can improve now we are shipping out our best players.... Maradona has never been found guilty of cheating either. Means nowt. The evidence is our own eyes. As for the "pantomime villain" persona he promotes away from the touchline, we can both agree to take that with a pinch of salt. There are far bigger ***** in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 I don’t see how anyone would resent the Lad. Cardiff would pay him low end Premier League wages - what’s that ? 30 k a week ?? on a three yr contract that’s 5 million quid - it will set him up for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryans Left Peg Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, Undy English said: Without trying to have a go mate, football fans are extremely guilty on having warped views on 'loyalty'. Football is a business and footballers mere employees. Just like us in our own careers, footballers are always looking for better opportunities and money and are happy to move on should a better offer come along. After all, they only have a limited time frame in the game (most don't last much after 35yrs old) so they need to make as much as they can whilst they can. Now and again you get players like your Gerrards, Tottis etc. who are club men and would never leave, but in this day and age they are in the minority. So long as the player has given their all and left on good terms that benefit the club, you can't hope for much more than that. Also there's the simple matter that Reid isn't a Bristol City fan. He's a huge Liverpool supporter. It's the same as us leaving our jobs to go to a competitor who's offering higher wages and other better perks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 Had a bit to reflect on it. Hope he's shit for them. Don't begrudge him going but I won't wish him all the best. Might get a polite clap from me if he plays against us. £10m though is absolutely outstanding business. We've very much had their pants down if he goes for 10 million quid, a player who's completely untested at that level, with 1 season as a striker, with a year left on his contract? £10m is great for the club. But only if it's reinvested wisely. Gonna withhold any criticisms now until I see the replacement that we're bringing in for the lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 5 hours ago, Kodjias Wrist said: Is it just me who aint that bothered if he goes Cardiff?? Nope me neither. Bloke has one good season refuses to extend his contract and Colin offers 10m. What are you going to do if youre City. No brainier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicolin Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 18 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Nope me neither. Bloke has one good season refuses to extend his contract and Colin offers 10m. What are you going to do if youre City. No brainier Good business that for us . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 Fair play to the lad and good luck where ever he ends up. Can't hold him back and loyalty in football died a long time ago. Can't get too angry about him going to a rival either... [cough] Taylor [cough]. If we're going to dish it out to other clubs, we've got to take it sometimes as well. Now hopefully we can spend some of the money on a replacement, or who knows, perhaps Johnson will work his magic again and move a player in to a new position which transforms them in to a Bobby Mark 2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 So, has he gone? Or should this be in the other place.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted June 27, 2018 Report Share Posted June 27, 2018 dont mind flinty or Bobby going but...............Pulis then Cardiff, my old man will be turning in his urn, god knows what me ole grand-dad will be doing, FFS lets do something positive this next season....................like PROMOTION Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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