numbeast Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 With a large portion of the forum leaning towards a management change I am interested to know what we should look for in a manager/head coach. Do we need a wealth of experience at this level or the fresh thinking of a young manager? Should the new man be a wheeler dealer or one committed to bringing through youth players List the attributes you think needed and maybe add a name that we could, realistically approach. Looking forward þo reading your views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fordy62 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 There aren’t many who perform everywhere they go. Much less people who would come here. Sometimes a manager and a club need to be ‘a good fit’. Most of the time that’s luck, but LJ isn’t the right fit. He’s just complete shite at the moment. So genuinely, I’d take nearly anyone. If you want me to choose, I’d take Nigel Clough. On the cheaper side. Has punched well above his station on a massively limited budget (which by the way we don’t have). I think he’d be worth a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numbeast Posted December 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Clough isn't a bad shout. What I really want to know is what ethos do we want from a new manager and what type of personality. We've had the thinking type with SOD, the cheeky chappy with Cots and the young progressive type in LJ. I genuinely hope Johnson can turn things around and I'm not screaming for his head. I do, however, realise things need to improve. Football is about 2 things to most fans, winning and entertaining but at the moment we are struggling to do either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 This type of thread are soooo dreary.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 30 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: There aren’t many who perform everywhere they go. Much less people who would come here. Sometimes a manager and a club need to be ‘a good fit’. Most of the time that’s luck, but LJ isn’t the right fit. He’s just complete shite at the moment. So genuinely, I’d take nearly anyone. If you want me to choose, I’d take Nigel Clough. On the cheaper side. Has punched well above his station on a massively limited budget (which by the way we don’t have). I think he’d be worth a shot. Kenny Jackett is pretty consistent (Rotherham being the only, if short-lived, blip). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moulin Rougier Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Good question. What that will divide opinion! I'd rather we were successful with who we've got (sacking and hiring is an expensive business!!) but as a starter for 10 I'd go for: Someone that is used to working with, improving and motivating young footballers (given our sign em young philosophy and the current make up of our squad). Someone that is used to working with players they are given, rather than ones they've chosen (whoever came in would have to work with what we've got, likely to be limited funds in Jan). Someone that wants to get the ball down and play. Tough when you haven't got the best of the best but doable if the manager/coaching is good enough. Can speak English well (anticipating a foreign appointment). Has decent footballing contacts. I don't mean a Harry Redknapp wheeler dealer, I mean a more David Wagner esq contacts - someone who has worked at a lower/youth level and knows who the good players are at that level, knows the ones that could step up. Wouldn't be adverse to a foreign manager, linked to the above point Wagner took a couple of lower league German players to Huddersfield in this mould. On a lightly related note, we've heard in the past the club has a list of X names to fit each position that we target in preference order and that we do Due Diligence on these players. Do you think the Board do this for managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Whatever attributes OTIB thinks a manager should have and whatever alternative manager OTIB says we need, there is a very good chance that OTIB will decide that they are the wrong ones the minute we subsequently go on a bad run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numbeast Posted December 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 30 minutes ago, Robbored said: This type of thread are soooo dreary.............. Such an enlightening view point, I so look forward to your sagasious comments. I was aiming this question to those of us who are less informed and are obviously of considerably lower intellect than your good self. If you wish to PM me with a list of topics YOU wish to discuss I will try to find the time to oblige (but nothing about the gas and Wembley if you'd be so kind ) please dont feel it compulsory to add anything more to the topic you find so dreary as I'd hate to inconvenience you. Until next time Robbo live long and prosper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 33 minutes ago, Robbored said: This type of thread are soooo dreary.............. You dont have to open them, read them or comment on them, nobody is holding a gun to your head........although there maybe a few volunteers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 I want a Manager who calls out his younger players when they make mistakes but let’s his experienced pros get away with murder for 6 matches at a time...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 47 minutes ago, Robbored said: This type of thread are soooo dreary.............. Is your full stop button broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 I’d like someone who will simply get the best out of his players. Like Warnock, but not Warnock. Mick McCarthy would’ve been perfect. An old fashioned manager not a ‘forward thinking’ head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Just now, David Brent said: Is your full stop button broken? You don’t agree that this type of thread has a ‘not so well hidden’ hidden agenda aimed at LJ? Thats why they’re so dreary................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abraham Romanovich Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 On this very day of all days, remember that if history has taught us anything, people who are sacked without the consequences being fully thought through tend to be replaced by Mark Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Tactically astute- but not rotating/switching like mad. Able to blood youth. Decent football. Cohesive gameplans. No favourites. Reasonable record in the transfer market. Ability to get the best out of what they have- even if not the best squad or transition, ability to get the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 27 minutes ago, Robbored said: You don’t agree that this type of thread has a ‘not so well hidden’ hidden agenda aimed at LJ? Thats why they’re so dreary................. My agenda is very clear, get this chancer out, it might be happening sooner than we think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, glen humphries said: My agenda is very clear, get this chancer out, it might be happening sooner than we think. So you’re yet another one who doesn’t understand when SL has said that LJ is here long term........... Whinging about on here is about as much use as a chocolate teapot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Robbored said: So you’re yet another one who doesn’t understand when SL has said that LJ is here long term........... Whinging about on here is about as much use as a chocolate teapot. Fair play you’re an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, Robbored said: So you’re yet another one who doesn’t understand when SL has said that LJ is here long term........... Whinging about on here is about as much use as a chocolate teapot. Will see . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Fair play you’re an idiot. Dear oh dear.......................is that the best you can do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, Robbored said: So you’re yet another one who doesn’t understand when SL has said that LJ is here long term........... Whinging about on here is about as much use as a chocolate teapot. He said that about your mate, Gary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Just now, Robbored said: Dear oh dear.......................is that the best you can do? You’re a grown man aren’t you? Yet you take so much delight in trolling on here. It’s pretty pathetic if we’re being honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Robbored said: This type of thread are soooo dreary.............. Pot calling kettle black! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Just now, glen humphries said: He said that about your mate, Gary. Obviously wasn’t expecting Senior to get into a brawl with his own player then. The senior players refused to play for him after that so SL had no choice but to sack him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Robbored said: Obviously wasn’t expecting Senior to get into a brawl with his own player then. The senior players refused to play for him after that so SL had no choice but to sack him. That’s a great plan , we need to get the current team to do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: You’re a grown man aren’t you? Yet you take so much delight in trolling on here. It’s pretty pathetic if we’re being honest. Calling me ‘an idiot’ is about as amateur as you can get - straight out of the play ground and I’m assuming you’re a grown man as well? Maybe not....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, glen humphries said: That’s a great plan , we need to get the current team to do the same. Junior was there and would have witnessed the brawl and the consequences of it so I seriously doubt he’d make the same unprofessional error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Island Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 No ribbon red your wrong the manager is soooooooo dreary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Just now, Robbored said: Junior was there and would have witnessed the brawl and the consequences of it so I seriously doubt he’d make the same unprofessional error. He could add them to all the other errors he’s making, I’ll go for matty Taylor to stick one on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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